Dec 05, 2023, 11:27 am
(Dec 05, 2023, 04:44 am)dickhead Wrote: [ -> ]One post at a time....
Dr Norman Finkelstein in the video talks a general narative of this whole Israeli situation, but he is leaving some important things out. Which kinda makes a big difference in the big picture.
1) The video of Dr Finkelstein starts out that he is collage educated but never really found acceptance anywhere. So he must have harbored ideas that just blow most people minds. That is how it is with people that don't find acceptance in America. So he says he became interested when Israel "invaded" Lebanon. But he makes no mention of what started it. The PLO in Lebanon attacked Israel. Israel invaded and blew all that crap up. Then setup security to make them more secure.
2) So this guy explains that his whole life is 99% focused on the whole Israeli situation, and he fails to mention anything that "starts" events with Israel. Israel did this. Then the next thing was Israel did that. So this 99% focused guy seems to have missed some very important things. 2 guys get in a fight and are hauled to court. Guess what the first thing the judge says? "Ok, who started it?". Folks, the entire evolution of mankind revolves around that one single question. Laws are made when facts reveal who or what started what. You simply can't throw that question out.
3) So Israel invaded Lebanon. What's next. Israel "displayed" it's military prowess in 1967 and expanded it's territory. The nerve of those dastardly Israelis. So what started it? Finklestein doesn't say. Because it doesn't belong in his "narrative". Now that folks, is a very interesting word to use in this video. Narrative. It's probably the guy could not find steady work all his life. He cherry picks world events to build whatever narratives he "thinks" he likes best. The REAL world doesn't work too well with a product like that. Thus, Mr Finkelstein, your fired. As Trump would say.
4) So whats next? All of WW1, in his narrative, was simple one thing led to the next thing. Like oh well, we all have to wander to this other side now. Folks, cause and effect. That is academia that makes planes fly and rockets go to space. This guy couldn't give a rats ass about cause and effect. In his whole video. It's basically a run on sentence of pitiful pitiful Palestinians. And he really gets Vicious about Israelis. So WW1 is a war. It can't be ignored. The Ottomans joined up with Germany. The enemy of Great Britain. The Ottomans massed and waged war. Britain blew them away. Now the western powers have the sands of the Middle east to try to tame. And it was a mess Britain had it's hands full dealing with. Israel buddied up to Britain because they were smart. WW2 broke out and made things worse for Britain. They bailed when their UN doctrine expired and America kinda took over just enough to let Israel take over. Jews were already there way more built up than Arabs and needed a place for the holocaust survivors. And them being the land owners since all religious books started printing, Israel got their land back. But this Guy Finkelstein doesn't say any of that. Why is it that me sitting on my toilet, can put together the recorded history better than some "doctor" that spent 99% of his life on this stuff? Because he is an idiot that few people in his life would hire. Just because you went to collage doesn't mean you learned much. Keep that in mind, especially today. Collages today are being invaded by stupidity.
5) Zionism. I don't know jack squat about it. Lets see what this guy says. Zionism - Under no circumstances would Jews be accepted in a non European environment. Dang. Sounds like the Zions hit the nail on the head. According to Finkelstein, this was the definition before the Holocaust. And then all that insanity happened. Ok, so Finkelsteins understanding of Zions seems to square with history. And he says Zions believe survival depended on their own state away from persecution. Makes perfect sense now, and shows what geniuses Zions were back then. OMG. Star Trek. Zaons. Anybody remember that episode? Everybody dressing up Like Nazis and hunting Zaon pigs. It was all about NAZIs for sure, but also specifically Zions too. Just goes to show I never made any distinctions in Jews. They have always been quietly invisible in all my life. Until the next attack on Israel.
Anyways, like I wrote before, Jews buddied up with Britain and advanced themselves WAY faster than Arabs. So it was a no brainer to turn the land that Britain conquered over to the Jews to continue to civilize. America certainly agreed since they actually put all that in motion. That is what Finkelstein says in the video. So the difference between me and Finkelstein is that the results of war drove all this and Finkelstein says all this sort of "happened". And that is why I have a job I am super happy with and he moans that he never got the break he figured he deserved. Doesn't that sound like a libtard to anybody else? Hmmm. Anyways, Folks, war wins. Period. When you loose war, you do what your told or be killed. So it's war till somebody surrenders. And if anybody thinks Israel will surrender, then they gotta quit smoking that shit.
6) So what's next in the video? Gaza. Finkelstein says under international law, it is not a separate distinct "existence". I shit you not. The great and powerful Finkelstein said it himself in the video. But then something "magically" happened. Israel and the whole European union just decided to impose economic sanctions on Gaza. Geez. What a dastardly thing to do to Gaza. So now we come to that funny question again that is not mentioned in the Video. "Who started it?" Does anybody need 3 guesses? Mars Attacks, I mean Gaza Attacks. That was a great movie and it just popped into my head all the sudden. Aak Aak.
Anyways, Finkelstein glosses over ALL the causes of everything. And that teaches people nothing but a bias narrative. Israel was making peace agreements with Arabs to fix everything. Peres and PLO signed Oslo accords. Begin signed peace with Egypt. PLO declared end to terrorism. Israel and Jordan signed a peace treaty. Peace peace everywhere peace. Nothing about it in the video. But there are always lunatics on both sides that don't want peace. They want to grab everybody by the hair and drag them thru the razor wire. Egypts Saddat got assassinated. Palestinians started doing suicide bombing inside Israel. Israeli public fear went crazy. Israeli leaders lets killers into their neighborhoods. Yitzhak Rabin was assassinated. And then the hammers started to drop. Economic sanctions and embargoes to stop war supplies from going to Gaza. Israelis freaked out all over, wanted Palestinians they couldn't trust out. And, as Finkelstein put it, this period went from the 1990s and climaxing in 2006. You see folks, nothing in any mess just "happens". There is always the first shot. Even if it is not heard around the world.
There was only one solution to suicide bombers, and that is "ethnic cleansing". If Arabs didn't want that, then they should not have been kamakazis. Today there is more technology to stop "individual" suicide bombers. But Todays tech did not stop 5000 rockets on Oct 7. It is reported now that one rocket hit Israels Nuke base. Geez. So clearly today, Israel is not interested in any "blending" of Arabs with Israelis. Trust is destroyed for the rest of the decade at the least. Expect Palestinians to be walled off at the very least. And expect ZERO help from Israel. It will all be DUMPED into the UN lap. And Israels border will only get fatter for better security. That is not my wish, that is REALITY.
7) Finkelstein goes on and on about all the depravity of Gazans because of the economic sanctions to keep stuff out of the land of back stabbers. And it was the whole western world that was in on the sanctions. The BRICS nations obviously side with all things opposite of the Western nations. And now, it will only be worse for Palestine. 2 million people in a city that is now half rubble. But at least it aint just 1 million people. And if Israel wanted, the could could already have been 1 million people.
8) Oct7. Finkelstein calls it an event no different to American slavery. And all the atrocities that went on there. So none of this really moves him. That is one cold blooded wanker. Man was much more primitive in the slavery days. It was normal to kill anybody for whatever you wanted. Smart people started thinking that maybe humans needed to do better. So human rights laws were starting to be invented. And even the definician of who was a human being was being defined. Africans at the time were literaly considered animals because they were so different. And there was no law against animal cruelty. People eat animals. So the comparison is completely flawed. And another indication as to why Dr Finkelstein could not find the work he thought he deserved. Today murder is prison or death where as it was not murder in the slave days. War is hell, but even todays war has more laws than in the slave days. That is the evolution of man. And we demand better behavior of todays man than we did in the slave times.
9) Zeroing in on the phrase "command and control". I heard that phrase in this whole soup of a mess, come up time and again, but I always mentally weeded it out because it means nothing to me. Now I see what is going on with that. It's the divide and conquer routine. Find a fact that could be picked apart,and pound on it, till it collapses as a fact and then label everything about tunnels as Fake News. The day will then come when Tunnels in Gaza is Fake News. Thus leaving an unarmed city bombed by criminals. OK. So now I understand "command and control".
Folks, I don't play those games. And video game videos are not good enough yet to fool "officials" into believing tunnel footage is another country. Hah. Folks, Israel says there are 14,000 warriors in those tunnels. And they are all doing something. Some of the things they are doing is house cleaning. Hamas was surprised and over run at a hospital with tunnel access. Hamas was unable to complete total house cleaning before they left. So fighting supplies and gear were found all over the place. Israel posted pics and videos. So there's no doubt that the Gazan army is in and out of those hospitals in all kinds of capacity. There is even a video of them bringing in hostages. So that "capacity" is further proven to be "internationally illegal" capacity. It can't be denied. No matter what anybody says about "command and control". Those 3 words change nothing. There was tunnels under Shifa and no hostage was ever released by anybody from Shifa Hospital. So I think Shifa has been destroyed. As is legal by international law. Evidence show it to be a military target.
As for "command and control", the guy in the video seems to think this is a big problem for Israel conducting a legal war. But in reality it's so trivial, that I mostly didn't even see it till now. And now I just shake my head. You don't stop a war because you might not have found the command and control. You simply move on and keep on hunting for it. And it appears that Israel is on track to destroy the REAL command and control where ever it is. And the Gazan army in the tunnels is seriously worried about that. Because they are trapped like rats in a cage. They can come out, but they can't come out with all their stored weapons. Only what they can carry that is hidden. Because drones in the air are watching everybody. And anybody seen heavily armed in a crowd will be attacked and killed. Per rules of war.
10) The numbers. Yea this Finkelstein dude is pretty clearly and Israeli hater. There have always been different factions of Jews. He may be a member of a faction that hates other Jews. Anything is possible today. Most assassinations are done by hater parts of their own societies. Anyways, Finkelstein condemns the numbers that Israel has killed compared to how many Israelis were killed. But he fails to acknowledge several things. Nobody is sure of the count, the Gaza army alone is reported to be 14,000 strong, and that is 14,000 people Israel is gunning for. Legitimate war targets. So the numbers are still in line with the objective of legal war. Also, there is no condemnation of the numbers being influenced by human shield activity. Israel is the only warring nation to ever announce where their bombs will fall next. I don't think America ever did it. Yet Finkelstein pisses all over the whole Israeli show. So the great Doctor is again tied down with biases.
11) The buildings. Their destruction, says Dr Finkelstein is a "Hitech Mongrel Horror". Terrorism by Israel of more than 100 to 1 compared to actual terrorists. So the further the video goes that more seething of Israel this guy gets. The way he see it, Israel should have taken the motorcycles and guns from the Gazan soldiers and rode back in and simply used the leftover ammunition. Just to even things up. It's crystal clear why this "doctor" is a nobody that had to settle for what he got. Because if he actually ran something, it would likely crash and burn.
12) 2 state solution. Amazing a smidgeon of common sense. Finkelstein says there is "no point to indulging in such fantasies at this moment." "We shouldn't squander time" given the urgency of this moment. Yup, I can agree on that. It's laughable to expect Israel to open the gates to let any more Arabs in. We have to survive the possible coming of an AI attack before there is any hope of 2 state talks.
13) Finkelstein say free the Israeli 200 and free the Gazan 2 million. I suspect Gazas 2 million will be free to stay out of Israel as soon as all the tunnels are collapsed. It is such a destroyed mess that it is more dangerous for Israel to stay than to just leave. Then Israel can put their army to work tripling the size of that wall. Now given that, if Israel actually helped feed the people after the bombing is over, well, I will just have to look and watch in amazement. I have no clue how that part will go. But if my family members were killed on Oct 7. I could not expect the grieving Israelis to help in any way.
14) Phrase "Cut Off Babies Heads". I see now that that is a game too. Just like "command And Control". Discredit babies heads cut off, then disqualify all those Israelis killed on Oct 7. I also saw claims that Israeli army shot their own people on Oct 7. So it's an old trick to change history day by day. Even President Bidens people do it. Biden doesn't talk to his son, Biden knows nothing about his son, Biden didn't do business with his son, Biden didn't get paid by his son, Biden got paid by his son. Nope, Biden got paid by China. And Biden can't hide all the evidence.
And that's the way it is here. The entire libtard media is hiding the pictures of Oct7. But they are not totally gone. And there are lots more the family "might" publish later. But it is what it is, and the burnt babies I posted had their heads chopped in half like from a Machete knife. So no doubt monsters like that probably left lots more babies heads rolling on the floor. So I aint dumb enough to play that game. Israel was invaded by monsters. And War will secure justice.
15) Finkelstein may as well be a Gazan. Everything Israel is doing is "systematically" illegal according to him. Systematically targeting hospitals and ambulances and schools and such. Finkelstein has completely thrown out all the evidence gathered by everybody around the world. That's why this guy can't get any work that he thinks he deserves. His educated mind does not live in reality. He is buried in this fantasy make believe world in his head. If he was the top expert in all things Israel and he was right, then the whole world would see it too and Israel would have been like Germany. But none of that happened because this guy is an idiot.
16) That's it. I have had with this guy. He is really sick in the head. His head is so full of poison for not being accepted in the academic world that rejected him. Calling all those murdered people on Oct 7th "fair game". This fucker is a total nut job. His brain is not rooted in civilization. His idea is to stay forever locked in the notion of eye for an eye. What a moron. If you can't get the other guy to stop fighting, you take both his eyes. Then he can't see to fight any more. And that's less punishment than babies with their heads cut off...
17) Some argue that killing Hamas will only make a replacement step up. Not if they are too scared to step up. A war that is won is a war where the enemy is left too scared to make war again. And I hope for the worlds sake that Israel accomplishes it's war goal. Beat them down and get this mess behind us. Maybe then the Ukraine war will solve itself.
