Aug 15, 2023, 09:49 am
(Aug 15, 2023, 06:10 am)terazg7 Wrote: [ -> ](Feb 26, 2022, 01:47 am)Resurgence Wrote: [ -> ](Feb 25, 2022, 23:51 pm)stts2 Wrote: [ -> ]Yup. Who would have thunk. Russian propaganda being spread all over the world. But here too???? Dang. Opinions are one thing. But carpet bombing threads in a place like this is just comical to say the least. Theres no way all that trash is going to get me to stop torrenting. Because thats all Im going to do when I come here. Can you imagine finding somebody that will say he came here to find a link and left to go jihad with the Russians. Hah.
There is nothing laughable about the current Russian-Ukrainian situation and there is nothing laughable about censorship.
Many of the points provided here on the Russian-Ukrainian situation are not covered by the "mainstream" Western establishment news sources. That is a question that should concern you if you uphold the idea of free access to information and you are against censorship.
The worst from the "mainstream" Western establishment news sources isn't just the omissions, the spin, or the fabrications, but also the biases (always anti-Russian, always Pro-Israeli). The most poisonous bias of all is that they expect you to believe that everything that comes from them is the gospel truth and that any information beyond their sphere of influence is questionable, "fake news" or propaganda. Of course, the US, UK, and others never release fabrications or propaganda - no, never - their hands are clean of that dirty business.
Western establishment news sources are not the arbiter of truth.
If you spent less time on your "torrents" and more time focused on the people spoon-feeding you information and shaping your perceptions, perhaps these revelations might dawn on you.
I really appreciate your well elaborated reply to that senseless post and I do agree with all your viewpoints. Unfortunately, American society and media are disastrous. The ongoing news manipulation, deceiving, and brain-washing is massive and aim to steadily assault to less educated masses... It's rather helpless here. Something major will have to happen soon.
To be fair about this, my post was over a year ago. And the world was different. Very different. Russia was a war juggernaut and Ukraine a whimpering wimp. America , for it's part, was a beacon of hope and a symbol of Justice, even though we had our share of cracks. But I was always afraid that if this war thing wasn't put to an end in short order, that the poison that it oozed was going to spread a very dangerous infection. And that is exactly what's been going on. The war is now like a simmering world war, but hardly nobody cares any more. The rest of the world is coming unglued. The war has drained the economics out of the free world and it's going crazy. Starting to feed on itself. And it'a all happening terribly fast.
Hawaii burned and we got smoke and we got pictures. It's terrible. But you can't tell the true horrors till you read the survivor stories. The whole town burned down in less than an hour. Running people didn't get to their cars before they erupted in flames. People that tripped caught fire and were incinerated. Those that didn't trip were amazed because they swore they couldn't see anything in front of them. Another woman handed off her baby to a running woman just seconds before the mothers car exploded in flames. Countless others running thru smoke as fast as they could. With only the memory of their neighborhood in their heads to guide them to the sea. Survivors returning in the aftermath, were walking thru the ashes of the dead, and didn't even realize it. So officials had to keep everybody out till they could recover what is left of all the missing. Everything there, was laid to waste so fast that the pictures simply dwarf the story.
And that's whats happening in America. The poison from that war is starting to shatter everything. And if we can't Put an end to this craziness, then the civil war is likely to destroy in just a couple of years, all of the 250 years before it. People are saying that we are heading for a Constitutional crisis. But people been saying that forever. But we have finally come to that crossroads that I didn't dare think about a year ago. We shouldn't be here. We are supposed to be better than this. But here we are anyway. And if we keep going, we are bound to reach the point of no return. And I can't see that as a good thing for anybody anywhere.
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Anyways, may as well dive into these latest charges. More shit, with no solution in sight. I'm no lawyer but I can still read the English in the latest charges and apply abit of common sense. And they are flawed. There is no doubt about it. But they are still going to trigger a really crazy mess. Just like what all the other charges are doing. As they grind thru our legal system, they will be grinding all of us down, till they smack into a genuine Constitutional crossing guard, that will flush the charges down the commode.
But till then, things are likely to get really crazy. It's going to look like American justice is failing. And that will spark a rise in crime. Already we got organized robbery mobs attacking on video TV. California economy is especially crippled by policy and is seeing craziness not seen before. Officials staying home for safety, record numbers of citizens fleeing for greener pastures, etc, etc. And gang violence will be amping up everywhere, with the "new" money grabbing opportunities. This is expected behavior when things don't seem fair and law and order appears to be breaking down. So the craziness with Trump will surely be corrosive for as long as it goes on.
So we got another clock that is counting down. The race to find a "fair" resolution before our society explodes. Yup, it's serious business that's going on. Not just TV soap opera. It's pretty much a joke, but Comey said what our justice was "supposed" to be when he explained why he did not charge Hillary Clinton. He said "No reasonable Prosecutor would charge her for emails" despite having Top Secret emails on her home computer. That "was" the standard for everybody. Determining a "reasonable" line of action. Unfortunately, there is no definition of "reasonable", and the Democraps have decided to move that bar anywhere they wanted. At any time they wanted. So Clintons "innocent" documents are at the same time Trumps "guilty" documents. Tearing down the idea of reasonable and fairness, as we used to know it. And the results are what we got now. A rise in lawlessness from people feeling free to make their own justice.
So with these latest charges, as with all the other charges, Trump will face a jury of his "peers" where 75% of them hate him for President. So his hopeless odds in DC have improved to poor odds in Georgia. It can be "reasonably" assumed that those who voted against Trump in the last election would likely vote for conviction at trial, to hope he looses the next election. I and most anybody else could reasonably assume that. So I don't even know why we call them his peers. But with the new definitions of "reasonable" sweeping the country, a ham sandwich can be indicted in todays society. And our legal education system has utterly failed to weed out partisan hate from the technical facts of court cases. Hundreds of years of racism in the courts is a sad reminder of that. The only fact keeping American justice glued together is that it only takes one innocent verdict to shut down a case forever. No matter how many guilty verdicts are rendered. And so far, nobody has succeeded in screwing that up. So Trump has a fighting chance, even with odds with terribly poor numbers. He may be convicted in all the court trials. But he has rights of appeal. That may also be too close, resulting in continued conviction. But he also has rights to the Supreme Court. If he is convicted there as well, he could have a shot at a fourth review by the SCOTUS, if he can show that the lower courts violated his Constitutional rights in some way. Like his free speech rights. There's lots of questions there. So if Trump can find just one person in all that complicated chain of justice to agree with him, then Trump wins his case. It's unknown if the country can wait for all that to happen. Because this whole mess is really not about Trump. It's about the direction of the whole nation. And it's anybodies guess how the country will react no matter what verdict is ultimately decided. But the tensions will certainly build as long as there is no decision. People everywhere in America are angry and frustrated and are demanding answers and change. And the public patience is running out.
As for these charges, they are just weak in various ways. 19 people all charged with RICO. If any one of them can get off, then one of the courts will throw them all out. Poof. Lots of lawyers being charged. All Trump defense lawyers. It's very weak to say half a dozen lawyers gave Trump legal advice "illegally". One of the courts is likely to throw them all out. Then Trump charges related to those lawyers will also be thrown out. Trump team was invited to examine voting machines and lawyers approved it. One of the courts is bound to throw all those related charges out. How can there be intent of wrong doing when people in charge freely invite you and your learned lawyers in? At worst the lawyers could be sanctioned for giving bad advice. But that's not a crime. Just civil grounds to sue for malpractice damages. There are other charges of impersonating and fraud, and stuff like that, but no color about specifically what they are talking about. So I can speculate those charges are being Gumby stretched just as much as all the other charges that are not likely to survive. Racketeering charges for complaining that voting officials were not doing their jobs. Again, trying to pull the legs off a rubber Gumby toy. Civil slander charges is really the more likely recourse. Free speech and rights to complain like Stacey Abrams are going to be grounds to be tossing more of this stuff in one of the courts. And that's the latest charges. The biggest indicator is that again, real lawyers all over are on both sides of these arguments. Clearing the way for tons of reasonable doubt, if nothing else. There just has not been a unanimouse lawyer opinion on anything charged so far.
All this craziness in no way means Trump won't be unanimously convicted of everything, with all the dangerous news headlines to follow. But it is a good indication that there is a credible path for Trump to beat lots of this, if not everything. And we all have to hope our society doesn't explode before we get the final words.
And in the mean time, all the worlds tyrants are full steam ahead. Russia has been using it's hitech missiles in Ukraine to work out the bugs. Now they announce they are arming their subs with their newest hypersonic missiles. And what are we doing? A whole lotta jack squat. We are nearly out of ammunition...
Russia to Arm Nuclear Submarines with 'Unmatched' Hypersonic Missiles
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-nuclear-...ss-1819536
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Here you go, a Democrap lawyer that will never vote for Trump ever. But legally he says Trump is sitting on the high ground. He says this DA woman is totally incompetent and that judge should have already shut her down. But it didn't happen, and that's because it's a 75% Trump hater court. Judges don't have to shut anything down. They only do it to stop the wasting of the courts time to move to more important cases. But to Democraps, there seems to be nothing more important than getting Trump. Hence all the crazy crime in the streets. Anyways, 19 RICO defendants side by side is a tough thing to make work. One slip and they all go home. On top of that, they all got to have legal teams by their sides. All in the same room. It's a recipe for a circus. Half of them coughing and the other half sneezing. Each with their own objection for every sound made in the court. Then just getting to the first trial day. They all have rights to a fair trial. So they all have to file their particular motions to stall the case. It's their right to stall as much as they need to put their defense together in a Constitutional way. And if health problems get in the way, then they all have to wait. Or if counsel is stuck in another court, same stalling issues. So this lawyer says a trial like this will take many many years to finally be ready.
So what's the point? The DA says she wants this started within 6 months. So it's clear she wants a verdict before the election. And she may not care if she looses on appeal. It would seem she wants to simply upset the Trump election as her main goal. That is what other media mouthpieces think as well. So if that is her goal, she has already ruined it. Trump has rights and he will motion to get all the information from all the other 18 people with him to study for years to make a defense. As will everybody else. And that court is going to be utterly bogged down in a massive work load keeping up with all the motions to come. So this case is over without even getting to any other charge.
Notice how Smith has been charging only Trump? That is because Smith is much smarter. He too wants to get to trial quickly. And he will do it by keeping things much simpler. And making multiple filings in multiple courts. So his court demands are spread out. He will certainly have different teams for different courts, he can hire as many people as he wants. Courts, however, can only deal with the people that they have. So Smith is Trumps biggest threat. All the others are just a waste of Trumps money. Which is no small thing, so it seems. They say he's already spent over $40 million on defense. Only Trump can battle a money monster like that.
So Smith is trying to get a guilty verdict before the election from a Trump hater jury. Then he will try to get imprisonment ASAP. Arguing that Trump is a danger to our democracy and disqualified from the election. Then it's more legal arguments to debunk that. If the Trump hater judge throws him in jail, then it's an emergency appeals process to get him out. That may work because Trump has the right to bail. But the bail may demand all his Billions in cash assets. Nobody can get Billions quickly. That would easily keep Trump in jail for a month or more. With the campains of everybody else full steam ahead. It's election interference. And Smith will likely play it for all it's worth with his own stalling motions. So Trump has to stay out of prison or he may never get out till the election is over. Even the Supreme Court would be powerless until the appeals court finally makes a ruling. And it is a Trump hater appeals court in DC. Hard to say how the Florida case tangles in here. It all depends if the judge gets replaced. This one seems to be willing to stall all this till after the election. Not initially, but already a 2024 trial date with plenty of motions that Trump can file. It's also a more favorable jury. Maybe even a slam dunk for Trump to get it out of the way. But I think even Smith will stall the Florida Trial. He wants a guilty verdict ASAP. And that will best happen in DC. New York trials are just more hassle on Trump that will likely get stalled. Hard to say if Smith goes for New Jersey charges. Trying to prove that waving a document on an audio tape is evidence enough. It's really weak. And Insurrection charges in DC is looking weak too. Pence has already said in multiple ways that "he's not sure". And he's the most inside guy Smiths got that's willing to squeal. But he can't just can't take that back. So it would bog down the DC court more for those flimsy charges. So I suspect we are seeing all that we will see. Which is already infamously historic.
So how do I know about stuff like this? I been in several lawsuits, and am in one now. Doing all the stalling and motioning to buy me the time I need to kick their butts. You always stall as much as you can. It give you extra time to make sure all gets done, but it also buys time to catch the other side in a big screwup. Like when the Georgia DA accidentally posted the charges before the grand jury even voted on them. Trump has a big win on that one, and he didn't even do anything. Kinda shows that he was already charged before the Grand Jury charged him. Proof that the Georgia system is rigged. Yup, that alone may get all this thrown out somewhere in appeals.
Oh, and here's the lawyer video.
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Here's another fly in this ointment. There's duplicate charges here from other peoples indictments. That gets into double jeopardy. People can't be tried twice for the same crime. So somebody may be ordered to cancel their charges. The Feds already charged first. And the Feds are likely to get to trial first. So Georgia may have to start dumping charges. Hah. Then somebody has to decide if RICO can still work when charges are canceled. And there is 19 people here. Trump is the guy whose charges will be canceled. So if there is no more kingpin, then there's no more RICO for anybody else. Otherwise it's conspiracy to commit a crime for... a person no longer charged. How's that going to work? I think Meadows only has RICO. So he would be cut loose entirely. Oops, a big fish that got away. And as charges drop away, other charges become non charges. So this whole thing is like a coiled spring that is ready to break as soon as it is touched. That lawyer video is right. There is just so much incompetence here that the people are going to freak when they find out what the tax bill is for this debacle.
Media as expected is going nuts over this, saying Trump looses pardon options on this and smack. But this whole thing is a twisty octopus. Meadows has already filed to have his case moved to Federal court. Because all this took place when he was in office. Trump will be the same way. Then Pardon options are back on the table. If denied, then the whole appeals mechanism kicks into gear. Georgia prosecutors may as well be dragging the Titanic by it's anchor along the bottom, the whole way thru this entire prosecution. And the Federal prosecutor may look at all this and simply drop it in the trash. For the incompetence that it is.
Here you go, the icing on the cake. Bill O Reilly is thinkin the same thing I am thinking. The Georgia charges are a big bother, but destined to be flushed. That woman DA is incompetent. And only being held up by the libtard machinery in her city. Not even the rest of Georgia is on her side. She and her Georgia court house stands alone to try to hijack the next presidential election. And the Supreme Court will be obligated to come down on her like a ton of bricks. Then she will boo hoo and whine on national TV, just like Stacey Abrams has been doing for years. It has to be that way. She has to be ruined in the legal world because she has gone totally rouge. And her actions, not Trumps, are the real threat to this entire country. If she is left to succeed, then all elections in this country will be settled by who can imprison the most candidates. Then we will be like Russia with prisons full of Nivalneys. Smith, the idiots in New York, and all their posse will also have to face the music. There are severe consequences for legal malpractice and abuse of power. And their day of reckoning is coming down the pike.
Oh this is such an excellent video. People all over the country are insanely furious that Trump won't admit that he lost the election. And because of what he says, no charge about the election will ever stick to him. No matter how much Hillary Clinton laughs on the Maddow show. She got away with illegal activity, with the help of all her friends. Trump is simply not a criminal. And all temporary illegal convictions are destined to be flushed by the Supreme Court. So Trump has the tools to fix this country. If we stop selling our votes to the highest bidder. I got my fingers crossed, there is still hope.
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Another Special Prosecutor being appointed. This time in Georgia. Seems this woman DA Willis tried to also indict the Lieutenant Governor for helping Trump. But a Judge stepped in and threw that charge out. Seems Willis was a fund raiser for the Lieutenant Governors Democrapic opponent. And the Democrap got beat. So she went and tried to charge him with these Trump crimes. That is just so messed up. A violation of legal rules and ethics and everything. But I guess maybe not illegal. Just goes to show how seriously messed up those Democraps are. Inventing fake Russia collusion crap, then charging Trump with complaining about the stolen election. That was stolen. All because they can't charge Trump with admitting the election was legit. Hah. So now a Special Prosecutor is named to go after the Lieutenant Governor. This Georgia mess is turning out to be the Keystone Cops variety bad TV hour. And it will certainly be angering the 6 Supreme Court justices that have to be sitting in silent outrage, over the bastardization of the law profession, that they been so proud to be a part of. You have to know that the day is coming when the Supreme Court historically unloads on the corruption of American laws and fairness. And the libtard media will be unable to hide it, as the law bar will be tasked to root out the legal rotten apples. As ordered by the Supreme Court. They can at least do the smack down on their own. But we all have to wait an eternity till it lands on their bench. Or they could step into the middle of the election, if things really get insane. Like they did in Florida.
Special prosecutor will examine actions of Georgia's lieutenant governor in Trump election meddling
https://www.yahoo.com/news/special-prose...16809.html