You do not die or get addicted to ANY drug if you do not abuse it.
#41
Of course you can die, i took a bit of amphetamine and my throat got real tight. I took a bit of cocaine and it felt like i couldn't breathe.

So yes drugs are dangerous regardless of how much you take.
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#42
Seems like allergy symptoms, those drugs are usually heavily contaminated with some random stuff.
I've used amphetamine couple times in my past and never had such symptoms.

Or the dealer sold you fake drugs, happens.

So in summary:

If all drugs are legalized and their quality certified plus you are perfectly healthy, with no allergies and strong will - you could take any drug in appropriate dosage and not die or get addicted.
Or:
Any drug in any dosage can kill you / get you addicted.
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#43
I agree with regulation, definitely.
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#44
Regulation would bring many benefits but how to avoid people abusing or getting addicted? Don't think it would work.
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#45
If I'm not wrong Portugal legalized all drugs and with the money they wasted to fight it, they now use it to help people who are addicted.
They even drive car on known addicts places and give free needles for heroin addicts so they don't use same needle and get infected.

If I've heard good, statistics are saying there are less hardcore junkies / less deaths due to overdose but my memory is fucked up(damn drugs) a little so may be wrong on this.
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#46
(Mar 26, 2018, 12:46 pm)dueda Wrote: Regulation would bring many benefits but how to avoid people abusing or getting addicted? Don't think it would work.

I believe it may cut down the chances of death. In the instance I used before, If drugs were regulated and made in clean facilities, it wouldn't be laced with all the unknown dangers that can kill you. Alcohol here is legal, but there are still many deaths... Food and cigarettes are real as well, People still can die from abuse of those things too. Cigarettes are legal, but people have a hard time quitting not so much for the nicotine, but all the other BS they add to it to get you hooked and keep you coming... I've read nicotine in moderation can act like a nootropic...


(Mar 26, 2018, 13:16 pm)Mr.Masami Wrote: If I'm not wrong Portugal legalized all drugs and with the money they wasted to fight it, they now use it to help people who are addicted.
They even drive car on known addicts places and give free needles for heroin addicts so they don't use same needle and get infected.

If I've heard good, statistics are saying there are less hardcore junkies / less deaths due to overdose but my memory is fucked up(damn drugs) a little so may be wrong on this.

We have clean needle programs here in the US, but I'm not sure about govt sanctioned programs in regards to the driving you to rehabs/hospitals... I've seen where fellowships like AA/NA will do stuff like that, but they get no govt $$$.
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#47
(Mar 26, 2018, 12:40 pm)evenomx Wrote: I agree with regulation, definitely.

One time me and one of my friends got some extra spiced jane, don't know what the hell was it but couple minutes after we smoked my friend lost consciousness for like 15min then couldn't remember the whole day.
Me, I felt like my guts were about to flip 180 degrees, my head was spinning and a sound in my head was so loud I couldn't hear my own voice. It lasted only for about one minute.

The other time I was smoking Jane alone (one of my first tries) in my home, smoked one pipe - nothing, second - nothing, started to get angry at my dealer that he sold me some crap that does nothing
when I was in the middle of third pipe I felt the first wave, strong as hell, at this point I knew I was fucked up as I was feeling next waves coming at me, each stronger, I ended up throwing for like two hours, even light eye movement
was triggering violent vomiting, whole floor was in vomit, when it stopped I was all paper-white my friend who came for me couldn't believe how bad I was.

Don't know what was it.


Another reason why one time try may end up in death. Some drugs are activating after time, some may be with hidden "extras".
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#48
(Mar 26, 2018, 09:36 am)Mr.Masami Wrote: Seems like allergy symptoms, those drugs are usually heavily contaminated with some random stuff.
I've used amphetamine couple times in my past and never had such symptoms.

Or the dealer sold you fake drugs, happens.

So in summary:

If all drugs are legalized and their quality certified plus you are perfectly healthy, with no allergies and strong will - you could take any drug in appropriate dosage and not die or get addicted.
Or:
Any drug in any dosage can kill you / get you addicted.

(Mar 26, 2018, 13:36 pm)Mr.Masami Wrote:
(Mar 26, 2018, 12:40 pm)evenomx Wrote: I agree with regulation, definitely.

One time me and one of my friends got some extra spiced jane, don't know what the hell was it but couple minutes after we smoked my friend lost consciousness for like 15min then couldn't remember the whole day.
Me, I felt like my guts were about to flip 180 degrees, my head was spinning and a sound in my head was so loud I couldn't hear my own voice. It lasted only for about one minute.

The other time I was smoking Jane alone (one of my first tries) in my home, smoked one pipe - nothing, second - nothing, started to get angry at my dealer that he sold me some crap that does nothing
when I was in the middle of third pipe I felt the first wave, strong as hell,  at this point I knew I was fucked up as I was feeling next waves coming at me, each stronger, I ended up throwing for like two hours, even light eye movement
was triggering violent vomiting, whole floor was in vomit, when it stopped I was all paper-white my friend who came for me couldn't believe how bad I was.

Don't know what was it.


Another reason why one time try may end up in death. Some drugs are activating after time, some may be with hidden "extras".

What's " Jane ", marijuana ? Im in the UK and we have different slang over here
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#49
(Mar 26, 2018, 13:42 pm)venomx Wrote: What's " Jane ", marijuana ? Im in the UK and we have different slang over here

Yes, good old Mary Jane Wink
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(Mar 26, 2018, 13:45 pm)Mr.Masami Wrote:
(Mar 26, 2018, 13:42 pm)venomx Wrote: What's " Jane ", marijuana ? Im in the UK and we have different slang over here

Yes, good old Mary Jane Wink

Fair enough, organic is the way forward from what i know.
I used to love the stuff until it started messing with my head. The purity of drugs over here is awful compared to the USA
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