Have you ever got trouble with pirated content at border ?

[Moe]

Holy shit. That's the biggest load of crap I've heard in a long time.

You need to take some relaxation pills or something.

In the U.S., if you bring a laptop onto a plane, the only thing they do is that they ask you to turn it on, so they can see if it actually works or not and isn't some sort of bomb.

If it works, that's all they care about. If you think airports care about child porn or pirated movies, you are totally wrong.

If they had to check every person's comp for CP or pirated content, no plane would ever fly again, because there isn't enough time, and at least 50% of the people wouldn't be allowed to fly, due to pirated shows/movies. And 90% due to child porn

Just kidding about that last bit, but what you said is more than retarded.

The topic is crossing a border with pirated content.

It is quite true that when traveling domestically they won't (and legally can't) search the contents of a device.

But crossing the border is a whole different beast. The can search the contents, though they usually save that privilege for specific political targets they don't agree with.

[joew771]

Holy shit. That's the biggest load of crap I've heard in a long time.

You need to take some relaxation pills or something.

In the U.S., if you bring a laptop onto a plane, the only thing they do is that they ask you to turn it on, so they can see if it actually works or not and isn't some sort of bomb.

If it works, that's all they care about. If you think airports care about child porn or pirated movies, you are totally wrong.

If they had to check every person's comp for CP or pirated content, no plane would ever fly again, because there isn't enough time, and at least 50% of the people wouldn't be allowed to fly, due to pirated shows/movies. And 90% due to child porn

Just kidding about that last bit, but what you said is more than retarded.

The topic is crossing a border with pirated content.

It is quite true that when traveling domestically they won't (and legally can't) search the contents of a device.

But crossing the border is a whole different beast.  The can search the contents, though they usually save that privilege for specific political targets they don't agree with.

Exactly. Unless you are on some sort of terrorist list or something, they won't search your computer for anything, other that to turn it on to see if it works. Crossing a border or not. They simply can't physically do it. It would take days to search every single person's computer, even on one flight, much less thousands a day.

[RobertX]

I just remembered.

A certain former SuprBay visitor, which I will not divulge the name for privacy reasons, did tell me that customs seized his computer and found porn. He said it was humiliating because his father was there.

EDIT: But then again I crossed the border carrying computer parts, including a filled-up hard drive with pirated content, not a laptop, and nothing happened. I had to abandon the computer case.

[Aaron.Walkhouse]

Exactly. Unless you are on some sort of terrorist list or something, they won't search your computer for anything, other that to turn it on to see if it works. Crossing a border or not. They simply can't physically do it. It would take days to search every single person's computer, even on one flight, much less thousands a day.

They don't, but their watchlists [plural] cover hundreds of thousands of innocent people
marked for harassment because they are journalists, protesters, muslims, activists, or just
people who posted something on social media that any one of millions of government
employees didn't like. ‌ Not only that, you can be randomly selected at any time and any
border staff can select you if they feel suspicious about anything you did or didn't do.

In any case, no matter the reason, they don't have to tell you why or if a computer just
randomly tagged you for extra searches and interrogations. ‌ Since there's literally tens of
thousands of them at border crossings, train stations and airports they can and do flag
hundreds of thousands of people every day just because they can and are expected to.

As for computer/phone searches, that's also increasingly automated with equipment by
vendors like Cellebrite, which can literally suck everything from almost any phone in a few
seconds. ‌ For those guys, Win/Mac/Linux laptops are even easier and the ports they use
are often gigabit speeds and greater now. ‌ Manual searches are so nineties these days. ‌

[LZA]

HEh, My friends husband has his info "sucked from his phone". so The good guys are using the same software the badguys use to steal info...

[joew771]

Exactly. Unless you are on some sort of terrorist list or something, they won't search your computer for anything, other that to turn it on to see if it works. Crossing a border or not. They simply can't physically do it. It would take days to search every single person's computer, even on one flight, much less thousands a day.

They don't, but their watchlists [plural] cover hundreds of thousands of innocent people
marked for harassment because they are journalists, protesters, muslims, activists, or just
people who posted something on social media that any one of millions of government
employees didn't like. ‌ Not only that, you can be randomly selected at any time and any
border staff can select you if they feel suspicious about anything you did or didn't do.

In any case, no matter the reason, they don't have to tell you why or if a computer just
randomly tagged you for extra searches and interrogations. ‌ Since there's literally tens of
thousands of them at border crossings, train stations and airports they can and do flag
hundreds of thousands of people every day just because they can and are expected to.

Dude. I don't know what psychotic paranoid universe you live in, but I live in the real world, and none of that happens.

They don't 'flag' hundreds of thousands of people every day. That's absurd. I'll reiterate, if they had to search hundreds of thousands of computers every day, it would take them years to clear all of those that you claim they search every day.

Please live in actual reality instead of a paranoid one.

[Aaron.Walkhouse]

They can and do. ‌ Random selections have always been part of the process,
even before 9/11 and the huge watchlists since then. ‌ Just because you haven't
seen it doesn't mean all the other people who reported their own experiences are
suddenly lying in a vast conspiracy against the government. ‌ That's your paranoia. ‌ ‌

As for the searches: I told you already, they're automated. ‌ Put tens of thousands
of computers on tens of thousands of data vacuums handled by tens of thousands
of customs and TSA employees and it's just business as usual, though the delays and
people missing flights has become an issue this summer. ‌ They promised to work faster. ‌ ‌

[joew771]

They can and do. ‌ Random selections have always been part of the process,
even before 9/11 and the huge watchlists since then. ‌ Just because you haven't
seen it doesn't mean all the other people who reported their own experiences are
suddenly lying in a vast conspiracy against the government. ‌ That's your paranoia. ‌ ‌

As for the searches: I told you already, they're automated. ‌ Put tens of thousands
of computers on tens of thousands of data vacuums handled by tens of thousands
of customs and TSA employees and it's just business as usual, though the delays and
people missing flights has become an issue this summer. ‌ They promised to work faster. ‌ ‌

Ok. I'm not sure what you glue you are smoking, but you saying, 'Put tens of thousands
of computers on tens of thousands of data vacuums handled by tens of thousands
of customs and TSA employees and it's just business as usual' and I know you are a lunatic, because none of that happens.

Get a grip on reality please.


It's all simply not physically possible.

[Aaron.Walkhouse]

With enough people it is, like I said, business as usual.
No point in the ostrich impression. ‌ It's public knowledge. ‌ ‌

[RobertX]

joew, you don't "smoke" glue, you sniff it.

I guess many things, however unlikely, are probable.

I count myself lucky I'm not a lottery winner.