Does VIP mean you can get away with anything?

[spikemite]

Everything should be done to encourage the inclusion of torrents from other sites that are not listed here already.

As far as image links go, who the hell cares?
Does anyone ever really look at them?
If I see a video i am interested in I highlight the title and search IMDB for it. Most images listed are useless anyway.

Do people really bother with clickbait anymore?

[Sid]

I think that the title of this thread is a little misleading

It's very misleading. It should be "The Pirate Bay should respect and enforce the copyright of pirates"

Obviously that is nonsense but it is NikkiSix's key point.

I think that the thread creator has a point because some uploaders that see their work exploited by others may get discouraged to continue their uploads. (If this happens, the pirate community loses.)

You're both correct. But as you then point out: that loss is vastly outweighed by the gains accrued from extended sharing. Not to mention that profiteers (and legitimate non-commercial filesharers) cease operating all the time anyway, for all sorts of different reasons, and whenever they do they are simply and invariably replaced by younger like-minded souls. So little if anything is ever truly lost anyway.

---

Philosophy aside; even if we wholeheartedly agreed with the proposition it would be impossible to implement. Verifying the original ownership of every upload is beyond even YouTube's capability, with all of the tens of billions of dollars and tens of thousands of employees they have to call upon. Even by the most aggressive estimates, TPB operates on a comparative shoestring. i.e. we couldn't do it even if we wanted to.

[Moe]

Off topic posts removed.

Post on topic, or find a different thread.

[wickermann]

I'm new here but it seems like the discussion can benefit from one tiny distinction.

There is the MORAL judgment: people who pirate content shouldn't complain about bigger pirates pirating their pirate booty. ---DUH! That's obvious.

Moral beliefs vary from person to person, group to group. But there is also the FUNCTIONAL dimension: what makes this site work effectively and with good results for users. This is about the quality of the site. If you regulate against parasites, the less monopolized it gets by exactly the sources OP is complaining about, which results in better content in the long run.

Who cares about morality in the first place? Why can't this be a discussion about the quality of the site? Can TPB have such a discussion? Why be limited by the same MORAL dichotomies, EITHER total permission to steal OR total PROHIBITION, that it's fighting against? vs. a FUNCTIONAL attitude of just putting out a good amount and quality of content?

[Sid]

Discounting your loaded terminology (which is laughable coming from someone claiming to take the high ground), how can making uploading more difficult for uploaders and staff/reducing what may be uploaded/reducing the number of people allowed to upload possibly result in more uploading?

At the very least that is counter-intuitive.

If you want a discussion, explain how you think that would work.

[NikkiSix]

right so far iv been called a hypocrite by people here and the mods ignoring the fact that they are hypocrites to
we got Moe saying its even ok for people to upload viruses here and Sid repeating what Moe wrote

if its ok to upload viruses here why do mods delete them?
couldn't be because morals are involved and you dont want people getting infected could it?

then we got Sid saying 'It is not, never has been and never will be our aim to help people make money. Let alone our responsibility.'
yet failing to see that thats exactly what macintosh is doing but in a morally WRONG way
his a stupid indian kid that thinks the world has to pay him for doing nothing at all

you guys have double standards and dont give a flying fuck for the people and sites that help TPB make stuff available here

i repeat i never said people shouldn't index torrents to TPB from other sites i asked the mods to have compassion for the other sites and do the right thing just as they do for TPB
you guy are the mods your like the second set of balls to the owners of TPB it wouldn't take you guys much effort to contact uploaders and say
if your gonna index from other sites at least be decent about it and dont use your own image host to profit off them

back to what Sid said 'It is not, never has been and never will be our aim to help people make money. Let alone our responsibility.'
but TPB make money and profit everyday with add revenue is anyone complaining about that?
or is it only ok for TPB to make money to support the site and keep it running?

so all we get from mods are the same silly responses trying to avoid the issue by saying stupid things like
you might as well ask us to remove DMCA torrents,
the topic names is misleading,
It is not, never has been and never will be our aim to help people make money

all these sound to anyone with a brain is that you guys are trying to confuse people into what the threads really about and throw around your ego's

whats happened to you guys?
is their some knid of secret hypnosis that takes place when you become TPB mods?
because its like the hypno doctor programmed the mods into dumb and repeating the same irrelevant bs and mumbo jumbo

TPB obviously has morals becoming a mod here shouldn't stop you from having morals for others

i bet that if you guys were to call people like the XXX uploaders and ask them do you think it's ok for some random people to take your meta data and use their own image host and profit off you they would say
NO WAY why should they make money off our bandwidth which we pay for
but they probably wont reply because they fear the mods wont like their responses

grow set set guys macintosh is doing something morally wrong which is no different to when TPB mods use their morals when deleting fake torrents

and here come more dumb replies from mods saying
but macintosh isn't uploading fakes to over look what this thread is really about

[Sid]

we got Moe saying its even ok for people to upload viruses here and Sid repeating what Moe wrote

So not only is it unacceptable for us to disagree with you but it is also unacceptable for us to agree with each other?

Nonsense.

then we got Sid saying 'It is not, never has been and never will be our aim to help people make money. Let alone our responsibility.'
yet failing to see that thats exactly what macintosh is doing but in a morally WRONG way

Nonsense.

It is no more our responsibility to stop people making money than it is to help people make money.

his a stupid indian kid

So racism is acceptable?

Nonsense.

back to what Sid said 'It is not, never has been and never will be our aim to help people make money. Let alone our responsibility.'
but TPB make money and profit everyday with add revenue is anyone complaining about that?
or is it only ok for TPB to make money to support the site and keep it running?

Nonsense

It is OK for anyone to make money.

You are the one saying that some people should be allowed to make money and some people should not.

all that sounds to anyone with a brain is that you guys are trying to confuse people into what the threads really about and throw around your ego's

Nonsense.

You created the thread. It is about what you are saying, which is at odds with the title. That's on you.



tl; dir = NikkiSix is talking nothing but nonsense

He is silly

a racist

obsessed

and boring and repetitive and boring and repetitive and boring and repetitive.

I think I can safely say we have all had enough.

/closed

[Moe]

if its ok to upload viruses here why do mods delete them?

Because they aren't clearly labeled. Go ahead an upload a virus with a title "This is a virus. If you download it you'll infect your computer." It won't be deleted, and you'll even get a few people downloading it because some people download anything.

No Sid i said over and over that if people like machintosh want to make money they should do that with their own resources if not they should at least be decent about it and do the right thing

Yes, you have said that over and over. We just don't agree with you, but you still beat that drum while ignoring everything anyone else is saying.