Does VIP mean you can get away with anything?

[LZA]

Plus, I was taught that before I download, to check the comments...

I had a bunch more games on my desktop... None had issues... First thing I would do if I got a virus would be to make a comment about it letting others know... Maybe someone would tell me I was doing it wrong, but with everything communication is the key.

[Moe]

Why keep paying for a server if I'm not making any profit.

I'd say you are doing it wrong.

If making a profit is an essential part of your uploading, then it is time to find a new hobby.

[NikkiSix]

Why keep paying for a server if I'm not making any profit.

I'd say you are doing it wrong.

If making a profit is an essential part of your uploading, then it is time to find a new hobby.

look at the recent torrents at TPB ill try and spell this right before the spell check police comes in and says something silly
'theirs' a few key player in the torrent world from what i see at TPB which are TvTeam which use linking to their own site which help them get members which helps them fund their site then you got the ettv guys which use image hosting to fund servers then no1cares which does the same thing

so based off your comment do you really think if the above did all this as a hobby they would be able to keep funding servers which keeps giving to TPB?
i doubt this very mush its no different to TPB relaying on adds and donations to keep it running take those both away TPB dies
take that away from the uploaders,bots that reply on means of funding from ppv,images host those uploader,sites die

so when people like makintosh take meta data from other sites add them to TPB and use thier own ppv host to make money off torrent files they didnt create who do you think its hurting?
i think you know the answer to that it's the sites his taking the torrent meta data from and profiting off then for their own personal use
so in essence what your saying its ok for VIP's to do this as long as it doesn't hurt TPB which i think is unfair because you need to think of the sites that provide to TPB in the first place
if they all start dying then what will TPB have random music,ebook uploaders?

if uploaders like makintosh are having a hard life or whatever then they should put time and effort in creating and seeding their own torrents which then would be fair for them to use their own ppv host
not taking torrent meta data indexing them to TPB using their own ppv host making money off other uploaders ,sites which have bills to pay to

Moe i get TPB moto but you guys need to think of the bigger picture to because the TPB moto helps aid the death of sites and uploaders that keep giving 
the world isn't free and sharing people that keep giving to TPB need their maximum funding for making torrents available
if the site that make these all possible die then TPB wont survive either whos gonna visit a site that cant provide their favourite content?

lets have a bet Moe 
how about you ask people like makintosh something like fine index from other torrent sites but dont use your own ppv host to make money off them
ill bet you'll see an increase drop in what they upload

[politux]

Let's have a bet, your "suggestion" will never be implemented.

[NikkiSix]

Let's have a bet, your "suggestion" will never be implemented.

Moe's a grown man he doesn't need your keyboard to type for him try not so hard to burry yourself in his ass the guys probably so sick of you his plastered his entrances with duck tape

it's people like you that helps sites fail because you have 1 track minds
here's one for you how about you do what all the other guys do which is provide all that content with your own bandwidth with your sharing is caring moto would love to see how long you last
can we bet that? or would your rather Moe reply for you

[Moe]

Once again, you miss the point. I'm not going to tell anyone anything, except for people who continue to complain about others taking something that was never theirs in the first place. To them I say STFU.

Your cries sound just like the ones we hear from the content creators demanding we do something about their stuff being shared at all. The fact you can't see the hypocrisy is laughable. You really should be working for some copyright organization because your arguments are identical to theirs.

Why do you rush to demonize someone who "steals" meta-data, when you have no problem sharing the content the meta-data was generated from? You have yet to answer for that. Either it is all OK, or none of it is. If you can't stand someone else taking what you made and sharing it without your permission, maybe you should start sending out DMCA notices too.

Whether they are content creators or meta-data creators, they made what they made because they wanted to share something. Neither is entitled to any compensation. If they feel they aren't getting their deserved compensation, then they should stop. If their content is any good someone is going to share it with or without their authorization. Some people share it because they think it is awesome and want others to enjoy it. Some people share it for profit. There is not a damn thing you can do to stop it. It is a cycle that started long before recorded history.

TPB exists as a platform to resist censorship, frequently expressed through copyright. As long as people have something to share, and someone else trying to stop them, TPB will stay alive. It will certainly outlive petty bickering over who owns a torrent and has rights to profit from it.

[Sid]

You are failing to understand because you are missing the point.

The point is: TPB was created, and exists, so that people can share freely. That is it. There is no more to it than that.

It is not, never has been and never will be our aim to help people make money. Let alone our responsibility.

We do not, never have and never will give a fuck what people are sharing, who it supposedly "belongs" to or who is/is not profiting from it.

so in essence what your saying its ok for VIP's to do this

No.

What we are saying, explicitly, is that it is OK for EVERYONE to do it.

[NikkiSix]

Why do you rush to demonize someone who "steals" meta-data, when you have no problem sharing the content the meta-data was generated from?  You have yet to answer for that.  Either it is all OK, or none of it is.  If you can't stand someone else taking what you made and sharing it without your permission, maybe you should start sending out DMCA notices too.

are you serious?
so again what your saying is screw the sites that create that torrent meta data that have their own bills to pay because every tom dick and harry are free to steal your meta data and use their own pay per view host to dump them to TPB and profit for themselves which hurts the other sites

this whole thread is so basic anyone with an eye q level of -99 would understand it
seeing as you guys are so blinded by TPB moto and all it stands for which has some serious flaws how about you answer this

when sites that provide torrent to TPB start shutting down because idiots like macintos are allowed to RIP OFF other site meta data to pocket off them by using their own ppv host
whos' gonna provide for TPB?
TPB wont the proof in that is simple look back to the day the site was launched all TPB provides is a platform it it DOESN'T have its bots or auto bots of its own to provide for the site
you could always say when one uploader goes another comes aong i would say really? a lot have died but no new comers the prof of thats right in front of you

try thinking of the best interest of the guys that actually spend money and index stuff to TPB and not that silly moto you stand and die by
i LOVE TPB but you guys have a serious selfish way of thinking torrents are not just about TPB its about all the multiple communities,sites that provides to TPB

i really dont get how you guys dont see the harm it causes sites like rarbg when idiots like macitosh are allowed to index there meta,torrents and use their own ppv host to make profit off them

you keep saying if it ok for this guy to do it it's ok for all but their is clearly a huge difference here the other guys have bills to pay and use there OWN servers which is what provides to TPB and what ever site they affiliate to

but macintos doesn't do that he takes torrent meta data he didnt create from other sites dumps them to TPB and uses his own ppv host and makes money off those sites which harms them
machitos isn't rarbg baby and they owe him nothing he has no right to take their meta data and make money off them he doesn't pay their bills

here another no brainer macitosh doesn't remove the [rartv] name from his torrent because his being thoughtful his removing it because he himself knows what his doing if a low act and tries his best to conceal that
his intentions isn't to provide to TPB its to provide for his pocket at the expense of other sites if you believe otherwise then your blind
i could register an account and index from rarbg myself to if i wanted to the only difference would be that i WOULD NOT use my own ppv host and profit off them because that would hurt their site

but you guy seem to be missing that point blinded by TPB moto which has zero consideration for the people that provide for this site or thier bills
its like your saying TPB moto is gimmi gimmi gimmi who cares if other sites die thats SAD VERY VERY SAD 

wake up TPB crew the moto here is great that doesn't mean it cant have basic guidelines,rules that helps EVERY torrent site stay alive and not just TPB 
the resilience of this site means nothing when theirs is no one left to provide for it
im not here to persuade you into the way of this topic its a simple OPEN YOUR EYES because your hurting a lot of legitimate uploaders which is what helps this ship sail

ill say it again i LOVE TPB but the more i read on how selfish the thought process of it is the more you help persuade me into hatting it

do whatever you thinks right pull own you mod guns and ban me whatever helps you feel like a man and helps you sleep at night 
just hope and prey that the sites and real uploaders that provide to TPB don't read this thread because you seem to be kicking them in the guts

big thank you to the mods that let me say my piece without banning me
be good all and remember to think of everyone in the torrent world and not just TPB

[joew771]

So, if all this 'stealing' is hurting these other sites so badly, why are they still up and running and distributing torrents? It's been going on like that for years and years now.

Maybe look at it this way; the more people that upload a file, to more sites, makes things more readily available to everyone. And more difficult for the copyright trolls to find you, the downloader.

[NikkiSix]

So, if all this 'stealing' is hurting these other sites so badly, why are they still up and running and distributing torrents? It's been going on like that for years and years now.

Maybe look at it this way; the more people that upload a file, to more sites, makes things more readily available to everyone. And more difficult for the copyright trolls to find you, the downloader.

maybe think or it this way
why isn't rarbg indexing their torrents here anymore?
could it be that doing that takes away their own site traffic which pay for their bills?

it's their decision to upload here or not 
not some random members taking advantage or them not indexing here anymore and profiting off them
look at their site they dont let random uploader in they dont even have open registration the reason to that is clear as day
they pay for the service which provides for their members of their site they need that traffic thats their right not the random guys thats ripping them off

if copyright trolls want you enough they will get you anything that has a tracker attached to it gets tracked its the downloader,uploader that needs to be smart in protecting themselves

''So, if all this 'stealing' is hurting these other sites so badly, why are they still up and running and distributing torrents? It's been going on like that for years and years now.''

because just as i wrote because the legit uploaders that upload by the masses affiliate to multiple sites use their own private image host to help fund the services they use to be able to continue doing so
look at TPB uploaders,groups its not hard to spot who the bots and mass uploaders are 
hurt them to the point they cant fund what gives to the torrent world by the masses then you hurt TPB at the same time

im very grateful at the stuff i find at TPB but lets face it if they knock off the the mass uploaders by not giving a flying fuk about them
a mp3 or random ebook torrent uploaded every few days will turn the best public torrent site in the world into a ghost ship

i never not once said dont upload the same content that rarbg or other sites do
i said if people want to upload the same content then they should create and seed their own just like the rest of the legit uploaders here
at least that way the ones that are in it for money only like makintos earned it with their own resources and dont hurt other sites,uploaders

if you dont believe me when i say it hurts those other sites then go to alexa
https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo and enter rarbg site domain or any other torrent site that provides to TPB
rarbg suffers the most because of inconsiderate people like macintosh dumping their stuff here and profiting off them