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We got lots of videos of this Russian. That's because he was like few other Russians. He was a lucky Russian that lived a life separate from the influences that damage the mind. He did not live a life in fear. So he was an assertive and expecting Russian. A bold yet sensible Russian. A Russian that somehow learned what it means to be a human being. Such a rare thing in Russia.

Most Russians can't afford to live a life like that. They were raised closer to fear and intimidation influences. That "shapes" the mind of a person differently. Making them skittish and shy and unwilling to risk any bold ventures that would shine a spotlight on them. A spotlight that could be harmful to person and family. So most Russians cower in darkness and do as they are told. Like good communists who owe their place in society to the state that feeds them. So most Russians are little more than cattle. And we all know how easy to herd they are.

Gorby, with his rose colored glasses, met a lady at his university with the same humanity glasses. Yup, lets rename them to "humanity glasses", since there's so little of that to actually see in Russia. And they both were Ying to their Yang. There's alot to be said for the influences of true love. It can change the course of mighty rivers. Sorry Superman... Anyways, the article below has a quote on what it takes to keep a spark of humanity going in a sea of beastiaility. And I am sure there is great merit in that opinion...


"Gorbachev's very public devotion to his family broke the stuffy mold of previous Soviet leaders, just as his openness to political reform did."

“He loved a woman more than his work. I think he wouldn’t have been able to embrace her if his hands were stained with blood,” wrote Nobel Peace Prize winner Dmitry Muratov, editor of Russia's leading independent newspaper, Novaya Gazeta.

Gorbachev's marriage, like his politics, broke the mold
https://www.yahoo.com/news/gorbachevs-ma...31832.html

Anyways, from the above video, you can see the stark contrast. A dead human being together with a living monster. A monster that the fake news media insists is himself dying. And what you see is what we all got. Big trouble. I know tech is getting really good at faking videos, but for the time being, smart people can still tell the difference. And this video is certainly real. The quick story of the last days when the evil Russians took Gorbys "humanity glasses" away. And he was forced to see the Russia that surrounded him. And it was amazing that we were able to see and record the dying flicker of humanity in the USSR. A sad day that we will always have for our kids to see and learn from.

So the world of today presses on. And it's unfair to say that there's no more human beings in Russia. But there are no badges or tattoos to tell them apart. The humans from the monsters. With communism keeping them ALL chained in servitude to the beast. The younger people with eyes to the outside world are seeing and fleeing. That's good and bad. People deserve the life of their choice. But it's the young that will inherit the earth. And if the young keep fleeing, they may have nothing much left to inherit.

Meanwhile, the rest of the world is on the war path. With all Russians in the sights, since we don't have bullets that can figure good Russians from bad. And the news continues to get worse.

Mariupol: Occupiers pour concrete over bodies of those killed in Drama Theatre
https://www.yahoo.com/news/mariupol-occu...23484.html

N. Korea may send workers to Russian-occupied east Ukraine
https://news.yahoo.com/n-korea-may-send-...05650.html

Russian oil oligarch dies 6 months after his firm criticized the Ukraine war. State media says he fell out of a hospital window.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-oil-o...41834.html

Putin reaffirms intention to destroy Ukraine, ISW says
https://www.yahoo.com/news/putin-reaffir...00232.html

Russia could be ‘North Korea on steroids’: Economist and ex–Kremlin adviser warns what could happen if Putin is replaced
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/russi...09517.html

Russia shuts off Nord Stream gas pipeline indefinitely
https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-shuts-...53802.html

Kremlin says it fears Ukrainian provocation at Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant
https://news.yahoo.com/kremlin-says-fear...21044.html

The Kremlin says Western sanctions are the only thing stopping gas flows through Nord Stream 1 as Russia prepares to shut the key pipeline for maintenance
https://news.yahoo.com/kremlin-says-west...01862.html

Gorbachev let the Soviet Union dissolve. Putin wants it back
https://news.yahoo.com/m/ddb0d4b1-d8e1-3...oviet.html


Yup, the fugly in this picture is crystal clear and has been childs play to predict for a long time. Yet the idiots of the world, with power and choice, continue to egg it on like it's a sports event. Oh Gawd. Did I just say sports event?


Despite Brittney Griner's imprisonment, these Americans still plan to play basketball in Russia
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/despite-bri...08124.html

The first goal in ending this holocaust is getting the idiots out of the equation. If idiot Americans insist on idiot behavior, as is their American rights, then they need to be cut off from American support. Maybe then there will be fewer idiots tangled in the mess.
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Cutting idiots is out of the question, there're too many and just starting the purge would set the rest on fire, and they're the huge majority, control the capital and the weapons and the law making...
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(Sep 06, 2022, 09:48 am)dueda Wrote: Cutting idiots is out of the question, there're too many and just starting the purge would set the rest on fire, and they're the huge majority, control the capital and the weapons and the law making...

From the misanthropy standpoint, humanity is everyone knows what (yes, including you or me in this as the part of humanity). Should it be used as a reason for doing the unjust or being unfair? Never.
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(Sep 08, 2022, 07:32 am)Slow Mo Wrote:
(Sep 06, 2022, 09:48 am)dueda Wrote: Cutting idiots is out of the question, there're too many and just starting the purge would set the rest on fire, and they're the huge majority, control the capital and the weapons and the law making...

From the misanthropy standpoint, humanity is everyone knows what (yes, including you or me in this as the part of humanity). Should it be used as a reason for doing the unjust or being unfair? Never.

No, I don't agree with this. The purpose of the actions of righteous humanity is to promote all things that will continue the existence of the future of humanity. Not just righteous humanity. It's better to live to regret how we lived than to perish enmass from righteous principals. We can always morn and strive to do better when the danger point passes. A classic example is the contrast of mankind now, versus mankind as dictated by "somebodies" "holy scriptures". If we had a world taken over by fear of "gods", there would be no dinosaurs, no meteors, no technology, and no space progress. So we would have no defense against meteors, and disease. The religious would deny the likely hood of extinction by saying we have been here since Adam and Eve. With the rib thing. With roving religious enforcers burning all who had better ideas.

So we have freedom and all the flaws, as a better way to promote a more robust future of human kind. With the flaws being debated out of the future equation. Like debating religion out of the path of humans future. Just like debating kings out because they are so easily corrupted by useless ego trips. Same for freedom deciding who stays and who leaves, when the next meteor hits. At least a choice can be made for the continuing future of human kind. Even if the choice means that not everybody gets to live on. Its a sad but necessary choice that must be present in our social machinery if we are expected to survive fates of all forms.

Surviving "unjustly" is better than not surviving at all. BECAUSE... who is supposed to be the god that dictates what is unjust? That is a decision best left to those who are free to decide as a group. And I'm sure that the instinct of self preservation will guide a group to make the best decision that saves the most. The mark of a brave and sensible species. A species worthy of survival.

Ukraine is performing "righteous" living. Throwing everybody at their invaders. Now saying that thousands of children have been killed. And not saying how many thousands have been kidnapped. It's so useless what they are doing. Only because one idiot in charge, that use to be a TV "comedian", declared that they would all fight to the death. And that's what's been going on. Kids with no choice are being slaughtered. Not to mention all the other non combatants. So Ukraine is left being slowly exterminated and concreted over. The world should learn from this so the rest of humanity doesn't suffer the same fates from the decisions of a few ignorant humans.
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Fine, have your point. Everyone is free to disagree with an opinion and free to hold their own.
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In a free world, everybody is entitled to their own opinion. And the First amendment allows the free speech of those opinions in the public domain. Some of the awesome rights of a truly free society. The point of these rights is to foster an endless supply of ideas that could be used to make the society of humans continually better. As a result, even the word "freedom" has wildly different meanings from people to people. Russias Putin would say his people have "freedom". They are all free to vote for him as many times as they want. Whereas, in America, if you vote more than once, you will go to prison for many years.

So who is to say which freedom is better? Well, there is a monster size argument on that point, and it's currently settled by the size of gun barrels. Nuclear gun barrels. And since nobody wants to be thrashed by anybody elses nukes, they get to keep their opinion of freedom...on their side of the wall. As we get to keep our freedom on this side. If you see satellite pictures of what North Korean "freedom" looks like, you can't help but notice a huge difference. South Korea with their freedom all lit up like a sports ball park. While North Korea is so dark, that it's hard to tell it's even there.

It's not always the perfect comparison, since Germanies "freedom" in the Nazi times would be brightly lit. But more often than not, poor technical progress is a direct result of freedom being not so free. AS you have in places like Russia.  A land where their people are afraid to do things freely. So less things get done on a national scale. Chinas freedom, on the other hand, is an octopus with endless tentacles. Especially with regards to technical advances. China is bent on technology superiority. And as such, has a bureaucracy that micro manages the freedoms of people in the technology sector. Those working to improve China tech in areas the government covets, are granted more freedom privileges. And since the people can directly compare their privileges to that of their parents, they can feel an increasing sense of gratitude compared to how things could be. So Chinese people as a whole are content with the freedom of their country. Russian people are content that they are not starving. So they don't rock the boat. Arab people are content that they don't get body parts chopped off. And African people are content when they are not being chased out of their homes by machete men.

So you see, freedom means many things in many places. I am so glad for American freedoms and the big guns that protect it. And because our freedom is so much freer, we are very high on the advancement and living standards scale. As such, we got one of the few covid drugs that arguably works. And we got the best rockets to get us to space. That's 2 ways to conquer the biggest enemies to human survival. Meteors and disease. China and Russia still doing the lock down thing to battle covid. Despite all their claims of covid victory. Humanity would say that we should be compelled to cure their disease. But self survival says "not so fast". We already got big guns aimed at each other. So there's no point to curing a people that are bent on our harm. Certainly not without some kind of meaningful negotiation that increases our own security.

And that is the biggest perk of true freedom. The power to do the most to ensure our own survival from ALL perils. And only after we have vanquished all perils, can we afford to be more humane.

Reminds me of Planet of the Apes. After the Apes finally defeated man. They could stop and afford to be humane... to the survivors. Because in war of any kind, the winner lives on to make all the rules. With big emphasis on living.



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(Sep 08, 2022, 16:07 pm)stts2 Wrote:
(Sep 08, 2022, 07:32 am)Slow Mo Wrote:
(Sep 06, 2022, 09:48 am)dueda Wrote: Cutting idiots is out of the question, there're too many and just starting the purge would set the rest on fire, and they're the huge majority, control the capital and the weapons and the law making...

From the misanthropy standpoint, humanity is everyone knows what (yes, including you or me in this as the part of humanity). Should it be used as a reason for doing the unjust or being unfair? Never.

So Ukraine is left being slowly exterminated and concreted over. The world should learn from this so the rest of humanity doesn't suffer the same fates from the decisions of a few ignorant humans.

What would you suggest they have done? Surrender? Would you do that is Russia invaded your country? I Wouldn't.
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(Sep 11, 2022, 16:49 pm)Iliketacos Wrote: What would you suggest they have done? Surrender? Would you do that is Russia invaded your country? I Wouldn't.

Oh hell yea. I would have done it just like Kuwait when Sadaam rolled his army in. Kuwaitis rolled out the back door to the border. And they eventually got their country back in better shape than Ukraines country is. And with very few deaths. If you read this whole thread, you would know that Ukraine was in no way prepared to fight a world super power. So it was insane to start off by refusing to mount a mass evacuation of at least all non combatants. This has cost the lives of countless thousands of people that not even the Ukrainians can keep a count on. People that have gone thru all manner of hell at the hands of Russian monsters. And they went thru all that while mostly disarmed. When it all started, Ukrainians had only coke bottles of gasoline to fight tanks with. Pure insanity. Led by an incompetent TV comedian who keeps his own family way out in a hidden safe zone. While other peoples families are being burned out in the combat zones. Yes. Country wide retreat was the only sane option. And the "Presidents" stupidity refused to do that. Paid for by the lives of women, children and old people that are right now having concrete poured over their bones to build new Russian buildings.

America is not the incompetent Ukrainians. America has invented a war machine that can stand toe to toe with any army in the world. America has no sensible reason to retreat. Ukraine spent the last 30 years selling off their war machine to pay for their liberal way of life. They denied the possibility of invasion and theft of their national treasures. And they were completely and utterly wrong. They were invaded. They are being exterminated. And their treasures are being hauled away. And they had no defense against it. Under such incompetence and malpractice, they should have wised up and retreated with all those who were helpless.

The ONLY reason Ukraine is still on TV today is because American Democraps hate Putin like nobody else on earth. Democraps want revenge for Putin giving aid and comfort to Trump. And after seeing that Putin was going slowly like a turtle in his war efferts, Democraps had the time to join hands and gather world class weapons to give to Ukraine. To watch Putins stuff get blown up.

And when this all started, there was no sign that Democraps would do any of this. It was clear that Ukraine was going to be stolen, and all the people punished. I would not say that Democraps took awhile to grow balls. I would say that Democraps took awhile to grow these tiny little squirrel gonads and gave some old weapons to Ukraine thru Poland, and said here's some guns and your on your own. The hate for Trump and the Congress attacks grew the Putijn hate even bigger over time. Making more weapons available to give to Ukraine.

So you see, Ukraine stupidity has been nearly the ruin of Ukraine. And only the raging hate of American Democraps for Putin has risen up to save Ukraine "so far". Now. with all that being said, there is no question that Ukrainians are a most brave people in battle. And they have earned way more respect than they are getting. It is unquestionable. But this war didn't have to be this way to begin with. If only Ukraine elected leaders instead of TV stars. They knew more than anybody how treacherous Russians are. They should have spent 30 years building defenses instead of selling them off. Because They had national treasure to protect. The treasure that supports its people. And Ukraine leadership fell flat on its face.

So thank America and the rest of the free world for Ukraine still being on the map. But this war isn't over. The monster world power is still hungry. And winter is getting near. And Ukraine is still very much in a bad way with non combatants still being slaughtered ruthlessly. While Russians at home continue with normal Russian life. Eating Ukraines harvest that is stolen as I write this. Ukraine is facing a winter with no gas or electric to heat with. The news said the last reactor at the huge nuke plant was shut off by the Russsians. And Americas Democraps do not have fuel to give to the Ukrainians. So another wave of mass death and suffering is headed to Ukraine. While Russia will spend the winter eating Ukrainians food. Make no mistake. Only the Russians can stop Putins war. And if they don't, American weapons will not be enough to save them. 

In a fight, America won't run because we have the means to fight. But even we, retreat to fight another day. Even when we don't need to retreat. (Afghanistan) Kuwait managed their war brilliantly. And they are a stronger country now as a result.

Democraps will not be able to arm Ukraine indefinitely. Especially if they loose in November. Some arms will continue to flow. But even now, it's not enough. Ukraine needs more miracles, to dig them out of their wasted 30 years. Like global warming. If its real, they will desperately need it to fight off the winter. Because they refused to retreat. To warm borders with free Visas to Europe. And food that's not stolen by the Russians. The Libtard media backing the Democraps will always say that Russia is loosing. But the pictures and news show that it's Ukraine that continues to loose. Somebody posted the map of Ukraines losses above. Its pretty clear, that the Russians have taken alot. Very valuable stuff. And there's no sign that the Russians are quitting. Winter is likely to be the deciding chapter of the country of Ukraine. And its not looking very good.

Being brave is admirable. But winning is all that matters. So its never smart to bring a knife or a coke bottle gas bomb to a gun fight...



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This is 9/11. A day of great tragedy and unthinkable violation. The day we can never forget. This is why we have soldiers. People that serve in our society. People that train and prepare and sacrifice, so they can be ready to protect and save those who cant protect themselves. Policemen, Firemen, Guardsmen, Militarymen, and simply the random bravemen. And it doesn't matter the nature of the peril. The point of all these people is to help those who can't help themselves. Especially from the perils of war. So always remember their heroism as they fight to protect you. Stuff is more replaceable than people. So be grateful if they can only save you and not your stuff. Or if they can only save some of you. Heros are human too, so they can only do the best that they can. Its not supposed to be about blind gallantry or retreat. It's about whatever it takes to save the helpless. All the stuff can be considered at a more appropriate time. When all the "civilians" are saved.

Never forget all the people that perished on 9/11, but honor most especially the 347 Firemen heros that did the best that they could to save the helpless. And honor most especially the Millitarymen heros that went and gave their lives to destroy the monsters that prey on the helpless. The monsters they destroyed can't harm any more helpless people.


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Kuwait could flee because Kuwait had something people wanted. Oil. And they were being invaded by a dictator the world hated. Saddam Hussein, back when Reppublicans hated dictators instead of now when they love them because they are "strong" despite the fact that all the people who speak out agaist them keep getting tossed out windows. The world came to the aid of Kuwait because they were attacked by a nut even the other Arab countries coulnd't stand. Nobody was going to fight the Russian after the Ukranians ran away because that is WW3 and the world wouldn't put up with it so you back the side you want to win and you keep them in the game. Most sane democrats and at least enough of the "communism and dictators used to be bad" republicans still feel that way.
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