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Reading the Bible
#11
In order to have a strategy in reading the Bible, there has to be someone who can guide you through it.

What I'm thinking is that I should plan to go to services. Well, there is a church nearby and the structure is big.

Well, always something to learn each day. Smile

The only problem is, I'm not absolved of "Original Sin." How does an unbaptised person go through that?
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#12
(Aug 27, 2019, 23:23 pm)RobertX Wrote: The only problem is, I'm not absolved of "Original Sin." How does an unbaptised person go through that?

Catholics are more strict on that; one can't be "in the Church" without many proper rites, from baptism to crisma etc.
In theory, if you're not baptised, you go to hell no matter what.


Other christian churchs (from Orthodox to Lutheran to Renovation to Surfboarding Snowball) have each their take, but mostly will forgive whoever do good, even if they won't attend services or explicitly accept the liturgy.
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#13
On to the highway to hell I am...

what is your religion, dueda?

When I was in high school, which is a Catholic one, but accepts students of any/all faith, the chaplain there is very nice. He even took me to a buffet lunch, despite the fact that I am not a legitimate Christian.

Sometimes though, and I'm not arguing to protect my skin, a good God should protect people of all faiths as long as they do good. It's not a cop-out argument, it's common sense.
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#14
(Aug 30, 2019, 22:43 pm)RobertX Wrote: On to the highway to hell I am...
> AC/DC is still great. Gotta have it playing loud on a Mustang jumping down the Grand Canion at 200 MPH...

what is your religion, dueda?
> Guns & Money! I'm no longer so poor, then I guess opium is out (as defined by Marx).

When I was in high school, which is a Catholic one, but accepts students of any/all faith, the chaplain there is very nice. He even took me to a buffet lunch, despite the fact that I am not a legitimate Christian.
> You're lucky he wasn't one of those pedophiles, or you could be the dessert.

Sometimes though, and I'm not arguing to protect my skin, a good God should protect people of all faiths as long as they do good. It's not a cop-out argument, it's common sense.
> I don't know if I agree, most religions seem to have "jealous" gods, like in the Greek/Roman pantheons, or to say they are the only truth.
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#15
dueda, I see now you deserve more credit than I give you for being a scholar.

Graduation here you go!

ZERO SARCASM!
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#16
Thanks, I just have a few good days. Most of the time I'm na absent-minded simpleton. Also non-sarcasm, qui-pro-quo.
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#17
The bible is really three books:

OT1: Pentateuch - Written by Josiah and his ilk around 800BC. Mostly myths and stories to fire up Judean aspirrations to emulate the former glories of a defunct Israel(at the time). Pharaoh disagreed with Josiah....

OT2: Captivity and later writings: Generally more mellow in tone, Written after the Jews were released by the Persians, but Jehovah was not. Records show the the religious vessels of the jews were sent with them, but the main 'god icon' was not - a notable omission that led to the first commandment - iconoclasm.

New Testament - Hellenistic Eschatology wrapped in the story of a Palestinian Horus/Osiris character. Adopted and adapted by Constantine who made himself Pharaoh (Holy Spirit). As the basis of modern Western Civilization certainly the more interesting of the three.
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#18
(Sep 04, 2019, 18:59 pm)waregim Wrote: The bible is really three books:

OT1: Pentateuch - Written by Josiah and his ilk around 800BC. Mostly myths and stories to fire up Judean aspirrations to emulate the former glories of a defunct Israel(at the time). Pharaoh disagreed with Josiah....

OT2: Captivity and later writings: Generally more mellow in tone, Written after the Jews were released by the Persians, but Jehovah was not. Records show the the religious vessels of the jews were sent with them, but the main 'god icon' was not - a notable omission that led to the first commandment - iconoclasm.

New Testament - Hellenistic Eschatology wrapped in the story of a Palestinian Horus/Osiris character. Adopted and adapted by Constantine who made himself Pharaoh (Holy Spirit). As the basis of modern Western Civilization certainly the more interesting of the three.

Pretty correct except for the the part where you mention "jehovah" which is a dead give away of spoiled copypastries quite literally. 1/10 for effort
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#19
I save my time & energy reading books that have received less exposure, and dreaming of books I can't access. Julian II's writings, which were almost all destroyed
by Cyril of Alexandria are a case in point. After all, Julian showed the idiocy of Christianity in stark detail.
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#20
Julian by Gore Vidal is the next best thing.
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