How to stop Donald Trump
#61
(Aug 14, 2016, 18:38 pm)big_dad_e Wrote: no comment on hillary's strategist bob beckel's comment?  double standards.  what example of bigotry can you show me?  the left labels people with dissenting opions and attack them personally instead of discussing real issues.  hillary?  she has more baggage than sw airlines.

I thought the "real issue" was Trump's racism.  Not Hillary's baggage (funny line though), not Bob Beckel (what impact does he have?), and certainly not Saul Alinsky (why on earth are we even talking about him?).  What does any of that have to do with who Trump is at a fundamental level?  It's all misdirection, smoke and mirrors, or so it seems to me.
#62
Smoke and mirrors is all they have. You want an example of bigoted statements?

Trump saying all mexicans are rapists.

Trump saying we should ban muslims.

Trump saying a judge can't be impartial because he's mexican.

Trump's company not renting to black people.

Trump refusing to condemn David Duke.

Trump claiming Obama wasn't born in the US.
#63
Trump's misogynist remarks on women.

Trump mocking a disabled reporter.

These examples go far beyond any acceptable definition of mere "dissenting opinion".
#64
(Aug 14, 2016, 17:55 pm)big_dad_e Wrote: "mmmm...so just you know I was replying directly to you"

It's a goddamn satire...in my taste
honestly, what USA need at this moment IS indeed someone like Frank.
why?
Because in my "Opinion" The last time USA(and well some little portions of this planet) has someone with more than enough Integrity and Intelligence to somehow "Organize" this all anti Donald Duck movement because it's always need a flags bearer for peoples to rallies to.

right now everyone in anti-trump is nothing more like lost tourists inside a brothels.

PS:
I knew Frank Zappa as much as many Music lovers has, including his interesting "adventures" with the Czech, which is quite valid facts to made me thinks and say that USA and all others countries politicians are somehow is another failed forms of humanities pursues towards evolution
#65
i'm not posting to troll or be trolled. if you disagree with me fine, vote for hillary. if you liked obama you'll love clinton. i do not like obama or hillary or their failed policies. i'm no fan of government and it keeps getting bigger and bigger along with debt that won't ever be paid. bail out the banks and wall st. and get ready to do it again when the banks go with negative interest. the stock market is due for another correction so get ready to kiss your i.r.a. and 401k retirement plans goodbye. if you're living in your parent's basement plan on staying there and if you're working at walmart, (currently the largest private u.s. employer) guess what, if the minimum wage goes where clinton wants it you'll be laid off and have to work at mcdonalds until a robot replaces you. so get informed with sources you may not agree with and wait for the next wikileaks dump. perhaps it's because i raised a family and see the millennials have it worse than when i was that age. trump's attraction is he's not a politician and people are sick of them especially me.
#66
George W. Bush bailed out the banks, do you even try to get facts straight?
#67
(Aug 14, 2016, 19:13 pm)big_dad_e Wrote: i'm not posting to troll or be trolled.  if you disagree with me fine, vote for hillary.  if you liked obama you'll love clinton.  i do not like obama or hillary or their failed policies.  i'm no fan of government and it keeps getting bigger and bigger along with debt that won't ever be paid.  bail out the banks and wall st. and get ready to do it again when the banks go with negative interest.  the stock market is due for another correction so get ready to kiss your i.r.a. and 401k retirement plans goodbye.  if you're living in your parent's basement plan on staying there and if you're working at walmart, (currently the largest private u.s. employer) guess what, if the minimum wage goes where clinton wants it you'll be laid off and have to work at mcdonalds until a robot replaces you.  so get informed with sources you may not agree with and wait for the next wikileaks dump.  perhaps it's because i raised a family and see the millennials have it worse than when i was that age.  trump's attraction is he's not a politician and people are sick of them especially me.

I get it, big_dad_e, I really do.  Corrupt career politicians, Hillary's tenuous relationship with the truth, bloated government, obscene corporate bailouts.  We can agree it's enough to make you sick.  But casting a vote for someone as reckless, dishonest, and fundamentally mean-spirited as the "non-politician" Donald Trump will solve absolutely nothing.  It can only make matters worse.
#68
(Aug 14, 2016, 19:22 pm)politux Wrote: George W. Bush bailed out the banks, do you even try to get facts straight?

i never stated he didn't, if you read it again it states "government" which bush was a big fan also. obama just prints more money and gives it to iran.
#69
Trump is awful. Hillary is even more awful. But I'll remind everyone again, especially the non-Americans, that our president isn't really that powerful.

Our president can't launch nuclear weapons willy nilly. They can't change any laws. They can't do much of anything without the agreement of the other 2 branches of government. The legislative, and the judicial.

Let's say Trump wanted to build a wall between Mexico and the US and then wanted to launch nukes at Mexico City. He couldn't do that at all. Unless both the Senate and the Congress agreed with that, and it looks like they will probably be democratic. And even if they weren't it isn't like the repubican senate would vote to bomb Mexico. That's silly.

Trump would have the power to veto some new laws if any came up and propose some, that if too ridiculous, would be vetoed themselves. Otherwise he couldn't do all that much.

That is why so many of our presidents didn't do what they had promised to, including Obama, and most of the rest of them. They aren't all powerful. America doesn't elect a dictator.

Everybody relax. Both candidates suck, but we just have to wait 4 years and hopefully a better one will come along.
#70
I feel Sorry to a VERY FEW GOOD and shockingly have serious far lesser numbers of intelligence and unbiased AMERICANS that have to deal with this shitty choice that they "just have to make".....well since obviously the

"usual revolutions made by the peoples to overthrown a non-western country that ruled by sketchy and manipulating groups of peoples that somehow claimed to be in form of Freedoms and Democracies which absolutely not! I Repeat NOT! and NEVER! had anything to do with some sketchy peoples goes here and there between the mentioning country and US Embassy in neighboring countries that already experienced the same situations which is also IS NOT! have anything to do with Halliburton "suddenly" won the rights to exploits near by Dinosaur's fossils juice"

cannot be applied in their own soils...since only Third world countries of savaged and uneducated fucktards sub-humans with affinities of naked white women porn which is some of if not mainly why they actually easy to conquer in the first place deserve and done.


You got one side that want if not already sold your country to the Unified Corporations of planet Earth which is quite usual and sadly pathetic that we Homo Sapiens only have this petty horrendous things called Money to united our selves...well not all practically, more like the less 1% of any G20 members citizens.
Remember about...mmmm...TPP????!!

And

Another side where's the opponents are seasonal businessman
 which is ironic if you see the first option, that's although quite ridiculously bad at his seasonal job but has the most essentials skills that every magnificent salesman in human species need and required...know to who they'll sell, what to sell and when.

which in this case the NOT surprisingly xenopho..mm..Patriotic Peoples of USA.
USA fuck Yeah!



that have quite unfavorable agenda that will make the Great US fucking A greatest propaga....mmm...principlas of Lands Of Freedoms, Home to the Braves and All Humans Created Whi..mm..Equals! is nothing more than far past of tales and myth...which if not already is. AND! essentially will make the whole USA citizens a target of a new level of.....cyber bullying...seriously...and tons of hilarious MEME's, Jokes, a series of grass roots level horizontals conflicts between politically divided citizens and Bed Times stories for peoples in Europe the libertarian one to their children's about once upon a time there's a prosper and self proclaimed great peaceful country called America then come Donald...you know the rest.

which is truthfully although both sides are sucks bad also for the World.
having someone that easily ridiculed by the rest of the world, and surprisingly will became VEEEERRRRRYYYY Easy to thrown down from it's Throne...well theoretically speaking IF elected....Is not as bad as having someone that have almost Undisputed reach of power to other countries in the terms of economic and trades, That's IS actually the biggest Threats to whole new Global forms of Imperialism disguised as Globalization.

In case you all don't realized or ignored if not denied.

Having someone get a gun against his/her/it's head by someone with cowboy's outfits
...it's a pun by the way...
because he/she/it say something of disapproval or running a mass movements to
..example given..
provides better tax deals for the less economically peoples
(Free speech, in case you mistaken some death threats from teenager idols fan girls to some randoms guy that's critics about their tastes of music..no...it's not fee speech)
Will actually strengthen both the will power and the cause.

Now..given the same case but instead of guns he/she/it have their asses screwed by unimaginable amounts of ridiculous Law Suits of almost anything that well..sue-able..delivered by Supermodels grade Hot Blonde White Chicks the types that always running around their wet dreams...naked..it's a stereotypes...I Know..
That's literary will makes them slave their asses off to paid those extreme amount of Legalized ransoms even after they ended up in prisons they still have to pays the fines.

now given these peoples that's protest is not some kind Guerrilla Jungle Warfare in the 60's-70's...subpoena in some ways will bent their willpower..since anything cost money these days.
cut the cash peoples bent.
cut the cash peoples robs...literary.


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