stts2's politics thread

[CaptButler]

I see Void in this thread's future.

RussianX, I have no doubt propogandists posting garbage are also filing complaints behind the scenes. They said it on tbe news. Russian fake news network is on overdrive whipping up Ukraine and West world hate. They posted Russian kids in a school lining up making letter Z. Letter Z is being posted all over Russia. Even a ParaOlympic looser was wearing letterZ after beaten by a Ukrainian. All part of the false flag narrative to justify the invasion. Let the Russian people be fooled into remaining sheep. But the rest of the world is wise to these tricks thanks to the smartphone revolution.

Stts2,

While I can applaud your calling out of the absurd Russian state propaganda that is being spewed at us, please do not allow passion to obscure that facts still matter, now more than ever.  For instance, I've never seen even the slightest evidence that RobertX is one of the Pooty-bots.  Also, the "ParaOlympic looser" wearing a "Z" on his gymnast uniform was actually a fully-abled smarmy, provocative little dickhole who was likely sore over the fact that not only did he lose to a Ukrainian, but also that the Russian national team was being banned from international competition shortly after that awards ceremony.

Regardless of what anyone says about it, facts still matter, and they still have consequences, too.

[stts2]

stts2RobertXI see Void in this thread's future.
RussianX, I have no doubt propogandists posting garbage are also filing complaints behind the scenes. They said it on tbe news. Russian fake news network is on overdrive whipping up Ukraine and West world hate. They posted Russian kids in a school lining up making letter Z. Letter Z is being posted all over Russia. Even a ParaOlympic looser was wearing letterZ after beaten by a Ukrainian. All part of the false flag narrative to justify the invasion. Let the Russian people be fooled into remaining sheep. But the rest of the world is wise to these tricks thanks to the smartphone revolution.
Stts2,
While I can applaud your calling out of the absurd Russian state propaganda that is being spewed at us, please do not allow passion to obscure that facts still matter, now more than ever. For instance, I've never seen even the slightest evidence that RobertX is one of the Pooty-bots. Also, the "ParaOlympic looser" wearing a "Z" on his gymnast uniform was actually a fully-abled smarmy, provocative little dickhole who was likely sore over the fact that not only did he lose to a Ukrainian, but also that the Russian national team was being banned from international competition shortly after that awards ceremony.
Regardless of what anyone says about it, facts still matter, and they still have consequences, too.

Yup, your point is well taken. They been slinging so much crap that its hard to keep it sorted out. Thats also part of the scheme. I kinda was wondering why the disable olympic looser looked pretty able in the pics. But never got around to double checking his story. Anyways, all this is in no way a surprising state of events given who started all this. We all just need to be vigilant in supporting the facts or showing outrage over the facts. Whichever applies. Its for the good of young people trying to make sense of whats going on. Especially so these days with such good photoshop fakery at so many fingertips. I just saw a story about Putin having terminal butt cancer. Hah. That is certainly too good to be true.

[stts2]

Predictions of the future are seriously like throwing dice in Vegas. The Super power is king. But he cant shoot nukes. And the people aren't leaving. So it will be bloody murder. But his rich friends are pulling their hair out. But he cant give up. But his roll out was botched. But he needs Ukraines riches. But the world is squeeeezing. But he cant back down... So you see, this is one crazy situation for everybody. Putin included. And just when you think its possible Putin could back off, you get that nut job Zelinsky saying woohoo Mr Putin, Im over here and you cant get me. I bet Putins flunkies were desperately hiding the nuclear buttons when media posted that brainless brag. Poking the bear, and beating on the hornets nest is really bad strategy to trying to deescalate a crisis. Especially when 48 million peoples lives are at stake. Dang. That crazy Dancing with the stars dude is the best statesman I have see over there. He was insane to go in the first place. But when he got there, he was serious and frank about the situation. Abmirable responces nobody can fault, not even Putin. Then he finally wised up and got the hell out. Theres no guns for him to fight with.

So here we are, still Vegas odds of what will happen next, but no doubt the end of Ukraine if Putin is left to press on. And the rest of us get crazy price inflation as we sit glued to our TVs.

Shakin my head...

[stts2]

Biden goes wishy washy on planes to Ukraine. Well, I posted days ago that planes to Ukraine is a very complicated idea. And Im just some wanker with a big screen TV. Just goes to show the fecklessness of US leadership. And poor Zelinski going nuts after he thought he had a deal over something nearly impossible to do. An Army General setting up his people with no retreat. And banking on such poor hopes of a few extra planes is a poor General indeed. All easily blown up with a few extra missles. Biden finally thinking of that himself.

Fecklessness on both sides. Hell Fecklessness on all 3 sides. Hah. This should have been a walk in the park for Putins army. But Putin still has all the advantages. So Putin is his own worst enemy. Ukraine is on borrowed time right now and pretty much wasting that time. All bridges into the Capital have been bombed. Russia will have to sort of fight to get in, but the people cant get out. Supplies of a substantial nature cant get in either. So as Putin slows down to haul in more supplies, people are using up what they have of life support and amunition. So you see, Putin owns the end game.

And all the lands riches will be worth all the worlds squeezing. A western reporter on TV interviewed a Russian about McDonalds closing up. The Russian said, so what. Bye bye. He said Russia became world dependant when McDonalds opened, and will now become world independent with Mcdonalds gone. Thats just what I posted days ago. Ukrainian spoils will corrupt the public attitude and start parties in the streets. Endless food, energy and raw materials to build there own stuff from stolen Western plans. All Putin has to do is stick to his guns. And I see no reason why he wouldnt. The water ports are cut off. The air service is cut off. The pathetic rail line can only move 2000 people west per trip. And the people arent leaving in any useful amounts. So the starvation plan is already in motion. Just not sure if the western media machine will be working when the skeletons begin marching out on "safe corridors" to Siberia.

I wonder when the cannibal rumors will start. Nothing will dismantle the prestige of Ukraine quicker than reports of loathsome cannibal people. Whether it really happens or not. Yup. The Fugly here has not even begun.

People post that western media is biased and cant be trusted. Well, thats a blanket condemnation to brainwash the ignorant to ignore news completely. Thats unproductive. The pictures and videos are real. Theres just so much that it cant all be faked. And pictures of themselves are worth a thousand words. So smartly cherry pick the news you see. Just because Russian bodies are being reported, doesnt mean the Russians are in big trouble. The network continues a "wishful" narative of Russia loosing. But it really just wishful. The results of Ukrainian attacks so far are like being pestered by angry bees. You run abit, but then whip out the big cans of Raid. Bees dead. So enjoy the media while you can. Just like in Afghanistan and Syria, it will all soon end. Then real horror will unfold that we likely will never see. Like Zelinsky being chained to tanks and being pulled apart like pulling wings off of flies. All behind the Kremlin walls. Putin will no doubt witness that personally.

[stts2]

Snivel snivel whine whine. Dumb liberals gripeing about the pot shots aimed at the poor poor Russians. Well, those Russians aint so poor. We are pushing $5 for gas while they pay $2, and its dropping fast for them. Why wouldn't it? They make their own gas, and surplus is starting to build up as they work with china to buy more. In fact, all energy prices and the cost of doing things is dropping for Russia. So there's no big revolt in the works. Russians accept better times even though their neighbors are being eliminated. That's what being Russian is all about. And not much the rest of the world can do about it.

But you see, Russia is really just a spider in the grand scheme of things. All the sudden, they run out and grab something, then rip it back into their lair. And all people can do is whine about it. End of story. The real danger is China. Now that is the big gorilla in the public park. You don't know how rabid it is, and you can't get near it.

China is both powerful and smart. Way smarter than the Ruskies in every way. But just as bent on grabbing at the world. You see, Trump had it right. China unleashed that china virus on the world. It was an experiment. To see how well bats do at spreading a bio weapon. And they got a ton of data out of it. Its likely they underestimated the degree of sickness that covid caused. They probably were figuring on just a mild flue sweeping the world. But they had plans in place before they dropped their little bomb. They were already building 1000 person hospitals in record time before we even knew covid was coming. So Trump was spot on to be furious with China and cancel all activities with them. It's just too bad our own government was at war with Trump and even called it the Trump virus. We are our own worst enemy.

Well, back to the China smart part. Unlike Russia, Chinese stuff works. In fact, Chinese stuff is pretty much top shelf. So China is infilterating the world with their stuff equipped with back door china only access. And the end game to this is world shut down at a time of their choosing. It's one prong of an octopus wrapped around the world. China is bent on hacking the world and stealing everybodies info. They want to know who you are and where you are at all times. They are seriously bent on getting everybodies dna. Its hard to know what their plans are for decades out, but they are as loathsome of human rights as the Russians are. So it's possible that their aim is to grow a dna bomb to attack all that are not of Chinese descent. China is watching. And they see how not to conquer a people. Unlike Russia, China is indeed heavily tied to our dollar. So they are watching how the world jacks with the ruble. And learn fromRussias responce to it. It's also very troublesome to take prisoners. Especially countries full of prisoners. So a world Chinese takeover would best be done by an indoctrinated chinese population. So once that Octopus has all its arms wrapped around the world, there's really no reason why China wouldnt squeeeeze. Fortunately, their complicated entaglement with the world would indicate that they are a long ways from world changing actions. So we have time to act in our own best interests. If we could dump the rose colored glasses...

[stts2]

All we are saaaaayiiiiing, is give peace a chaaaaaaance. Ingnorant liberals been singing that song ever since that dead liberal wrote it. There's only one peace that truly sticks. That's the peace at the end of gun barrels. All this crap is going on yet Russian and the west are still at peace. Neither side been shooting at each other. Just goes to show the power of nukes aimed at each other. It allowed each side to build up huge modern cities and populations. With people living happy lives. Ukraine did the liberal thing and tried it without the big guns. Now they got what they got. And the world is now talking like they might be gassed. Well I posted before that Russian thugs had no use for prisoners that they stole everything from. So gassing them would kinda be a logical step to clear the way more easily. Biden keeps saying there will be "dire consequences ". But what's dire is that Biden has about run out of ideas. Biden steals all Russian yats, Russia steals all western Airliners. Like 500 of them. So Russians still have non stop in country air service on top line western planes that are safer than Russian built ones. Russians siezed American companies and will now run them themselves. So all this tit for tat is doing nothing to stop the invaders. Russians still killing anybody in Ukraine that they can get their gun sights on. Pretty women and children too. I guess Biden taking away Russian birthdays is next.

So what else is new? Ukrainian Mayer vanishes. Yikes. Sounds so antiseptic. Vanishes. No mess, no fuss. No video, no witness, no proof. Hmm. This sounds kinda familiar. Remember a guy named Khashoggi? He vanished too. One video recorded him go in, and he was never seen again. Totally antiseptic, ready to be forgotten. All the usual suspects claiming innocense. But Turkish officials produced an audio recording that detailed the entire event. Khashoggi was cut up into little pieces and carried away in brief cases. Never to be heard from again. Huh. Seems like Ukraine is being cut up into pieces. And people are "vanishing". I suspect there's lots more vanishing going to be happening. After all, theres not alot of big guns to stop it. And with communications being cut, never to be heard from again. Russians already spinning yarns on world TV of the rescue of the Ukrainian people. Comedy TV for sure. If it wasnt for the genocide thats really being perpetrated by the Russians. With no plans to actually catch and arrest perpetrators, I dont see much chance that Bidens "Dire Consequences" will have much teeth. Just Google Khashoggi. The named perpetrators have since been released and pardoned.

And in other news, Iran shoots missles at American Consulate buildings. Dang. Whats up with that? No doubt some idiot was smoking in the ammo dump. The world is full of liberals, I mean idiots...Unfortunately, not so simple. Nothing ever is. So, with all the shootin going on and the LOUD and CLEAR messages that the West wont be shooting back, why wouldn't any and all other tyrants do some of their own shooting. It's literally free-for-all days in this crazy Kmart world. Reminds me of another time when our Consulate was shot up. When another liberal was President. What an Obamanation that was. In those days, US Ambasadores able to call for help were told no help was coming, and they were on their own. We all know how that was covered up in a bad way, and controlling Liberals unplugged all avenues of accountability. World thugs with the smarts to control, know when to fold them. And they also know when to hold them. Western liberal leaders, they have learned, are a welcome green light to escalated thuggery. On a free-for-all basis. I hope Trump is taking close notes of all this. There's no doubt that Iran hates him like no other. And our new open boarders policy is like a gift wrapped liberal invitation to take out liberals top thorny headache. With liberals at the airport posting signs saying "isle 1100 for Trump". Certainly China got inside Trumps front door before. Now it may be easier still. Biden pulling traditional executive privilege from Trump. Nothing stopping him from pulling traditional protections either.

I just saw that South Korea just elected a Conservative leader. Hmm. Could it be that current events bitch slapped them into getting more serious about their situation? Only time will tell. The US conservative ranks have been heavily invaded by RINOs mucking up the works. It would be folly to assume that cant happen anywhere else.

Western media. NY Times. China Has Tools to Help Russia's Economy. None Are Big Enough to Save It.---With crazy stories like that, it's hard to debate with Easterners how screwed up the Western media is. But the reality is, Russians don't pay $20,000 for a gallon of gas. They pay 200 Rubles out of the 50,000 Rubles they earn each month. These facts are also reported in Western media, but buried for now, so the "Russia is ruined" narrative can continue. So Western media is adequate to those with smart minds. The facts are there, but have to be weeded out from the laughable media interpretations. Western media may brag about all these great awards and pulitzers they win. But never forget, the media is awarding itself. Just like Hollywood awards itself Oscars and such. It doesnt mean either of these industries knows squat. They just good at butt wiping each other.

[analogkid6103]

You guys should be sharing torrents

[stts2]

Humanitarian aid. What is that supposed to mean? I saw on my TV that a Jewish group in my town is taking in money donations to send aid to make a difference in Ukraine. They said, Ukrainians need aid to flee and they go in to deliver stuff to aid the dangerous journey out of their cities. Sounds very noble. But it sounds like a bunch of hot air. I will say at the LEAST, the Jewish spokesperson is reading a script and has no direct idea what the donations will do. Because heres the reality as mined from lots of stories on the internet.

Most aid shipped in from around the world is landing at various cities in Poland. So Poland has massive amounts of stuff. Billions and billions in aid available to the millions of refugees in Poland. So the refugees are in great shape. Endless aid to help them start a new life.

But the problem is, not even 10% of the Ukrainians have left. So over 90% are currently getting bombed. They are the ones in serious need of aid. And they are not getting it. Aid convoys are a bottleneck at the Polish border. Because Russia said they would be bombed to stop anti tank missles. So only the bravest of the truck drivers venture into Ukraine for the looooong drive east. The base at the Polish border has already been bombed. And those small convoys are being endlessly roadblocked. So the bottom line is that aid from the hundreds of charities you see on the internet is not making much difference at all. Except to juice up the coffers of all these charities. Only a part of monies gifted is used to buy aid. The rest pays for the salaries, charity cars, charity company digs, etc. So war is good for arms dealers AND charities. And lots of these charities REALLY hit the jackpot on the backs of bleeding hearts.

So dont be fooled. Despite all this "aid", Ukraine is still sinking in deep shit. And every day, it just gets worse for them. Despite the folly of Western liberal positivity. Southern and Northern cities have been siezed and the ports are blocked. Russian soldiers are rounding up lists of people and making them vanish. People like Oleg Baterin of kherson. Vanished after last seen in an area Russian soldiers moved into. People in mass protests in the streets are all gone now. Scared Khersons are saying Russians are looting everything. Post offices, stores, and even raiding peoples homes. Stealing valuables, food and all cell phones. A Kherson named Alexandr is relaying these events. He says some soldiers seem sad. But he said others are acting with criminal motivation. He thinks Russian soldiers are freezing and hungry and driven to steal and hord all they can for their own self survival. That's bad news to hear. Western media been peddling a narrative of a Russian army with no motivation for this fight. It sounds to me like Putin has provided a massive incentive for his army. Win the war or freeze and starve to death.

Thats my speculation based on probable facts that seem true. But there is no question that most communication in the taken cities is now cut off. And the word getting out is that the cities are about out of food and water. Humanitarian aid has been blocked from entering the cities by the Russians. Russian Tass says they have delivered tons of humanitarian aid. But there are no pictures of this or reports from the people. So I suspect the "humanitarian aid" the Russians report is likely for his own starving soldiers. After all, why wouldnt Putin feed and strengthen his own men before helping the people hes been bombing? Only gullible idiots would think otherwise.

Going forwards, the grim reality for Ukraine is going to catch up to the Ukrainians and the rest of the Western world. American Generals saying Putins army will be exhausted in 10 days is laughably wrong. Ukrainians are cut off, for all practical purposes. They are running out of everything. There will soon be nothing left for "gorilla warfare". And the rest of the country will fall like Kherson. With unarmed crowds in the streets climbing on Russian tanks rolling in. Then being dispersed by random Russian fire, so Russians can resupply themselves on the leftovers the cities have left. Then the raping, pillaging, and genocide of the "Nazifiers" can begin. All methodical and highly effective, as unchallenged Russian resupply nails the coffins shut. The final days of a country...

As for all these "False Flags", just call them like they are. Excuses. Putin has no glory. Hes getting older. He wants to be great in history. What better way than to put the USSR back together. A crowning achievement. Never to be forgotten. Thats whats going on here. Only morons could believe otherwise. All this NATO nonsense is just another "false flag". Like nukes or chemical weapons in Ukraine. All to justify the invasion and genocide of a breakaway country.

Well, the excuses are still being used, but are rather moot now. Ukraines fate was sealed long ago when they refused NATO alliance. Now they are being chewed apart by the wolves. It is what it is. So watch your TVs and always remember that freedom aint free. It dont belong to those that fight, it belongs to those that win. The only thing that counts.

[rezwaki]

Clearly this isnt a "Russia" operation, this is a Putin operation.

Can't deny that, probably the most obvious fact

[stts2]

stts2Clearly this isnt a "Russia" operation, this is a Putin operation.Can't deny that, probably the most obvious fact

Well its not my main point. I only wrote that to agree in principle so I could get back to my main point at the time. But the bottom line is that Russia is Putin until the people rise up and haul him out. But that shows no signs of happening. So all the free world wrath is going to blanket all of Russia as retaliation. But even that is of limited scope because Russians are not heavily dependent on the rest of the world. Reminds me of Germany. Germans insisted that it was all Hitlers fault. And they were too scared to stop him. Well history rejected that claim and is actually punishing them still to this day. Germany is the country the world has been obligating to bail out bankrupt PIGS countries. Germany is expressing frustration, but genocide is a stain tough to wash out. Russians all, will be footing the scorn of what goes on in Ukraine. You can bank on it.