stts2's politics thread

[maskaw]

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Did anyone here ever say they were?  They have always been obsessed with anything that shows a chance for them to make more money.

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Like any other news company. I wonder if having them divided it's in fact lucrative for their business. That way you are compelled to watch X sides of the same story for their revenue.

You sound lazy and entitled. Freedom aint free. Reagan lit a fire that GAVE Ukraine freedom. But that was only a temporary gift. It takes hard work and sacrifice to keep that freedom. Ukraine really didnt do squat compared to other countries accomplishments over the last 20 years. Now they got problems keeping that freedom. From what I see, it will take a miracle if Ukraine comes out of this the same as they were last week.

This isn't a question of freedom, integrity, etc. Russia does not want NATO (basically U.S.) right behind its back and it's willing to go to war for that. 'Edging actions' like sanctions from EU will only change people's perception, not Moscow's politics. They're only done for the sake of showing they did it - In reality EU is dependent on Russian's gas/oil.

[stts2]

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Did anyone here ever say they were?  They have always been obsessed with anything that shows a chance for them to make more money.

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Like any other news company. I wonder if having them divided it's in fact lucrative for their business. That way you are compelled to watch X sides of the same story for their revenue.

You sound lazy and entitled. Freedom aint free. Reagan lit a fire that GAVE Ukraine freedom. But that was only a temporary gift. It takes hard work and sacrifice to keep that freedom. Ukraine really didnt do squat compared to other countries accomplishments over the last 20 years. Now they got problems keeping that freedom. From what I see, it will take a miracle if Ukraine comes out of this the same as they were last week.

This isn't a question of freedom, integrity, etc. Russia does not want NATO (basically U.S.) right behind its back and it's willing to go to war for that. 'Edging actions' like sanctions from EU will only change people's perception, not Moscow's politics. They're only done for the sake of showing they did it - In reality EU is dependent on Russian's gas/oil.

Thats not what Im seeing on the TV. Russian citizens are speaking out and protesting the bombing of their own comrades. The Ukraine leader is in full defiance against Putin starting a fight with his people. Clearly this isnt a "Russia" operation, this is a Putin operation. The west didnt invade Russia and organize these protests. Russian people are speaking up for themselves. We are just watching all this and saying here we go again. More invasion to stitch the Soviet Union back together again no matter what their own citizens want. Its a lunatics dream to conquer the world. The next best thing is to conquer the people that were allowed to leave 20 years ago. Its disgusting that lunatics can get away with such cave man behavior. We cant really do squat. Ukraine didnt build up their defenses and they never joined NATO. So we cant help and they cant help themselves. Its going to be a mess as comrades shoot at each other at the orders of lunatic Putin. And its all because we quit in Afghanistan because we tired of being in other countries getting shot at. So NATO being behind anybodies back is just an empty excuse. Putin action is actually pumping new blood into NATO. And thats going to put more squeeze on the Russian people and their cost of living. All because of one lunatic that the Russian people wont do anything about.

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Wow. Russians bring weapons of war and Ukrainians bring bottles of gas. From what I see, Russians should have also brought baseball gloves so they could catch thrown gas bottles and pour them into their empty tanks. Hah. Flash news. Russian actors on FB and Twitter spreading disinformation in Ukrainian accounts to mess with Ukrainians moral. Hah. Russians here too spreading total nonsense on the pirate bay. Reminds me of that Iraqi idiot that was on air saying the Americans were being utterly destroyed as Iraqi solders were doing The Mother Of All Retreats. Bwahahahaha. Thank you Google. Baghdad Bob was that funny guys name. I wonder what hes doing now. Hah.

So I guess its Russian Ricky that invaded PirateBay.

Bummer. Russians blew up the worlds largest Cargo plane Anotov AN-225 Mriya. That probably had alotta gas in it that the Russian could have used. I really dont know whats more feckless. The Russians game plan or the Ukrainians war arsenal. Bravery is steller but suicide is not a great war strategy. I cant see Putin giving up. He enjoys pounding on helpless people.

Well at least one good thing may come out of this tragedy. China gets to see why invading Taiwan would be a very bad idea.

Flash: Kosovo asks for a US base in their country and speedy inclusion into NATO. --- So there you go. None of them were interested in any of that for 20 years. Now all the sudden they all going Hell yea. This whole situation is ALL Putins fault. There was NO NATO threat to Russia. In fact NATO has been cracking like a window pane for the last 4 years. Shrinking in influence for even longer than that. Too much Bickering and nobody is paying their fair share. NOW, NATO is being super charged. Their influence has soared to being top shelf almost overnight. Money is flooding in from all directions. Germany has ramped up weapons production to record levels. The West didnt incite any of this. Putin did all this all by himself. ALL BY HIMSELF. And all he had to do was rule like a lunatic before the world cameras. So the world could see for sure how insane he is. All the lies he was saying to the media. About having exorcises, and being a peace keepers, and only protecting the puppet breakaways. But the cameras were showing the truth. And now the world is quickly rebuilding NATO. Lightning fast. It dont mean Ukraine can be saved, they left their bed unmade for 20 years. It may be too late now for them. All survivors in the country will be rounded up and exported to gulags. And Russian people will be trucked in to claim and rebuild all the land. The vanishing of a people. I dont see much hope of any other outcome. By the time somebody figures out how to import serious war weaponry, it will all land in the hands of Russian invaders. Feckless and sloppy game over.

[SunnySideUp]

       

Only Putin knows why this has to happen. Only Russia can stop it. The world does not dislike Russia or Russians. the world dislikes these actions and the Man than makes this his mission.

[CaptButler]

The both of you sound unhinged.

Your comments are irrational.

And now the gaslighting (as expected).  Straight up RT playbook.


Who is so gross that cannot see this palpable device?
Yet who so bold but says he sees it not?
                                                  -- Shakespeare

[stts2]

Thermo bombs, cluster bombs, endless tanks, quarter million troops, and all for "exercises". Thats what that lunatic was telling the world for a long time. Hes no more than a dictator lunatic. And all the other country leading lunatics are watching this closely on 15 foot TV screens. The world has got some deep problems heading this way. Biden is too feckless to do anything and his bed is as unmade on this as the Ukrainians. Biden talks like things are under control as planned. But Biden has no plan. And so Putin presses on with the dismantling of Ukraine. Putins own people will have to sieze power but Putin is surrounded by killer security. He wont even get within 30 feet of most people. I hope you all pulled your retirement out of investments. Aint no way this is going to be a rosy time for the world. A nuclear power on the rampage. N Korea already has nukes. Obama said he would stop that. We see how that went. Iran is full steam ahead making nukes. Isreal has new feckless leaders. Its unknown if they are in a position to do a huge strike on Irans facilities. But if they do at a time when guns are already blazing, world order will really turn ugly. Hard to say what N Korean would do in a world distracted by unraveling world order. Test set off a nuke at the least. Boy that would really amp things up further. To bad Trump aint here. Turkey went nuts on offense and Trump went nuts getting Erdigon to stop. World lunatics need a lunatic wrangler. Biden sure as hell aint it.

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Biden all lovey dovey on Ukraine like hes the hero. Sayin all this stuff they doin to help Ukraine. huge cheers from the audience. But who is the audience??? Not many Ukrainians. VP hugged a Ukrainian. Ukrainian is sad but greatful. Not because of Bidens speach, but because shes here and not there. Hah. Another Ukrainian thats a parliament member and could speak english was not so greatful. Shes ticked. You know why?? Because they getting free old planes. But nobody figured out what to arm them with. And nobody figured out where they flying too. You see, all the runways are destroyed. All the fueling equipment and the bombs and the bomb loading equipment are destroyed. Ukrainians need a base thats not in Ukraine. And thats a big problem. Nobody wants to be the next target of Putin. And Biden says no American aircraft will be helping. So they are stuck with getting weapons that can only be used by hand. Against thermo and vacuum bombs that are launched miles away and kills everybody for many blocks. So as i was saying before, all this help "flooding" in, but lots of it is like empty help. So Ukraines are looking like a mostly unarmed people against a super power. An inept super power, but even a hillbilly is mighty if his nuke buttons work. Theres alot of blame to go around here, but its all academic to the Ukrainians. There will soon be no more Ukrainians. Just refugees and dying prisoners. I doubt many will make it to gulags alive.

[SunnySideUp]

Thermo bombs, cluster bombs............ its all academic to the Ukrainians. There will soon be no more Ukrainians. Just refugees and dying prisoners. I doubt many will make it to gulags alive.

Sadly I think you are right, just watched an "expert" say Russia could use chemical weapons on Ukrainin civilians and NATO would not respond.... apparently there is no line to be drawn.

as a European, personally, I back NATO intervention, if Russia turns nuclear: so be it.

[stts2]

Thermo bombs, cluster bombs............ its all academic to the Ukrainians. There will soon be no more Ukrainians. Just refugees and dying prisoners. I doubt many will make it to gulags alive.

Sadly I think you are right, just watched an "expert" say Russia could use chemical weapons on Ukrainin civilians and NATO would not respond.... apparently there is no line to be drawn.

as a European, personally, I back NATO intervention, if Russia turns nuclear: so be it.

Its sad but the Ukrainians did it to themselves. They were given freedom by American pressure on Gorbachev. They knew Russia could never be trusted. Especially after Yeltsin did his coup. Then Putin did his coup. Then Putin invaded Georgia and Crimea. In all that time, 20 years, Ukrainians did little to build up a serious army. Instead they elected liberals with closed eyes and insane predictions. Like Putin would never invade. With their country of rich resources, they couldnt figure out how to grow their GDP. So they raised cash by selling off their military equipment to third world countries. Boom. Now they been invaded. Now its too late for everything. We no longer hear about whats going on in Afghanistan. Thats because the Taliban have closed all lines of communications. So the resistors are no doubt being exterminated. And the world has turned a blind eye. Putin saw this and learned. He will silence the resistors one way or the other after he cuts off all lines of communications in Ukraine. And loyal Russians will get free property and resources to rebuild Ukraine in Putins image. Russian dissent will fade as news of all the free stuff they are getting spreads. And the refuges will be somebody elses problem. The EU sanctioned 7 of 350 Russian banks. We still buy Russian oil. And most Russian Vodka is actually made in America. So the loud world response was actually pretty empty. Thats why Putin will continue. Iran, North Korea, and China are watching. I suspect Taiwan is now in serious trouble as a sovereign nation. If China attacks, again, Biden will bark about sanctions, and again claim that no American guns will be fired. So the real question our leaders should be asking is why not invade. N Korean may be too poor to invade. But there is nothing to stop China.

As far as NATO intervention, its not going to happen. That requires a vote of too many nations. They will never all agree. Especially since Ukraine never could decide to join NATO. The last president that was seriously interested in joining NATO was Yushchenko in 2008. But the next president Yanukovych scuttled the idea in 2010. NATO requires member countries to build up their militaries to minimal NATO standards before entry. But too many liberal parliament members whined about the cost and declared Russian aggression as just fear mongering. Today is now too late.

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Another big hit the media brag about is what Biden did to the Russian economy with all his "sanctions". The media brags that the Ruble has plunged a hundred fold from the Dollar. Eayyiyi. But what does that really mean? It means that a Russian buying an American car will now have to pony up 100 times more to get it. Sounds like a really nasty situation. The problem is that Russians dont run their lives on the dollar. They use the ruble. And a loaf of bread still costs them 100 rubles. Sounds ugly till you realize that average Russian salaries are 56,000 rubles a month. So this so called economic hit the media talks about is a head scratcher to the average Russian citizen. So there is no incentive for the citizens to rise up and revolt. Like starvation and disease. By contrast, gas in America is soaring towards all time highs. So you got to wonder what in the hell is the media talking about? Well, its the Biden media love fest thats going on. Or more broadly, the liberal media love fest. If this were a Trump administration doing all this, you would no doubt be hearing that its Americans and not Russians that doing all the suffering in this invasion. In time after Ukraine is taken over by Russians, half the country will be plowed under to grow crops. Ukraine is rich in farmable land. That will in time further lower food costs. They are also rich in nuclear fuel. That will in time lower energy costs with more nuclear power plants. Russia doesnt have the same red tape on reactor building that America has. Ukraine also has huge stocks of Lithium and other raw materials the Russians will steal. So Russians over time are going to be inheriting a huge windfall in general costs of living. So all the western saber rattling is in no way going to be incentive for the average Russian to demand changes of any kind. Putin is smart, just as Trump has said. Hes keeping his people fed. And thats going to keep him in power. And China is more than willing to buy all the Russian energy that others choose to refuse. So instead of watching the western media laughing at the stalled Russian convoy heading to the capital, the Ukrainians need to use this last opportunity to get the hell out with all due haste. Because you only live once and Russians are there to take all there is and run over anybody in the way. Ukraine, the portrait of liberal policy incompetence. "Dont Worry, Be Happy" is a song written for fools.

[Q91]

Noticed how the Russia love toy has stopped posting?

[stts2]

Noticed how the Russia love toy has stopped posting? 

Yea, hes got nothing except more useless jibber jabber propaganda. He really dont know whats going on. Just carpet bombing with useless news. Whats really interesting is the EU voting to give 3 year asylum to all Ukrainians. Thats amazing. A million have left so far. So theres 49 million to go. They need to leave ASAP. They have a safe haven waiting on them. But Im afraid that they got brainwashed by their inept leaders. Time will fix everything. Dont worry be happy. Thats why I mentioned that song. People now worship Zelinski. But he was a total putz as a leader. A liberal with rose colored glasses on. Didnt want weapons and NATO. Till Russia started camping at his border. Even then saying Russia is just bluffing. So people are staying behind. Even though theres no more government issue guns. Thinking Zelinski will save them and their lifes savings. And its going to lead to epic tragedy. Or maybe not. Is it tragedy if the world never sees it? People saw those Afghans falling off the plane in the air. Thats pretty tragic. But world reaction has already faded. Because Liberal Biden is president. The liberal media is bent on painting his leadership as a god send. So Ukraine tragedy will be just as quickly rewritten as Liberal triumph. Somehow, using crazy imagination to fool and brainwash. No matter how many intransigent Ukrainians disappear into mass graves. No doubt Zelinski will be murdered. Its just ashame that he will be bringing lots of company. All part of the crazy world we live in. Craziness all around us. Nobodies hands are clean...

This reminds me of the Jim Jones cult of like 40 years ago. He gathered his people around him and said we will stop the infidels at the gates of heaven. Then he and his people drank the coolaid. Well, I dont know how many infidels they all stopped, but he left a tragic mess that others had to clean up in Guyana. And it was labeled evil because US lawmakers were coming after him. Now we got an inept leader rallying followers with gasoline bottles to fight a super power lead by a heavily armed lunatic. So we got a lunatic fighting a lunatic. Thats what Im seeing. One is crazy because hes too stupid to know any better, and the other is crazy because hes just a criminal to the core. So you root for the lessor of 2 evils. What a lousy choice. And looking like a tragedy set to be repeated by other lunatics.

[stts2]

Sunday liberal political news.The world is unfair and somebody do something. Same ole whining. Zelinski demanding NATO do no fly zone. He doesnt care if it starts nuclear WW3. Actually he probably thinks it just will never happen. Just like Russian invasion will never happen. From the west point of view, liberals are free to think as they wish. But when you put liberals in charge, the irresponsibility of their thinking gets people killed all around them. A US woman basketball player takes her sweet time getting out of Russia. Aint no way shes leaving her Reefer vaping stash behind. Tsk tsk. Russians at the airport sieze her stash and lock her up. Such an outrage. Its her right to Reefer her brains out. How dare they. Now we gonna hear the whining from round the world. Somebody please save my liberal entitled ass from this inhumane injustice. Good luck with that, stupid bimbo. I refuse to allow any of my tax dollars to be used for saving your butt. Liberals need to pay for the irresponsible choices they make. And the world needs to be thankfull that NATO is not run by liberals. Or we all would be facing WW3. Its tragic whats going on in Ukraine. But they reap what they sowed.

The stupid woman Ukrainian Abasador to US is on Face The Nation saying we are a peaceful nation no threat to anybody and its unfair that they are being attacked. She says because of this, America needs to give them Billions of dollars in weapons so they can fight back. Pathetic stupidity. Ukraine is a rich country. Lunatics attack and steal riches all the time. Its the same as me saying Im opening a peoples peaceful bank. So I have no need for locks or safes or guards. I am everybodies friend and nobody would even think of robbing the peoples bank. The Ambasador said herself that they have known since 1991 that Russia was a threat. So its national malpractice that they sold off their army instead of keeping it strong. I say we already GAVE them too much. In fact I think if we stop giving them weapons, then the rest of the people will decide to leave sooner, saving more lives. Russia is already stealing the country. Nothing will turn that around. Its been 70 years and Isreal hasnt given back any country. So behold the rebirth of the USSR. Those breakaways should have joined NATO...