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#1
Yup. Who would have thunk. Russian propaganda being spread all over the world. But here too???? Dang. Opinions are one thing. But carpet bombing threads in a place like this is just comical to say the least. Theres no way all that trash is going to get me to stop torrenting. Because thats all Im going to do when I come here. Can you imagine finding somebody that will say he came here to find a link and left to go jihad with the Russians. Hah.
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#2
(Feb 25, 2022, 23:51 pm)stts2 Wrote: Yup. Who would have thunk. Russian propaganda being spread all over the world. But here too???? Dang. Opinions are one thing. But carpet bombing threads in a place like this is just comical to say the least. Theres no way all that trash is going to get me to stop torrenting. Because thats all Im going to do when I come here. Can you imagine finding somebody that will say he came here to find a link and left to go jihad with the Russians. Hah.


There is nothing laughable about the current Russian-Ukrainian situation and there is nothing laughable about censorship.

Many of the points provided here on the Russian-Ukrainian situation are not covered by the "mainstream" Western establishment news sources. That is a question that should concern you if you uphold the idea of free access to information and you are against censorship.

The worst from the "mainstream" Western establishment news sources isn't just the omissions, the spin, or the fabrications, but also the biases (always anti-Russian, always Pro-Israeli). The most poisonous bias of all is that they expect you to believe that everything that comes from them is the gospel truth and that any information beyond their sphere of influence is questionable, "fake news" or propaganda. Of course, the US, UK, and others never release fabrications or propaganda - no, never - their hands are clean of that dirty business.

Western establishment news sources are not the arbiter of truth.

If you spent less time on your "torrents" and more time focused on the people spoon-feeding you information and shaping your perceptions, perhaps these revelations might dawn on you.
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#3
(Feb 26, 2022, 01:47 am)Resurgence Wrote: Western establishment news sources are not the arbiter of truth.

Did anyone here ever say they were?  They have always been obsessed with anything that shows a chance for them to make more money.

That being said, there is even less reason to trust in the niagara of lies pumped out by the russobots of Pooty-poot's Haxorz 'n' Warmongerz Klub.  That can only lead you farther away from the truth.
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#4
(Feb 26, 2022, 12:57 pm)CaptButler Wrote:
(Feb 26, 2022, 01:47 am)Resurgence Wrote: Western establishment news sources are not the arbiter of truth.

That being said, there is even less reason to trust in the niagara of lies pumped out by the russobots of Pooty-poot's Haxorz 'n' Warmongerz Klub.  That can only lead you farther away from the truth.


Your anger should be directed at the ones who led you to feel hostility toward Russia, who doggedly censor the information that is in your purview, who tell you they are fair and balanced, who toy with the truth in-between the ad spam.
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#5
(Feb 26, 2022, 01:47 am)Resurgence Wrote:
(Feb 25, 2022, 23:51 pm)stts2 Wrote: Yup. Who would have thunk. Russian propaganda being spread all over the world. But here too???? Dang. Opinions are one thing. But carpet bombing threads in a place like this is just comical to say the least. Theres no way all that trash is going to get me to stop torrenting. Because thats all Im going to do when I come here. Can you imagine finding somebody that will say he came here to find a link and left to go jihad with the Russians. Hah.


There is nothing laughable about the current Russian-Ukrainian situation and there is nothing laughable about censorship.

Many of the points provided here on the Russian-Ukrainian situation are not covered by the "mainstream" Western establishment news sources. That is a question that should concern you if you uphold the idea of free access to information and you are against censorship.

The worst from the "mainstream" Western establishment news sources isn't just the omissions, the spin, or the fabrications, but also the biases (always anti-Russian, always Pro-Israeli). The most poisonous bias of all is that they expect you to believe that everything that comes from them is the gospel truth and that any information beyond their sphere of influence is questionable, "fake news" or propaganda. Of course, the US, UK, and others never release fabrications or propaganda - no, never - their hands are clean of that dirty business.

Western establishment news sources are not the arbiter of truth.

If you spent less time on your "torrents" and more time focused on the people spoon-feeding you information and shaping your perceptions, perhaps these revelations might dawn on you.

Hah. Your hopelessly drunk on the tainted coolaid. Media everywhere is totally laughable. But it is possible to sift out the truthfull bits from western media to piece together the true picture. But there isnt an ounce of useful truth in Russian, Middle east, and Chinese propaganda. Thats why they call these Dictators. They Dictate what can and cant be said. Its a shame whats going on, but a Comedian has been running Ukraine. So there has been no realistic effert to build up a force capable of any kind of defense against Russia. So if Putin seriously drops the hammer, Ukraine is history. No matter who is crazy. So Ukraine better hope the Russian troops have little stomack to kill their former countrymen. Because thats the only hope they have. Thats the reality no matter what anybodies media prints. Now, back to file sharing.

Oh, there is another situation very similar to this thats going on. China and Taiwan. But theres a big difference. Taiwan has real political leaders. As such they been working very hard to become a very powerful nation. They are no where near as big as Ukraine but I bet they could kick Ukraines butt too in a fight. They too stand to loose a fight with China. But it will be a fierce shooting match with epic armaments before its over. Not just a few missles into a few apartment buildings. It will be top trained profesionals on both sides.
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#6
Quote:But there isnt an ounce of useful truth in Russian, Middle east, and Chinese propaganda.


That is clearly a false statement.

You are exhibiting exactly what I mentioned earlier - that anything beyond Western establishment media is considered questionable, fake news or propaganda.

A plurality of voices is desparately needed in an age of increasing censorship.

It is your own choice to self-censor if you wish, but I wouldn't advise it.
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#7
(Feb 26, 2022, 19:50 pm)Resurgence Wrote:
Quote:But there isnt an ounce of useful truth in Russian, Middle east, and Chinese propaganda.


That is clearly a false statement.

You are exhibiting exactly what I mentioned earlier - that anything beyond Western establishment media is considered questionable, fake news or propaganda.

A plurality of voices is desparately needed in an age of increasing censorship.

It is your own choice to self-censor if you wish, but I wouldn't advise it.

Hah. YOU are bringing up WESTERN. That has nothing to do with Russian Propaganda. WESTERN media has its own problems. But that doesnt give Russia a free pass to pump out fake news. Or anybody else. I am tired of Russian leaders saying we can do it because the west does it. Why cant they do their own thing instead of trying to imitate us? Its always a contest between east and west. Its absurd. And it gets people killed. Its so useless. But when a criminal tyrant is shooting big guns, he cant be ignored. Something must be done about lunatic behavior. So until a decision is made, weaker people and forces are going to be crushed. Its what happens in these situations. Its just too bad Ukraine didnt spend the last 20 years becoming strong like North Korea did. Then they wouldnt be in this mess now. Being kicked and pounded by the big bully. Ukraines wasted opportunity.
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#8
(Feb 26, 2022, 16:29 pm)Resurgence Wrote:
(Feb 26, 2022, 12:57 pm)CaptButler Wrote:
(Feb 26, 2022, 01:47 am)Resurgence Wrote: Western establishment news sources are not the arbiter of truth.

That being said, there is even less reason to trust in the niagara of lies pumped out by the russobots of Pooty-poot's Haxorz 'n' Warmongerz Klub.  That can only lead you farther away from the truth.


Your anger should be directed at the ones who led you to feel hostility toward Russia, who doggedly censor the information that is in your purview, who tell you they are fair and balanced, who toy with the truth in-between the ad spam.

Well and truly spoken like a RT public affairs director, which for aught I know you are (it would explain a lot).
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#9
The both of you sound unhinged.

Your comments are irrational.
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#10
(Feb 26, 2022, 21:47 pm)Resurgence Wrote: The both of you sound unhinged.

Your comments are irrational.

You sound lazy and entitled. Freedom aint free. Reagan lit a fire that GAVE Ukraine freedom. But that was only a temporary gift. It takes hard work and sacrifice to keep that freedom. Ukraine really didnt do squat compared to other countries accomplishments over the last 20 years. Now they got problems keeping that freedom. From what I see, it will take a miracle if Ukraine comes out of this the same as they were last week.
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