Windows 10 Might Soon Track Absolutely Everything You Do for Your Own Good

[dueda]

Just out of curiosity, is the same stuff happening to Windows 7 too?
If it doesn't, I simply install Windows 7 and disable "Automatic Updates" service. I am very glad to announce a known fact by some people: Windows can run perfectly well without updates.

Just found out Diagnostics Tracking Service on my machine. It is happening with all versions since Windows 7 for a while now, possibly XP too.
Got the darn thing without even knowing; while inspecting memory usage by svchost (MS' blanket app), need Process Explorer for that.

Optional KB 3022345 installs the Diagnostics Tracking Service, which displays an EULA pop-up and allows users to confirm or opt out; also it can be disabled at the services control panel (which must be invoked by typing at the Start menu search box).

I don't install optionals (and even a couple recommended) unless a few handpicked ones, and don't remember it asking to install and even less to monitor me.

NOTE

1. The update will be quiet (no pop up or warning what so ever) if done via the WU pick list or automatic modes. No warning I can recall.
2. Recent updates on the WU packaging may have embedded the thing into a "roll out" or "cumulative" bunch, discreetly. 3022345 itself is not in my history.

IN SHORT

It is infiltrated by MS without notice and it monitors who knows how much you do with the PC. Blatant spyware.

[ddoking007]

Just out of curiosity, is the same stuff happening to Windows 7 too?
If it doesn't, I simply install Windows 7 and disable "Automatic Updates" service. I am very glad to announce a known fact by some people: Windows can run perfectly well without updates.

Just found out Diagnostics Tracking Service on my machine. It is happening with all versions since Windows 7 for a while now, possibly XP too.
Got the darn thing without even knowing; while inspecting memory usage by svchost (MS' blanket app), need Process Explorer for that.

Optional KB 3022345 installs the Diagnostics Tracking Service, which displays an EULA pop-up and allows users to confirm or opt out; also it can be disabled at the services control panel (which must be invoked by typing at the Start menu search box).

I don't install optionals (and even a couple recommended) unless a few handpicked ones, and don't remember it asking to install and even less to monitor me.

NOTE

1. The update will be quiet (no pop up or warning what so ever) if done via the WU pick list or automatic modes. No warning I can recall.
2. Recent updates on the WU packaging may have embedded the thing into a "roll out" or "cumulative" bunch, discreetly. 3022345 itself is not in my history.

IN SHORT

It is infiltrated by MS without notice and it monitors who knows how much you do with the PC. Blatant spyware.

I don't see it on mine so I don't know where to look for it....

[dueda]

If you don't see the KB 3022345 in WU history, check for "services - diagnostics tracking" and disable it. May need to type "services" in Start Menu search box.
AFAIK, if not seen in the services list, you're ok.

[compnerd03]

You know you can disable telemetry in Services right? Just go into services and look for "Compatibility Telemetry" and disable it.

[waregim]

Go to Blackviper's site (google it) and disable the 'services' recommended . You may want to disable the services at bootup in a batch script if you enable 'updates' (I dont).

Be aware that M$ communicates apparently via VPN, as hosts files are ignored. I would disable all the VPN related stuff and protocols, and only use a VPN service that allows OpenVPN (which does not use the M$ crap).

Disable BITS and *all* remote related functions except RPC. Not on Win now, so cannot give a more comprehensive list.

However AFIK, no one has ever been able to definitively isolate and stop ALL M$ backdoors.

[RodneyYouPlonker]

Windows 10 Might Soon Track Absolutely Everything You Do for Your Own Good?

don't you mean?

Windows 10 does Track absolutely everything you do for your own good?

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Windows 10 Might Soon Track Absolutely Everything You Do for Your Own Good?

don't you mean?

Windows 10 does Track absolutely everything you do for your own good?

It was doing right from the very beginning, however if you know what you're doing then what does it really matter?  A simple search on youtube and that is how you solve that one.

^ sorry messed that one up then, hit the wrong button...

[lahabo]

Hey everyone, just pitching in.
Imo the proper way to handle this is with a restrictive firewall.
If you remove the affected modules with third party tools you will permanently lose those, then if you find out you forgot to install something system specific you might find yourself unable to install it. (happened to me with net framework 2.0)
If you have your network locked both ways (inbound and outbound) you achieve the same results, but if one day you notice something missing you can temporarily disable the curtail and install it without issues.

Of course if what you are doing is privacy-critical, like exposing government corruption, you should just forget about microsoft altoghether and install something a little more reliable lol

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However AFIK, no one has ever been able to definitively isolate and stop ALL M$ backdoors.

That's because it's functionally impossible to block all outbound connections without effectively cutting yourself off from network access.
If microsoft decided to go full blackhat on this subject they could exfiltrate data through handcrafted domain name resolution queries addressed to a specific server prepared to process them. You get up to 255 bytes to work with (refer to rfc 1035) and that's more than enough to build a spyware upon, expecially if you are literally the operating system and you can run it with whatever permissions you want.

Since you can't enstablish a connection without name resolution, you wouldn't be able to stop microsoft if microsoft were 100% serious about spying on you.

[waregim]

I dont know why name resolutions would even be considered for telemetry. Just use hard coded numerical addresses. Avoid DNS entirely.

Question is whether any form of firewall can isolate telemetry from the 'normal' network services. Can they protect against ICMP tunneling?

[limitless369]

Wait? I thought MS has colletion information about us ever since Windows XP?

Gosh darn it, I should've bought a tinfoil hate ages ago!

Now days you are suppose to make a Orgonite matrix magneto helmet tho... the tinfoil is used for EMP proofed boxes full of lots of nice stuff Big Grin

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Real note, the only problem isnt only operating system you also have to worry about actual black box chips inside microprocessors now days and back doors into our phones

[waregim]

I use 2006-7 era processors from before they went whole hog on 'hidden cores' and other crapola.

Ideally, we want chinese chips, which I understand they are just starting to produce for the commercial market. Richard Stallman had a chinese laptop with all OPEN SOURCE hardware, but it might be lacking in SSE instructions. Still useful if runnimg Emacs as OS front end....


Indeed the problem is that if the nutjobs finally get their global war to feed the Vampire Squid, then we can expect full cyber war, with every attempt to shut down and/or control our machines. On a global basis that is.

Should tensions get high, the Win10 laptop is going into an unplugged, but grounded microwave.