VPN and my copyright problem.
#1
Ok I've gotten 2 copyright notices from HBO (The Deuce) and in both cases I was using a VPN.

The 1st time I used Windscribe and I just figured that they must be keeping logs.
The 2nd time I used PrivateVPN and they made it clear that the give zero information.

Because of the 1st notice I made absolutely sure that everything was set up properly and working.  I even checked everything several times and checked that my IP address had indeed changed to that of the VPN.    BUT.... I still got the 2nd copyright notice from HBO.


Is it possible that HBO has some sort of way to track their shows and defeat the use of a VPN?
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#2
Look at who you got the notice from. If it came from your ISP, then your torrent client wasn't using the VPN.

No new magic tracking.
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#3
In theory.
Watermarking like in Cinavia isn't new, but don't recall HBO doing it. Probably the set-up box is part of the process, the stream is sent to a lot of users and many will be watching it at a time, so an unique ID should be added at the client side. They may have a bogus IP from VPN, but they would be able to get your box or your account number on the copies you made.
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(Nov 12, 2018, 21:44 pm)dueda Wrote: In theory.
Watermarking like in Cinavia isn't new, but don't recall HBO doing it. Probably the set-up box is part of the process, the stream is sent to a lot of users and many will be watching it at a time, so an unique ID should be added at the client side. They may have a bogus IP from VPN, but they would be able to get your box or your account number on the copies you made.


Not really relevant.

If it were watermarked, which it isn't, it would have markings unique to whoever the subscriber who's source was used to create it, not who downloaded it.

And if they were going after whoever created it, it wouldn't be with a copyright infringement notice sent through their ISP.
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(Nov 12, 2018, 21:05 pm)soulcity Wrote: Because of the 1st notice I made absolutely sure that everything was set up properly and working.  I even checked everything several times and checked that my IP address had indeed changed to that of the VPN.    BUT.... I still got the 2nd copyright notice from HBO.

VPNs can be unreliable and disconnect on you without you realizing it.  You should probably use your firewall to restrict traffic thru your torrent client when you are disconnected from your VPN.
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#6
Yes, I just couldn't figure details by the OP's text.
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#7
Also, some clients allow you to bind the client directly to the VPN interface so it won't even try to used anything but the VPN. I use Vuze in this fashion, but I am sure others can do the same.
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(Nov 13, 2018, 10:09 am)neanderthal Wrote:
(Nov 12, 2018, 21:05 pm)soulcity Wrote: Because of the 1st notice I made absolutely sure that everything was set up properly and working.  I even checked everything several times and checked that my IP address had indeed changed to that of the VPN.    BUT.... I still got the 2nd copyright notice from HBO.

VPNs can be unreliable and disconnect on you without you realizing it.  You should probably use your firewall to restrict traffic thru your torrent client when you are disconnected from your VPN.

But most of the paid VPNs offer kill switch option, so when your VPN disconnects, your internet connection disappears as well and your IP address stays safe. Although, you often have to activate it on your own. I had to manually turn it on in the NordVPN settings. But never had any leakage problems.
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#9
(Nov 12, 2018, 21:29 pm)Moe Wrote: Look at who you got the notice from.  If it came from your ISP, then your torrent client wasn't using the VPN.

No new magic tracking.

I double checked and it's not from my ISP.  It came from copyrightviolations [at] hbo [dot] com.

(Nov 13, 2018, 10:09 am)neanderthal Wrote:
(Nov 12, 2018, 21:05 pm)soulcity Wrote: Because of the 1st notice I made absolutely sure that everything was set up properly and working.  I even checked everything several times and checked that my IP address had indeed changed to that of the VPN.    BUT.... I still got the 2nd copyright notice from HBO.

VPNs can be unreliable and disconnect on you without you realizing it.  You should probably use your firewall to restrict traffic thru your torrent client when you are disconnected from your VPN.
I had/have my firewall running each time I enable the VPN. 

To the best of my knowledge I've done everything right.
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(Nov 14, 2018, 21:12 pm)soulcity Wrote:
(Nov 12, 2018, 21:29 pm)Moe Wrote: Look at who you got the notice from.  If it came from your ISP, then your torrent client wasn't using the VPN.

No new magic tracking.

I double checked and it's not from my ISP.  It came from copyrightviolations [at] hbo [dot] com.


And you are quite sure that they are the ones who addressed it to you, and it was not forwarded to you from your ISP, or your VPN provider?
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