To encoders: Please go back to AVI container

[RobertX]

Altair1911, you can always rip DVD content from libraries to AVI/XVID/DIVX files, you know.

It's not too late.

[Altair1911]

@dueda: I'm not looking to burn any MPEG-4 to DVD. My complaint was that some uploaders are using strange AVI containers that won't play on standalone DVD players with USB/MPEG-4 support (AVI)

@theSEMAR: My father has two analog to digital converters with USB/MPEG-4 support but I couldnt play the most common files. It has an update option but there's no website for the brand haha. The model you showed me It's pretty interesting, glad It's working for you.

@RobertX: I used to convert/burn documentaries on the Pentium 4 but It was around 8 hours. I burned all the stuff I wanted before It was gone. I can't keep doing that and I don't even have a DVD burner anymore.

Anyway, I think we deviate a bit from the main "issue" which is "why not stick with true MPEG-4 If uploaders are still using AVI". ETRG still does true MPEG-4 with the latest DVD rips so kudos to him. It's just that he can't keep up with everything and I'm pretty sure he respects the other uploader work so there's no point in creating another version.

Example: he didn't even tried to create a 700mb versión of Brightburn (2019).

As entitled as I can sound I'm pretty sure this is an issue for many people with legacy stuff and entry level DVD/USB players. But If there's no chance to stick with true MPEG-4 on years to come, well we will manage to get a $60 bluray somewhere on a near future.

Thanks for the feedback guys.

[Altair1911]

Took his time but there It is:
https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/3429326....XViD-ETRG

ETRG FTW!

[RobertX]

Glad you found what you're looking for.

[rezwaki]

well, i understand that h265 is much better than h264, and i wouldnt write this cuz on my home pc (2.7ghz 2core x64 + simple 1gb videocard) h265 1080p/2K works fine, but when im outta home (vacation or something) i have to use an ancient acer laptop (1.3ghz 1core x86 + integrated 64mb videocard)

it can barely handle h264 720p (lags when im doing something else on the background)
but h265, oh man... thats a damn slideshow

that's not so bad while there are plenty of h264 movies, but i think sooner or later h264 will cease away, and then i would have to convert movies on my own, using my beloved VLC

[RodneyYouPlonker]

well, i understand that h265 is much better than h264

h265 only has any real advantage when you are working with 4K video.  There's no point in using h265 unless you are working with video that has been copied from a 4K disc.  If you are copying from a 2K disc, a lot like I do, then really you should remain using h264 as that is what the 2K disc was originally encoded in.  As a general rule you should never modify the codec as you are wasting your time doing that as there is no advantage by trying to encode with h265, there's no advantage at all other than you'll end up with a movie that takes nearly 4 times longer to encode and process.  I don't know why people do this a lot especially on TPB but they should stop really but people should only use h265 for when they are uploading 4K video.  If somebody takes 2K video and tries to encode it with h265 codec then it proves they have no idea what they doing and to officially upload a video to TPB there are no rules or requirements that are needed to carry out the job, it just means they can do it but it doesn't mean it is correct more just unexperienced that's all.

[rezwaki]

well, i understand that h265 is much better than h264

h265 only has any real advantage when you are working with 4K video.  There's no point in using h265 unless you are working with video that has been copied from a 4K disc.  If you are copying from a 2K disc, a lot like I do, then really you should remain using h264 as that is what the 2K disc was originally encoded in.  As a general rule you should never modify the codec as you are wasting your time doing that as there is no advantage by trying to encode with h265, there's no advantage at all other than you'll end up with a movie that takes nearly 4 times longer to encode and process.  I don't know why people do this a lot especially on TPB but they should stop really but people should only use h265 for when they are uploading 4K video.  If somebody takes 2K video and tries to encode it with h265 codec then it proves they have no idea what they doing and to officially upload a video to TPB there are no rules or requirements that are needed to carry out the job, it just means they can do it but it doesn't mean it is correct more just unexperienced that's all.

i thought the main advantage of h265 before h264 is the compression method? i saw one web-site (hevcbay) with h265 encodes of 720/1080p of 300-700mb filesize, even though quality was more blurry & less detailed compared to h264 release, i think someone might pick these "compact" h265 releases
personally i will stick to h264 for as long as possible, since difference between 500mb and 1gb is not fatal for me, and it's worth sharpness

[RodneyYouPlonker]

well, i understand that h265 is much better than h264

h265 only has any real advantage when you are working with 4K video.  There's no point in using h265 unless you are working with video that has been copied from a 4K disc.  If you are copying from a 2K disc, a lot like I do, then really you should remain using h264 as that is what the 2K disc was originally encoded in.  As a general rule you should never modify the codec as you are wasting your time doing that as there is no advantage by trying to encode with h265, there's no advantage at all other than you'll end up with a movie that takes nearly 4 times longer to encode and process.  I don't know why people do this a lot especially on TPB but they should stop really but people should only use h265 for when they are uploading 4K video.  If somebody takes 2K video and tries to encode it with h265 codec then it proves they have no idea what they doing and to officially upload a video to TPB there are no rules or requirements that are needed to carry out the job, it just means they can do it but it doesn't mean it is correct more just unexperienced that's all.

i thought the main advantage of h265 before h264 is the compression method? i saw one web-site (hevcbay) with h265 encodes of 720/1080p of 300-700mb filesize, even though quality was more blurry & less detailed compared to h264 release, i think someone might pick these "compact" h265 releases
personally i will stick to h264 for as long as possible, since difference between 500mb and 1gb is not fatal for me, and it's worth sharpness

Well this is just it really, there's plenty bandwidth going around at the moment and people are uploading in large and massive scales.  The difference in size is more a petty argument and sometimes you're better if the size is a bit bigger as you'll get a nicer quality it's just how it is.  I did once try encoding a movie using h265 and low and behold it took forever to process and such a ball ache of a job waiting and waiting and on a very fast and powerful PC also.  On the other hand you can use h264 and have the movie encoded and done in maximum about 2 hours and then have it uploaded to TPB and on the net in no time.  Simply waiting for h265 you wait forever to lose just a little bit of size it's just so silly.  I was looking at more around 9 hours for something which had no advantage at all and you simply made no improvements.  There's lots of people download h264 encoded torrents all the time and it is still very popular.

[CaptButler]

well, i understand that h265 is much better than h264

h265 only has any real advantage when you are working with 4K video.  There's no point in using h265 unless you are working with video that has been copied from a 4K disc.  If you are copying from a 2K disc, a lot like I do, then really you should remain using h264 as that is what the 2K disc was originally encoded in.  As a general rule you should never modify the codec as you are wasting your time doing that as there is no advantage by trying to encode with h265, there's no advantage at all other than you'll end up with a movie that takes nearly 4 times longer to encode and process.  I don't know why people do this a lot especially on TPB but they should stop really but people should only use h265 for when they are uploading 4K video.  If somebody takes 2K video and tries to encode it with h265 codec then it proves they have no idea what they doing and to officially upload a video to TPB there are no rules or requirements that are needed to carry out the job, it just means they can do it but it doesn't mean it is correct more just unexperienced that's all.

i thought the main advantage of h265 before h264 is the compression method? i saw one web-site (hevcbay) with h265 encodes of 720/1080p of 300-700mb filesize, even though quality was more blurry & less detailed compared to h264 release, i think someone might pick these "compact" h265 releases
personally i will stick to h264 for as long as possible, since difference between 500mb and 1gb is not fatal for me, and it's worth sharpness

Well this is just it really, there's plenty bandwidth going around at the moment and people are uploading in large and massive scales.  The difference in size is more a petty argument and sometimes you're better if the size is a bit bigger as you'll get a nicer quality it's just how it is.  I did once try encoding a movie using h265 and low and behold it took forever to process and such a ball ache of a job waiting and waiting and on a very fast and powerful PC also.  On the other hand you can use h264 and have the movie encoded and done in maximum about 2 hours and then have it uploaded to TPB and on the net in no time.  Simply waiting for h265 you wait forever to lose just a little bit of size it's just so silly.  I was looking at more around 9 hours for something which had no advantage at all and you simply made no improvements.  There's lots of people download h264 encoded torrents all the time and it is still very popular.

^^^
This

[rezwaki]

well, i understand that h265 is much better than h264

h265 only has any real advantage when you are working with 4K video.  There's no point in using h265 unless you are working with video that has been copied from a 4K disc.  If you are copying from a 2K disc, a lot like I do, then really you should remain using h264 as that is what the 2K disc was originally encoded in.  As a general rule you should never modify the codec as you are wasting your time doing that as there is no advantage by trying to encode with h265, there's no advantage at all other than you'll end up with a movie that takes nearly 4 times longer to encode and process.  I don't know why people do this a lot especially on TPB but they should stop really but people should only use h265 for when they are uploading 4K video.  If somebody takes 2K video and tries to encode it with h265 codec then it proves they have no idea what they doing and to officially upload a video to TPB there are no rules or requirements that are needed to carry out the job, it just means they can do it but it doesn't mean it is correct more just unexperienced that's all.

i thought the main advantage of h265 before h264 is the compression method? i saw one web-site (hevcbay) with h265 encodes of 720/1080p of 300-700mb filesize, even though quality was more blurry & less detailed compared to h264 release, i think someone might pick these "compact" h265 releases
personally i will stick to h264 for as long as possible, since difference between 500mb and 1gb is not fatal for me, and it's worth sharpness

Well this is just it really, there's plenty bandwidth going around at the moment and people are uploading in large and massive scales.  The difference in size is more a petty argument and sometimes you're better if the size is a bit bigger as you'll get a nicer quality it's just how it is.  I did once try encoding a movie using h265 and low and behold it took forever to process and such a ball ache of a job waiting and waiting and on a very fast and powerful PC also.  On the other hand you can use h264 and have the movie encoded and done in maximum about 2 hours and then have it uploaded to TPB and on the net in no time.  Simply waiting for h265 you wait forever to lose just a little bit of size it's just so silly.  I was looking at more around 9 hours for something which had no advantage at all and you simply made no improvements.  There's lots of people download h264 encoded torrents all the time and it is still very popular.

yeah, h265 might take very long to encode, but i dont think it matters very much to the consumer
if there are no other releases but h265 & im on my home pc, i'll download it and watch, or if im using that laptop i'll convert it to h264 using VLC and remote desktop connection (dont want to overload this weak laptop by conversion)

conversion becomes easier cuz i have the second 24/7-on PC in my house with Windows remote desktop connection enabled (opened port+static ip), i use it for different purposes, including some routine tasks like conversion or video-rendering, especially if im not home

so the only problem with that "h265 and the laptop" thing is it takes about the runtime of the movie to convert it, luckily for me im not outta home very often

i know that h264 is still popular, and i meself prefer using h264, cuz of:
1. quality/size ratio, what's still not bad (i use YTS as the main source of movies)
2. low CPU/GPU usage compared to h265, which is vital if im using that ancient laptop
but when i have no choice, i'll pick a h265 release (for example tv shows, which aint being released by YTS)