Of all the things to be called a racist for...

[Carjacker]

That's where I get off, ill88eagle, no disrespect by the way.

The way that the government is run by Xi Jing Ping, Communism is a big thing and is here to stay.

The last time I looked, he just declared himself ruler for life in stead of the same terms by Hu and Jiang.

Here https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-43361276
Mistreatment of Hong Kong, especially the massacre of 7/21/2019: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Yuen_Long_attack
Uighur Muslim Genocide: https://popularresistance.org/uyghur-gen...-in-china/

EDIT: So I for once agree with soulcity. If Xi is by any chance locked-up for life, I would not weep bitter tears of his plight.

Again, no disrespect. I spent twenty five years living in a country that doesn't allow human rights erosion the magnitude of how Mother China does. Sorry, but I have conviction on my side.

I am not defending the Chinese govt here. Just pointing out that the only similarities between modern china and communism is the one party system. Fascist Italy, Spain and Germany had that too. They weren't communis states. Nor was Iraq. Communism at its core is not even about dictatorship- it's about the workers owning the means of production, like say if all employees at wall mart were shareholders in the corporation and had an equal share in the profits and an equal say about how to run it. You can't say that to be true about China. Or anywhere else really...

What’s The Difference Between Socialism vs. Communism?

What is socialism?
Socialism has three main meanings:
1. a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.
2. procedure or practice in accordance with this theory.
3. (in Marxist theory) the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles.
Socialism is a social theory … makes sense. It theorizes that a collective cooperation of citizens will make all governmental institutions public. For example, no one will receive a healthcare bill when going to the doctor because they, and everyone else, have paid a hefty amount in government taxes. That’s where the collective cooperation comes in.  
What is communism?
Communism, on the other hand, is a branch of socialism. It’s similar in that it’s still founded on the idea of collective cooperation, but differs in that communists believe that cooperation should be run by a totalitarian government made up of one and only one government.
Russia gave communism a bad name when it reigned as the USSR. It was here that thousands who were seen as threats to the state—artists, authors, intellectuals, even those who practiced religion—were sent to be slaughtered or exiled … uh, yikes. I guess you could call it socialism gone bad.
Although the USSR fell way back when, Russia is still very communist culturally, though economically they’re a capitalistic system. Countries like the People’s Republic of China are certainly more communist than Russia, where all things are nationalized up to the point that citizens can’t even make full use of the internet due to the government’s fear of free thought.  
So, although communism is a form of socialism … it’s definitely the rotten egg of the two.
How are they different from democracy?
Democracy is “a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.” The Greek demokratia is derived from demos, “common people,” and kratos, “strength.”
Basically, in a democracy, the head of state is usually a president, and the supreme power rests in the body of citizens entitled to vote (which is then exercised by representatives chosen directly or indirectly by them). Capitalism is part of democracies (not communist or socialist countries). The community as a whole does not own all of the property and wealth in a democracy.

***SOURCE: https://www.dictionary.com/e/socialism-vs-communism/

[RobertX]

If there is an overseer, Communism, or Socialism, ends there.

Do you chicos know where I can get an unedited copy of the Communist Manifest?

The main topic has indeed left the building, but I do recommend reading Nineteen Eighty-Four by George Orwell. What was depicted in that novel actually happened. Maybe preaching to the choir, but the harshness of the message is surreal.

EDIT: My mother told me that the sons of her uncle who lived during the era of Mao renounced their father to the state and the state imprisoned the man. After Deng led China out of isolation and brought about the Four Modernisations Act, they had to take up thievery, like robberies and pickpocketing. until they're thrown in jail. These bastards clearly deserve it, but that's beside the point

Not trying to make a point, just dumping AIDS trying to entertain you guys

[ill88eagle]

***SOURCE: https://www.dictionary.com/e/socialism-vs-communism/

Lots of bias and factual errors in that description.

In original Marxist theory, what is termed "communism" in your copypasta (the one party dictatorship) is the actual "stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles.", most noteworthy for "the peoples dictatorship", where as third stage communism is actual collectivism without need for government. A bit idealistic. As we have seen so far, all communist experiments have stagnated at the imperfect stage. And some, like China, have embraced the very thing communism seeks to eradicate: capitalist exploitation.

Do you chicos know where I can get an unedited copy of the Communist Manifest?

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/wo...ifesto.pdf

marxists.org if you wanna get aquainted with marxist theory in general

[Carjacker]

Lots of bias and factual errors in that description.

In original Marxist theory, what is termed "communism" in your copypasta (the one party dictatorship) is the actual "stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles.", most noteworthy for "the peoples dictatorship", where as third stage communism is actual collectivism without need for government. A bit idealistic. As we have seen so far, all communist experiments have stagnated at the imperfect stage. And some, like China, have embraced the very thing communism seeks to eradicate: capitalist exploitation.

While most may get sidetracked discussing the ideologies of Socialism/Communism - the one part of that article that I posted that should be a major cause of concern for any wanna-be follower of either ideology is this:

"Russia gave communism a bad name when it reigned as the USSR. It was here that thousands who were seen as threats to the state—artists, authors, intellectuals, even those who practiced religion—were sent to be slaughtered or exiled … uh, yikes. I guess you could call it socialism gone bad."

** It should actually read as hundreds of millions instead of thousands. That's historical fact.

That is the inevitable in either ideology of Socialism/Communism. In the end there is a dictator who will crush any who deviate from the proscribed behaviors of the authoritarian rule. You work, live and die for the 'State'.

[ill88eagle]

** It should actually read as hundreds of millions instead of thousands. That's historical fact.

Nope. The highest estimates are around 20 million civilian deaths in Stalin's Soviet. Mao achieved the double but still didn't reach 100 million. And as I've shown previously in this thread, lots of communist states have existed without killing heaps of civilians until foreign powers (usually the USA) came in and stirred up shit. Feel free to dig up proof of the contrary. (protip: you can't)

That is the inevitable in either ideology of Socialism/Communism. In the end there is a dictator who will crush any who deviate from the proscribed behaviors of the authoritarian rule. You work, live and die for the 'State'.

That is somewhat true, in that second stage communism (the imperfect stage) hands over all power to the party. But you seem to be ignorant of the fact that most European countries have implemented "socialism" or socialist aspects without dictatorship or mass killings. Just through ordinary democracy in which commies have the same legal rights as right wing nut cases.

[stormium]

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Myself and several other homeschooling parents have been singled out for special attention by a newly formed community civil rights group.  I got hand delivered a letter today explaining to me that I'm doing my child an injustice and that I'm setting her up to become racist. 
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I'm not teaching my child to hate anyone based on the color of their skin.  In fact I'm teaching her to avoid people based on what they do and what kind of drama they can create. 

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...America's inner city schools and schools with a large percentage of African American children are a pathetic joke.  <snip>...but the students are violent, ignorant, stoned, etc. 

A huge percent of those kids don't even know who their father is and their mother is not much better.  Children as young as 2 have been left alone in the home for days at a time while the mother is out partying, getting laid or doing drugs.

My point is that what keeps Black Americans down is Black Americans.

i can't imagine why anyone would consider you to be racist or a bigot...

[soulcity]

i can't imagine why anyone would consider you to be racist or a bigot...

Because there are people that live in a fantasy world and facts have no place in the land of dreams.
Instead of accepting the reality of the situation, you would prefer believing that there's a Caucasian Boogieman in every school that whips black children when they try to learn to read.

Listen, I've got a child to raise and I'm not about to take chances with her future or her life by putting her in one of those schools. My duty as a parent is more important than worrying that neohippies might call me racist. My only concern is cancel culture and the government pandering to those jackasses.

[LZA]

An aside: to think, this was about racism. How did this thread become Communist?

Because of labels... Democrat, Republican, left, right, communism, nazi, are all words that we originally used to describe a thought process, have become more sinister as they include the government actions that adopt them Every one of those labels I mentioned can be called racist by someone who disagrees. Which I think was the initial point of the OP.. They didn't agree with her homeschooling so she must be racist. I think communist was thrown because it got labeled to the people who are rting to cancel the OP. Only when we see the OPs intentions can you make a determination as to whether you agree if there is racism there.

OP has the right to homeschool, obviously, but the reasons provided can show insight as to if there is racism there, or if the people saying it is unjustified...
Westboro baptist church is originally about religion and God, but it morphed into anything BUT...

i can't imagine why anyone would consider you to be racist or a bigot...

Because there are people that live in a fantasy world and facts have no place in the land of dreams.
Instead of accepting the reality of the situation, you would prefer believing that there's a Caucasian Boogieman in every school that whips black children when they try to learn to read.

It's comments like that that can cause you to appear racist. If you said these things openly to the people accusing you, I can see where they would get that idea. You may not even mean what you say, but you are so emotional the shit just flies out and you sound unthoughtful and racist at best. IMHO it's more of a class issue than a race issue.

Listen, I've got a child to raise and I'm not about to take chances with her future or her life by putting her in one of those schools. My duty as a parent is more important than worrying that neohippies might call me racist. My only concern is to cancel culture and the government pandering to those jackasses.
[/quote]
That's your 100% right, and the reasons for it are your right too. But if some of those reasons are racial then don't get mad when they call a spade a spade. Really UNEMOTIONALLY go over your reasons for it and make yourself well with it. Sometimes the crazy masses label people incorrectly, but sometimes, it's just cause and effect.

[soulcity]

It's comments like that that can cause you to appear racist.

I'm at the point where as far as I'm concerned.... All the people throwing around the term racist can just go to hell.

They can believe whatever they want as long as they don't touch my home or family and as long as I don't have to deal with their cancel culture hogwash or the idiot bureaucrats taking a knee for them.

But if some of those reasons are racial then don't get mad when they call a spade a spade.

I don't know about the rest of the country but I'm from Byron Georgia and a "Spade" was another way of calling a black man a n*gger. Calling a spade a spade has been a popular expression with the real-racists that are Klansmen. Therefore, you might want to clean up your language before someone calls you a racist.

seriously,
I get what your saying but the racial composition of many of the bad schools are what they are. I didn't make those schools bad and I don't feel any responsibility for them being the way they are. But what I do know is that poor uneducated people come to this country and bust their asses to make a better life for themselves. Lots of them go on to become wealthy.

When poor uneducated immigrants can make something of themselves then there is no excuse for those born in this country to do the same.

[LZA]

I don't know about the rest of the country but I'm from Byron Georgia and a "Spade" was another way of calling a black man a n*gger. Calling a spade a spade has been a popular expression with the real-racists that are Klansmen. Therefore, you might want to clean up your language before someone calls you a racist.

seriously,
I get what your saying but the racial composition of many of the bad schools are what they are. I didn't make those schools bad and I don't feel any responsibility for them being the way they are. But what I do know is that poor uneducated people come to this country and bust their asses to make a better life for themselves. Lots of them go on to become wealthy.

When poor uneducated immigrants can make something of themselves then there is no excuse for those born in this country to do the same.

Oh trust me, I thought of that too, and I also purposefully used it in this post. A spade to me is a gardening tool, or a playing card symbol.

I do not disagree with your right to words, homeschooling, or wearing a jacket. They are your rights... (all this BLM and cancel culture aside)

I have had trouble staying on topic, so I'm really trying to do that here. Again not taking away your rights, the topic of the thread is "for all the things to be racist for" and My point in all this is to maybe show you that some of your reasons (while not even meaning to be racist), sound that way. The Georgia thing makes sense as that a southern (red) state, so I can see where you are more liberal. I live in libtard Connecticuck, where if I gave those reasons, even if it were true, I'd be looked at with 3 heads.

Not knowing you, but only by your posts, maybe you are articulating secondary facts, with the race issue and the white teachers. But in this day and age, that sounds racist, because it is. Like I said before, it's a class thing, because, even when I lived in the Waterbury Ghetto the blacks and Spanish had their shit together more than the whites... Maybe say (if it's true), that you don;t trust the school system as much as yourself because you can see what and how she learns with a hands-on approach.

not saying you do, but statements like "I won't let my daughter go to school with those animals" do nothing for your peace. The wording is everything. And I'm just making an observation since I think you made this thread because you are upset. IF you really didn't care what people thought, you would just be stating it and not wondering as to why. We are all fed up with this PC, butthurt culture, but you may unintentionally feed into it by saying reckless things because you have that right.

NOw, In my experience, the blacks and spanish in the poor class live by a reputation. A code that says they will not be punked. They take this very seriously and jokes can be mistaken for having their honor tested. Trust me, I know... I had to learn that really poor people in that circumstance, think different. So the lower class "punks" in the class may not be bad people but just showing that they are not punks, or, mimiking what they have learned. But it's a class thing, Not a color thing... Some of the white people that did have their shit together in the ghetto acted the same way.

We have to try and erase the poorer class is my point. Maybe then it will create an environment where you'll feel safe letting your kid go to school because all the other kids will feel equal?

just a thought