Of all the things to be called a racist for...

[dueda]

you're the one making this a race issue.

Not in the USA and not in the thread title, I see.

[stormium]

They're doing a really bad job of eliminating racism because I guarantee that they're creating thousands of new racists.

Myself and several other homeschooling parents have been singled out for special attention by a newly formed community civil rights group.  I got hand delivered a letter today explaining to me that I'm doing my child an injustice and that I'm setting her up to become racist. 

inner city schools and schools with a large percentage of African American children are a pathetic joke.  

You would cringe with horror and fear if you ever spent a day in one of those schools.  The teachers are trying damn hard to teach those kids but the students are violent, ignorant, stoned, etc. 

A huge percent of those kids don't even know who their father is and their mother is not much better.  Children as young as 2 have been left alone in the home for days at a time while the mother is out partying, getting laid or doing drugs.

My point is that what keeps Black Americans down is Black Americans.

you're the one making this a race issue.

if these are the things you are teaching your kid, then your kid will grow up to be a racist. when your kid grows older and develops a fear or hatred or both of black people, then yes, your kid will grow up to be a racist because that's what their parent taught them.

[hyp]

inner city schools and schools with a large percentage of African American children are a pathetic joke.

A huge percent of those kids don't even know who their father is and their mother is not much better. Children as young as 2 have been left alone in the home for days at a time while the mother is out partying, getting laid or doing drugs.

My point is that what keeps Black Americans down is Black Americans.

This is racism. Homeschooling your child is not racist but you are.

[soulcity]

if these are the things you are teaching your kid, then your kid will grow up to be a racist. when your kid grows older and develops a fear or hatred or both of black people, then yes, your kid will grow up to be a racist because that's what their parent taught them.

This is racism. Homeschooling your child is not racist but you are.

Regardless of the media claims or spin the problems with the public schools are are well known and stating facts is not racism.

But as many of my nation's cities burn and people are killed because of the violence we're being taught that those Liberals /Leftists who scream systemic racism are mentally ill.

Unfortunately, there are some of those mentally ill Liberals /Leftists in this thread.

[stormium]

if these are the things you are teaching your kid, then your kid will grow up to be a racist. when your kid grows older and develops a fear or hatred or both of black people, then yes, your kid will grow up to be a racist because that's what their parent taught them.

This is racism. Homeschooling your child is not racist but you are.

Regardless of the media claims or spin the problems with the public schools are are well known and stating facts is not racism.

But as many of my nation's cities burn and people are killed because of the violence we're being taught that those Liberals /Leftists who scream systemic racism are mentally ill. 

Unfortunately, there are some of those mentally ill Liberals /Leftists in this thread.

generalizing that “most” black kids are violent drug addicts with absent fathers and promiscuous mothers is a stereotype; a ‘generalization’ if you will.

the funny thing about generalizations is that it applies to everyone:

“almost” all white women that are home schooling their kids and openly disparaging “most” of a race while wearing a confederate tshirt and drolling on about liberals and blah blah blah... is just another example of a typical racist... that is too busy smoking meth and sleeping around and, or turning tricks because her babies’s daddies walked out on them (different father for each of the three illegitimate  children)... and she needs money because the welfare just isn’t cutting it and you can only sell plasma every few weeks and your one claim to fame was being featured on two episodes of cops; one describing how the freight train sounded like a freight train and what not, and the other one where you were smoking bathsalts and tried to eat someone’s face.

the only thing holding my country down is ignorance. so what if you have to do jobs that no one wants or considered taking some dick for cash? you had a kid and it’s your responsibility to take of it. that’s part of being a parent regardless of the circumstances. sounds to me like you are in the same boat as those “horrible” black people you mentioned.

so, by all means: wave that flag with pride, especially the white part if that’s your thing. blame all your problems on blacks. don’t forget to blame the mexicans, leftist, marxists, albanians, alpacas, fake news...

just don’t assume that you aren’t part of our total problem. but hey... free country right?

[dueda]

just don’t assume that you aren’t part of our total problem. but hey... free country right?

Recent events just show how free it is. Mostly because many people don't think they are part of the problem or should try to do something about it.

[soulcity]

generalizing that “most” black kids are violent drug addicts with absent fathers and promiscuous mothers is a stereotype; a ‘generalization’ if you will.

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so, by all means: wave that flag

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just don’t assume that you aren’t part of our total problem. but hey... free country right?

1. I was talking about the situation with the public schools.
No amount of Political Correctness, Social Justice Warring or Media and Internet spin is going to hide the truth about what's going on in many of our public schools.

2. I enjoy going to civil war reenactments, tailgate parties, barn dances, and hunting and fishing with my daughter and my dad.
Now if I feel like wearing a confederate flag dress (I have one), a confederate T-Shirt or painting a giant confederate flag on my garage.. Then I'm going to do those things and I don't give a damn how angry you or anyone else wants to get.

3. I keep a roof over my family's head, I keep food on my table, I keep gas in my car, I pay my bills, I pay taxes and I even do some volunteer work.
So those neo-hippies/SJWs can scream all day long that people like me are somehow part of some sort of bigger social evil. But once again, I don't give a damn!
I've got my own life to live and more than enough of my own problems to take care. - Everyone is responsible for fixing their own problems.

Recent events just show how free it is.

But they kind of do... Don't they?

What other nation would tolerate their cities being burned, their monuments being destroyed and protestors assembling by the thousands during a so-called pandemic?

Forget talking about China or Russia... I want to see how a socialist nation in Europe would react to that kind of behavior.

We have been very tolerant and allowed people their rights to Freedom of Speech and to Assemble that 144 people (including children) have been murdered in Chicago alone since June 01, 2020.

[LZA]

2. I enjoy going to civil war reenactments, tailgate parties, barn dances, and hunting and fishing with my daughter and my dad. 
Now if I feel like wearing a confederate flag dress (I have one), a confederate T-Shirt or painting a giant confederate flag on my garage.. Then I'm going to do those things and I don't give a damn how angry you or anyone else wants to get.

I don;t think I'm a racist either... I think I'm more racial than anything. I also have the excuse that I DO have black and spanish friends, I DO listen to mainly black music , I've dated other cultures. So I think I'm just talking... Since thsi is not the Void, I'll say I use the N-word in jest, and sometimes in anger when say, one cuts me off (or Spanish). not because I HATE the race, but because I can be a manipulative asshole that wants to hurt someone who's wronged me as hard as I can... So perceived words to hurt are what I go for... If a black woman cuts me off, I call her a Ho or a bitch, if a white one does it, she's a C-word... because... going for the throat.

I also don't think I'm racist because I'll say what I say to friends regardless of color. In fact, I explained this logic to my black friend from Brooklyn, who also said he can tell I'm a white that's comfortable around other colors, because of the way I act... However, he also told me that in that conversation, I said at least 5 things that would have got me SHOT in Brooklyn in from of the wrong people.  I won;t bore you with other details, but here is the life lesson I learned.

I may not be a racist in an evil sense, but more of a racist by ignorance. He did say I had no idea what the word means to some people and why If I was a good person, I would at least not be so open and keep some shit to myself... See, I thought by being open was less racist, but I guess racism perceived is racism achieved. and not everyone knows me as I know myself, so my unassuming intentions can be taken as "there goes white boy again..."

He said he can talk like that to him, and he's talked about evil whites and the jews to me, but to be open is a flippant way to say, I don't care enough about it to actually put in the time and read about other people... Eagle tells me all the time just because I think of things one way, not everyone shares my opinion... main;y about depression, but ALSO, the fact that I really in my real life don't GAF enough about racism to actually hate anyone for their race... But again, racism perceived... what I didn't know was that I may have racially affected people by not knowing. Of course, I didn't mean it, but when I empathize, some people don't need to hear that shit... They've been through different lives than I.

Being from the south, and in your environment, you may not think you are racist (you may not be), but the way you can come across maybe (again, racism perceived.....) Especially when you type things like Black kids in class, fatherless, savage, crime-ridden... whatever you said... If you are going to cite things that can be detrimental to a race, you NEED to back them up with statistics... And in my thoughts, those statistics do show maybe 15% of the population of blacks commit 45% of the crime (or whatever the lopsided stat is), you don't know if it's due to skin color or other things.. I tend to think it's a class issue myself.  so when I'm not in the Void N*gg*ering it up as a joke, I try to avoid arguments like that. The issue is TOO multidimensional to blame race only . It is class, religious beliefs, mental issues... and more than I can call out here...

SO my friendly advice to you is: Take care in how you say what you say. you may not know you are coming off racist even though you know who you are and have the best of intentions. here here on a forum, the human element is taken out and people can misread how you choose to articulate something and make it racist. because words are black and white, but they sometimes don't show the emotion behind them or other context clues that a face to face discussion would.

Now, there is a line in editing yourself to edit for other's true feelings, and being a bitch to a SJW whim to bow to their opinion. That's what makes this situation evil, they automatically say you are racist when you are not, you only disagree... They move the chains (football reference) so to speak, and say you crossed the imaginary subjective line. You shouldn't hav to change yourself for others. but if you are going to discuss it, be exact in hoe you feel. Be impeccable with your word.

I agree with you, but again, your feelings are not the truth. Just know if you do wear your confederate get up, you will be perceived as racist by others... and to them, that's good enough. If you matter of facty state to those people that you keep you daughter out of school to be away from savages, you will be considered racist...

I'm not sure what you said, or how much ammo you gave them... I would tell them is none of their business and to fuck off before talking about the school culture.. Unless you say generic things like, you know the environment at home or don't like public school. Many people sent their kids to Catholic school for whatever reason but IMHO that brings a whole new set of issues...

Sorry to be so wordy, but just try to sef edit how you say, and make yourself agree that you ay be racists (you can be called one for being a Trump supporter, or whatever), so come to terms with that... Just don;t give them a reason to call you one... Either by comfort or ignorance in speech

just my observation

[hyp]

I also have the excuse that I DO have black and spanish friends, I DO listen to mainly black music , I've dated other cultures.

I may not be a racist in an evil sense, but more of a racist by ignorance.

Have you ever told someone you are not racist because you have minority friends and listen to rap? I can't say what they would do, but I can say I'd laugh in your face. I do not think you're racist, but you listening to rap is not a reason for that, though perhaps you can understand black culture better from it.

I'm of the boat of people who would argue that (prima facie) ignorance isn't a valid excuse for racism, however I will say with certainty that one cannot use ignorance as an excuse for racism for oneself. Once again, not that I would say that you are racist, just that you cannot use ignorance as an excuse because the very act of acknowledging it proves that you are aware of it.

I guess racism perceived is racism achieved.

I do think this is a very good point. Checking ourselves before speaking is a good way to prevent conflict in general honestly, not just when speaking to people of cultures of which we are ignorant of. If my girlfriend asks me to do a chore and I check myself before being a bitch to her for asking and instead answer like a polite person there is a better chance she wont be a bitch back.

[LZA]

Have you ever told someone you are not racist because you have minority friends and listen to rap? I can't say what they would do, but I can say I'd laugh in your face. I do not think you're racist, but you listening to rap is not a reason for that, though perhaps you can understand black culture better from it.

I'm of the boat of people who would argue that (prima facie) ignorance isn't a valid excuse for racism, however I will say with certainty that one cannot use ignorance as an excuse for racism for oneself. Once again, not that I would say that you are racist, just that you cannot use ignorance as an excuse because the very act of acknowledging it proves that you are aware of it.

Oh, I'm saying in general now... not before I was aware of how others thought. I would also NEVER say to others that "I have black friends" because that's condescending and is a stupid thing to say... I was ignorant at one time, but now that I know, I can never go back. And when I say ignorant I mean saying things not knowing how I can come off... Like OP saying that instead of schools being bad, she tries to build her point by saying the blacks are bad in schools, (in school, the low-class white trash are just as much if not MORE trouble). even before no matter what slurs I may have said, I truly don't hate anyone just because of how they look. you have to piss me off for me to think of insults. just today, me and my Puerto Rican neighbor were complaining about the WHITE guy who is STILL setting of F-ing fireworks at night lie a goddammed inbred redneck... so Either I'm a self hating whiter or I don;t care... It's also easier to sound racist on a forum when you are invisible with no accountability. I use slurs as a way to outrage or joke but would never say it IRL... Some may say that I'm a racist but also a punk... That would be true if I thought that way. If that guy qiiksand realy thinks the way he thinks and doesn't walk the walk IRL then he is a punk... again, I just don;t care enough to hate anyone without knowing their character

and PS: when I talk about rap, the only thing I'll mention is that it was from about 88-2008,,, That mumble rap or Drake is NOT rap and considered BS. but I don't tell people "hey, I listen to rap" we have to already be having a convo about it