Question about my torrent client

[Cov]

Hi,

I'm interested to know how the software works that I'm using.
The client of my choice is Deluge, but something is not clear to me.





Question 1

Under # 5 you can see 5 Seeders and 0 Peers. Why aren't there any numbers in brackets next to them, like usual?


Question 2

Under # 4 you can see 1 Seeder out of (1) and 25 Peers out of (21).
I thought the number in brackets shows the amount of people that are online, while the number next to it shows the amount of people I am connected to.
What am I missing?


Under # 2 you can see 10 Seeders out of (1) and 36 Peers out of (4).
Same problem like above.

[Hary1946]

The numbers outside the brackets at the numbers of seeds/peers you're currently connected to. The numbers inside the brackets are estimates of the total numbers of seeds/peers there are.

That the former sometimes exceeds the latter reveals two things: the estimates really are just estimates, they're not particularly reliable (that is actually true of ALL torrent clients; the fundamentally decentralized nature of the BitTorrent protocol means it is literally impossible to be definitive); and two, that the coders are sloppy--obviously where the estimate is less than the actual then they should replace the estimate with the actual. That would be fully justified, and it would avoid unnecessary alarm.

I don't the know the answer to your first question, but my guess would be that where the numbers you're connected to are equal to the estimates, display of the estimates is suppressed. so 5 0 represents 5(5) 0(0)

[Moe]

The number in parentheses is usually the number reported by traditional trackers, not taking into account DHT, PEX, or other sources.


If there is no number in parentheses, it generally means your client hasn't announced yet, or there are no trackers responding.


You can take a look at the sources tab for any torrent to get a better idea where those numbers are coming from.

[Cov]

The numbers inside the brackets are estimates of the total numbers of seeds/peers there are.

The number in parentheses is usually the number reported by traditional trackers, not taking into account DHT, PEX, or other sources.

Alright so the brackets are called parentheses and the numbers within them might not be accurate for some reason.
Most of the time the numbers are right afaik, just sometimes, like in the screenshot above, they're not.

I don't the know the answer to your first question, but my guess would be that where the numbers you're connected to are equal to the estimates, display of the estimates is suppressed. so 5 0 represents 5(5) 0(0)

I was thinking the same, but if you look at # 1 = Seeders 0 (0), # 4 = Seeders 1 (1) and # 3 = Seeders 4 (4), that rule doesn't seem to apply there.

If there is no number in parentheses, it generally means your client hasn't announced yet, or there are no trackers responding.

Wouldn't that mean there shouldn't be any numbers outside of the parentheses either?
By the way, missing numbers in parentheses has never happened to me before.

You can take a look at the sources tab for any torrent to get a better idea where those numbers are coming from.

That actually is very interesting. This tab on Deluga is called Peers, although it shows my individual download speed from both, Seeders and Peers.
Besides this, it shows my upload speed to every Peer I'm connected to, the country of origin (as a flag) and even what client they're using.
It also shows the percentage of what each Peer has downloaded so far.

Does anyone know what the function: Prioritize First/Last is good for?

[Hary1946]

I do, but since you're only going to ignore the answers and claim to know better I'll not be wasting any more of my time even trying to help you.

[Cov]

I do, but since you're only going to ignore the answers and claim to know better I'll not be wasting any more of my time even trying to help you.

This must be a missunderstanding.

If I have not responded to any of your statements, then I have at least acknowledged and most probably approved it.
I am not used to respond to each and every statement of someone, if I think it's not necessary. Do you actually expect this from others?

And I have never claimed to know anything better without backing it up with evidence. Where exactly have I rejected any of your explanations?
Besides this, please note that english is not my native language. I'm sure I make lots of grammar mistakes.

[᠎]

This must be a missunderstanding.

No misunderstanding.

Not going to spend much time on this but, from your very first line:

...the numbers within them might not be accurate...

No, that is the exact opposite of what Moe told you, and it is totally incorrect.

There is no "might" about it, the numbers within the brackets are not accurate, period.

By chance and nothing but chance, they will occasionally match reality, but you don't say a broken clock is accurate just because it shows the correct time twice each day.

Most of the time the numbers are right afaik, just sometimes, like in the screenshot above, they're not.

Again, no, as you've been told by two people already, most of the time the numbers are wrong, just sometimes (by mere coincidence) they're right.


I'm not going to waste any more of my time repeating explanations I've already given.

[Cov]

I still belive there is a difference exsiting between how I intended to express myself and what I have written in my coment # 4.

Again, english is not my mothertongue.
Do you speak any other language than english? If yes, you would know how very different the ways are, people express themselves in different countries.

But ok, if you both don't want to spend anymore time and you feel insulted, this thread may be deleted. I just hope I didn't say anything wrong again.

[bob5695]

first/last grabs first and last pieces of torrent first, so you can check the header on the file(s).

[Cov]

first/last grabs first and last pieces of torrent first, so you can check the header on the file(s).

Thanks very much