Jul 20, 2020, 04:05 am
(Jul 20, 2020, 03:53 am)ill88eagle Wrote: [ -> ]What’s The Difference Between Socialism vs. Communism?(Jul 20, 2020, 02:42 am)RobertX Wrote: [ -> ]That's where I get off, ill88eagle, no disrespect by the way.
The way that the government is run by Xi Jing Ping, Communism is a big thing and is here to stay.
The last time I looked, he just declared himself ruler for life in stead of the same terms by Hu and Jiang.
Here https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-43361276
Mistreatment of Hong Kong, especially the massacre of 7/21/2019: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Yuen_Long_attack
Uighur Muslim Genocide: https://popularresistance.org/uyghur-gen...-in-china/
EDIT: So I for once agree with soulcity. If Xi is by any chance locked-up for life, I would not weep bitter tears of his plight.
Again, no disrespect. I spent twenty five years living in a country that doesn't allow human rights erosion the magnitude of how Mother China does. Sorry, but I have conviction on my side.
I am not defending the Chinese govt here. Just pointing out that the only similarities between modern china and communism is the one party system. Fascist Italy, Spain and Germany had that too. They weren't communis states. Nor was Iraq. Communism at its core is not even about dictatorship- it's about the workers owning the means of production, like say if all employees at wall mart were shareholders in the corporation and had an equal share in the profits and an equal say about how to run it. You can't say that to be true about China. Or anywhere else really...
What is socialism?
Socialism has three main meanings:
1. a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.
2. procedure or practice in accordance with this theory.
3. (in Marxist theory) the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles.
Socialism is a social theory … makes sense. It theorizes that a collective cooperation of citizens will make all governmental institutions public. For example, no one will receive a healthcare bill when going to the doctor because they, and everyone else, have paid a hefty amount in government taxes. That’s where the collective cooperation comes in.
What is communism?
Communism, on the other hand, is a branch of socialism. It’s similar in that it’s still founded on the idea of collective cooperation, but differs in that communists believe that cooperation should be run by a totalitarian government made up of one and only one government.
Russia gave communism a bad name when it reigned as the USSR. It was here that thousands who were seen as threats to the state—artists, authors, intellectuals, even those who practiced religion—were sent to be slaughtered or exiled … uh, yikes. I guess you could call it socialism gone bad.
Although the USSR fell way back when, Russia is still very communist culturally, though economically they’re a capitalistic system. Countries like the People’s Republic of China are certainly more communist than Russia, where all things are nationalized up to the point that citizens can’t even make full use of the internet due to the government’s fear of free thought.
So, although communism is a form of socialism … it’s definitely the rotten egg of the two.
How are they different from democracy?
Democracy is “a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.” The Greek demokratia is derived from demos, “common people,” and kratos, “strength.”
Basically, in a democracy, the head of state is usually a president, and the supreme power rests in the body of citizens entitled to vote (which is then exercised by representatives chosen directly or indirectly by them). Capitalism is part of democracies (not communist or socialist countries). The community as a whole does not own all of the property and wealth in a democracy.
***SOURCE: https://www.dictionary.com/e/socialism-vs-communism/