installing windows -7 on a UEFI
#1
Can anybody give me a step by step instructions on installing windows 7 on a UEFI HP Laptop pc with a rufus flash drive, Thanks
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#2
Just install it in Legacy mode instead if you want Windows 7.  It's a lot easier to do that, UEFI was more when motherboards and laptops came with Windows 8 and beyond...

If it was me personally I wouldn't use Win 7 anymore, the thing is long since dead.  I just use Win10 and I don't have a problem with it even for Pirating it works fine with VPN and Telemetry blocking tools.

There is no reason for Win7 anymore it's out of date and a security risk and time that people stopped using it.  I stopped using Win7 many years ago, everything about it is now out of date and a pain to install and leads to all kinds of problems.  Can't update it anymore it's literally dead now and MS don't support it.  Either get rid of Win7 and use Win10 or just get Linux Mint...

I wouldn't waste your time, personally..
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#3
(Jul 04, 2022, 16:43 pm)RodneyYouPlonker Wrote: Just install it in Legacy mode instead if you want Windows 7.  It's a lot easier to do that, UEFI was more when motherboards and laptops came with Windows 8 and beyond...

If it was me personally I wouldn't use Win 7 anymore, the thing is long since dead.  I just use Win10 and I don't have a problem with it even for Pirating it works fine with VPN and Telemetry blocking tools.

There is no reason for Win7 anymore it's out of date and a security risk and time that people stopped using it.  I stopped using Win7 many years ago, everything about it is now out of date and a pain to install and leads to all kinds of problems.  Can't update it anymore it's literally dead now and MS don't support it.  Either get rid of Win7 and use Win10 or just get Linux Mint...

I wouldn't waste your time, personally..
Thanks for the reply Rodney,  the HP Laptop was purchased a few years back with  with windows 8.1 installed which i updated to windows 10, but windows 10 i find is so slow and my windows 7 on my desktop is fast with no problems, so i partitioned the 1TB on the laptop to install the windows 7 and thats where i am having the difficulty, i am leaving the windows 10 on 500GB and trying to install the windows 7 on whats left on the partition,
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(Jul 04, 2022, 17:57 pm)patch79 Wrote:
(Jul 04, 2022, 16:43 pm)RodneyYouPlonker Wrote: Just install it in Legacy mode instead if you want Windows 7.  It's a lot easier to do that, UEFI was more when motherboards and laptops came with Windows 8 and beyond...

If it was me personally I wouldn't use Win 7 anymore, the thing is long since dead.  I just use Win10 and I don't have a problem with it even for Pirating it works fine with VPN and Telemetry blocking tools.

There is no reason for Win7 anymore it's out of date and a security risk and time that people stopped using it.  I stopped using Win7 many years ago, everything about it is now out of date and a pain to install and leads to all kinds of problems.  Can't update it anymore it's literally dead now and MS don't support it.  Either get rid of Win7 and use Win10 or just get Linux Mint...

I wouldn't waste your time, personally..
Thanks for the reply Rodney,  the HP Laptop was purchased a few years back with  with windows 8.1 installed which i updated to windows 10, but windows 10 i find is so slow and my windows 7 on my desktop is fast with no problems, so i partitioned the 1TB on the laptop to install the windows 7 and thats where i am having the difficulty, i am leaving the windows 10 on 500GB and trying to install the windows 7 on whats left on the partition,

The problem is that if you're wanting to multiboot different Windows systems, you're supposed to put the oldest one first (Win7) and then install later versions after like Win10.  In the old days people used to put Windows 98 on first and then after that install Windows XP.  It just helps a lot with the bootloader if you order them logically in time of release.

Technically it should work fine if you put Windows 7 on first and then after it's all done put Windows 10 on a different partition which is located after on the drive.  The only real way to fix it and make things faster with Windows 10 is to just get a newer laptop.  At the moment it just probably seems like a bad suggestion as you sound like you're still using it without any hitch but in the future things are going to change and if you don't get a newer and faster laptop things will slow down a lot.  Also Antivirus software can also cause problems because they become more demanding as time goes on and eat through more and more resources.  Antivirus gets more complicated as time goes on and they demand more from your laptop or PC just to keep everything working correctly.

Fair enough if you just want Windows 7 on and then also Win10, there's nothing wrong with that as long as Windows 7 can work on the laptop by using a key of some sort.  If you have a retail key for Win7 then I'm sure it's fine or you could just use a loader and get that from TPB so you can activate it.  Problem these days with Win10 is that as time goes on newer updates come out and you have to be on them because they expire eventually.  I just use a real key for Windows 10 and then I don't have problems when it updates and also I block all telemetry to stop it from sending information back to Microsoft.

It's always a problem really with Windows and keeping up and soon Windows 11 will start to be the current platform.  There's about just over 3 years left on support for Windows 10.  Once the support is gone so is the updating system and any patches you may need to stay safe online.  I will be getting ready soon myself to move onto Win11 but first I will have a mess around with it during that time, see what it's like and see how easy you can block things to make it more private.  Until I figure it out more I'm still unsure how it will go but in time I'm sure Windows will improve when it comes to 11 I mean...
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#5
I use Windows 7 on one computer because:

1. It's still pretty good.
2. I have no choice. I am stuck with an old computer among all my other computers that are infinitely better than this old, decrepit one.

The computer, along with Windows 7, almost never balks out, and I would opt to use Windows 10 or the latest Linux Mint OS in its place, but until I am able to get a new job (or have enough arms to rob a bank; sounds fun by the way!*), I'm stuck with this.

Now, I'm not stupid; I install updated operating systems on my other two computers: Windows 10 on my mother's computer and the latest Linux Mint on the computer behi9nd me as I type this message on this old master. I know that keeping up is important, but I still have use for this one, and I can't afford to trash it.

See, the problem with this computer is that there are no updated video drivers for Windows 10. Because of that, I have to use the default VGA driver and that driver is not very competent. This old Dell Dimension 3100 computer and my pirated Windows 7 are what I have to work with.

Oh well, you can't always get everything in life. Sometimes you have to make do.

*No, I'm not going to rob a bank. I can't find the trigger of a gun and i have no money to even buy a water squirter. Big Grin
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(Jul 04, 2022, 16:43 pm)RodneyYouPlonker Wrote: Just install it in Legacy mode instead if you want Windows 7.  It's a lot easier to do that, UEFI was more when motherboards and laptops came with Windows 8 and beyond...

If it was me personally I wouldn't use Win 7 anymore, the thing is long since dead.  I just use Win10 and I don't have a problem with it even for Pirating it works fine with VPN and Telemetry blocking tools.

There is no reason for Win7 anymore it's out of date and a security risk and time that people stopped using it.  I stopped using Win7 many years ago, everything about it is now out of date and a pain to install and leads to all kinds of problems.  Can't update it anymore it's literally dead now and MS don't support it.  Either get rid of Win7 and use Win10 or just get Linux Mint...

I wouldn't waste your time, personally..

I still prefer Windows 7 although I run Windows 11 on my laptop connected to a large monitor.

Starting with Windows 8, there's always a lag for the first few times when I right click on an icon, file, etc and also when "pulling" files when I want to open or "save to". This same issue remains today in Windows 11 despite a powerhouse of PC (specs). Let's also not forget about Windows 10/11 Start Menus. I have verified it on every PC I touch at friends', workplaces, Best Buy, Staples, etc., with the lag issue. Windows 11 is not snappy at all regardless of changing your Performance settings.

While some say you can change your Start Menu back to Windows 7, or 8, these third party applications are not stable and in my experience (including many others) it leaves your Windows unstable. The most stable of them all called Classic Shell isn't fully compatible with Windows 11, but it was almost 100% compatible with Windows 10.

TLTR: Windows 7 is snappy. Windows 8+ including Windows 11, is not.

If it wasn't for the bloated software like Chrome et al that I use daily and 1 GB GPU, I'd still be using Windows 7 as my my primary system.
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(Aug 06, 2022, 16:43 pm)Hmm888 Wrote:
(Jul 04, 2022, 16:43 pm)RodneyYouPlonker Wrote: Just install it in Legacy mode instead if you want Windows 7.  It's a lot easier to do that, UEFI was more when motherboards and laptops came with Windows 8 and beyond...

If it was me personally I wouldn't use Win 7 anymore, the thing is long since dead.  I just use Win10 and I don't have a problem with it even for Pirating it works fine with VPN and Telemetry blocking tools.

There is no reason for Win7 anymore it's out of date and a security risk and time that people stopped using it.  I stopped using Win7 many years ago, everything about it is now out of date and a pain to install and leads to all kinds of problems.  Can't update it anymore it's literally dead now and MS don't support it.  Either get rid of Win7 and use Win10 or just get Linux Mint...

I wouldn't waste your time, personally..

I still prefer Windows 7 although I run Windows 11 on my laptop connected to a large monitor.

Starting with Windows 8, there's always a lag for the first few times when I right click on an icon, file, etc and also when "pulling" files when I want to open or "save to". This same issue remains today in Windows 11 despite a powerhouse of PC (specs). Let's also not forget about Windows 10/11 Start Menus. I have verified it on every PC I touch at friends', workplaces, Best Buy, Staples, etc., with the lag issue. Windows 11 is not snappy at all regardless of changing your Performance settings.

While some say you can change your Start Menu back to Windows 7, or 8, these third party applications are not stable and in my experience (including many others) it leaves your Windows unstable. The most stable of them all called Classic Shell isn't fully compatible with Windows 11, but it was almost 100% compatible with Windows 10.

TLTR: Windows 7 is snappy. Windows 8+ including Windows 11, is not.

If it wasn't for the bloated software like Chrome et al that I use daily and 1 GB GPU, I'd still be using Windows 7 as my my primary system.

Regarding Windows 7:

I used to use it myself for years.  Eventually the updates stopped.  Now, for myself, there's no point anymore in using that OS.  I have now Windows 10 which I'm very happy with.  I don't use laptops myself but I used to work on them at one point and I know what they are like inside and I don't find them to be very impressive as far as hardware is concerned.  I always use Towers instead which I build myself and have done now for well over 20 years+.  From my experience of using the recent Windows 10 I find them to be all the same and just work as normal and I don't suffer with any kind of lag.  The latest machine I'm working on, just waiting at the moment, will be a system that I've previously built twice already and uses a motherboard and processor that can handle Windows 11 just fine.  On the system that I'm currently using right now the machine works completely freely and has good cooling inside with a series of fans.  Never have I had any lag problems with any Win system especially in respects to the start menu.  I'm sure that on the current system I'm building that Win11 will run without error just the same as Win10 does.  I make sure to use large amounts of RAM with a good processor that has several different cores and also a solid state drive that can run very quickly and boots in a matter of around 30-40 seconds at the most until the Win OS is completely booted up which is the reason I use UEFI to gain fast booting times compared to legacy installations.
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