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As you probably know, Windows 7 support officially ended yesterday. Today I got a notify screen on startup.
What are your plans from now on? Have you already upgraded to Windows 10 or perhaps switched to Linux, Mac OS?
Personally I still keep using Windows 7, but might upgrade to Windows 10 in the upcoming weeks.
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Jan 15, 2020, 01:22 am
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I'm armed to the teeth with downloading untouched Windows 10 images and molesting them into self-activation in preparation to buy a new computer.
You see, I already have taken the next step, and that is to use Linux Mint 19.3 and beyond.
Of course, my Windows 7 machine is still valuable, and I will continue to use it to burn videos and play old-school games.
As long as there is software support, there's still time.
I hope I've been helpful.
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Windows 7 was good but now R.I.P
I moved onto 10 a while ago, I wanted to deal with the whole issue months ago not leave it all until the last minute. These things can take time, I have no plans to ever jump to Linux, I will remain a happy Windows 10 user for as long as I can.
Windows 10 might be a little odd here and there but believe me you can make it work in the same way as 7.
Computers is a complicated subject and it's something which you can spend hours and hours messing around on, also it does take ages to get things right, sometimes things go wrong, it can be hard going, also cost a fortune to put right. If there's problems then it can be hard work sorting them out.
I guess they had to put 7 to an end eventually, can't go on forever. Things are changing, technology is changing a lot. Really if you ran a comp that was designed years ago you really need to just dump it and start again, get yourself a decent machine, buy a nice SSD or some nice board, good fast ram, good speedy CPU. Something that is good in this modern age, not a crappy old piece of junk, that belongs in the bin or recycling centre, the only place it's fit for.
Computers is a very expensive hobby and if you're not prepared to put lots of money into it then it's definitely not for you, I would try something else instead.
Can't always expect to get everything for free, in this world that would be nice, maybe Linux you can but with Windows it is a product, you either buy or you don't, simple as that. Pirate all you want but be prepared to run into a lot of problems.
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if using volume license keys then you wont run into lot of problems..
happy enough im able to use volume license keys obtained from a good source.. cant say from where..
the home brew versions ive made and uploaded over the years have worked ok..
maybe you might have heard of an old xp version I used to compile and upload
'windows xp student edition' with vl key added.. can install many times on many computers as it passes online as fully Genuine.
I used a volume license with windows 7 and windows 8.1
still looking for a volume license for windows 10.. so currently using clean cmd digital license
never had any problems with windows versions..
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Don't worry, install BypassEsu.
With that bypass you can get security updates until 2023, nowadays i'm using it, in a not very good laptop.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpBTB3ST4kk
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Dual boot Linux and Windows so you can still use Windows exclusive programs, but any other time not have to deal with Windows' existence. Fedora 32 with Cinnamon is similar enough that the learning curve isn't too steep. I shouldn't have to explain why Linux is superior to Windows.
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Even better: run either Windows or GNU/Linux and run the other OS on a virtual machine if you need both at the same time.
That's how I do it.
Then you're ready, then dual boot.
For me, dual booting is out the window; it's inconvenient since I need both OSs at the same time and can't be bothered to open a partition. Of course, you might want processing power, memory, and hard drive space with the most modern OS you're trying to run.
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(Jan 15, 2020, 01:36 am)RodneyYouPlonker Wrote: Computers is a very expensive hobby and if you're not prepared to put lots of money into it then it's definitely not for you, I would try something else instead.
That is if you insist on using a closed source OS that is manufactured with one goal in mind: PROFIT
Which means ditching your perfectly functional stuff to be dumped in a landfill somewhere in the 3rd world and pay for new stuff which you'll have to replace in a couple of years as well.
On the other side of the road we get to enjoy our old hardware with open source drivers decades after support was dropped by the manufacturers.
(Oct 06, 2020, 06:13 am)RobertX Wrote: Even better: run either Windows or GNU/Linux and run the other OS on a virtual machine if you need both at the same time.
That's how I do it.
Then you're ready, then dual boot.
For me, dual booting is out the window; it's inconvenient since I need both OSs at the same time and can't be bothered to open a partition. Of course, you might want processing power, memory, and hard drive space with the most modern OS you're trying to run.
For me it's win7 in a virtual machine (with no internet access) for games that refuse to run with wine
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Oct 06, 2020, 16:49 pm
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(Oct 06, 2020, 06:13 am)RobertX Wrote: Even better: run either Windows or GNU/Linux and run the other OS on a virtual machine if you need both at the same time.
That's how I do it.
Then you're ready, then dual boot.
For me, dual booting is out the window; it's inconvenient since I need both OSs at the same time and can't be bothered to open a partition. Of course, you might want processing power, memory, and hard drive space with the most modern OS you're trying to run.
Many windows programs won't work in a VM. On an old "gaming" laptop, the fan software is proprietary, has no linux alternative, and won't work in a VM. Also, some games, take Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Siege, absolutely will not work in linux. They're borked in wine and the anti-cheat software does not work in VMs.
It's much easier to keep a small windows partition for when you need it, at least in my use case.
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(Oct 06, 2020, 16:49 pm)hyp Wrote: Many windows programs won't work in a VM. On an old "gaming" laptop, the fan software is proprietary, has no linux alternative, and won't work in a VM. Also, some games, take Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Siege, absolutely will not work in linux. They're borked in wine and the anti-cheat software does not work in VMs.
Well, not everything can work on everything and, as you know, free VM software like VirtualBox are still a work in progress and not proprietary.
I'm patient; the time will come for a workaround or an upgrade that will eventually force certain stubborn programs to work.
Other that that, if a program vomits on a certain Windows version, just change the Windows version. For example, the audio for Diablo cuts off on a virtual Windows 2000. Then, when I try a virtual Windows XP, the problem is gone!
I guess it has nothing to do with the power of VirtualBox; it's probably that I'm patient.
Well, vote VMs!
EDIT: Besides, hyp, if you can run a GNU/Linux OS and can afford to switch to the FOSS alternatives of certain commercial Windows programs, you should switch.
For example, my favourite media player is Windows Media Player 12 for Windows 7. I can't run that on Linux Mint, but I don't need to; I have VLC!
So since there are free equivalents of Windows software, VMs should not be the first alternative that comes to your mind.
Call me a slogan swallower, but it's true.
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