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(Dec 16, 2018, 11:28 am)politux Wrote: (Dec 16, 2018, 11:23 am)dueda Wrote: Classic politux, evade the question. Are you trying to annoy the Neanderthal? He may send his feral dogs.
If you're serious, I didn't evade the question. Trump is an unindicted co conspirator named Individual 1 in the fillings.
Just wait until the new House is seated. They are going to strip Trump of all his remaining power and then run out the clock until 2020 when we can elect a non-traitor.
When the new House is seated in January, more people will watch C-SPAN and on You Tube stream the various investigations than ever before because those hearings are going to be must-see TV! 
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He'll be impeached. Big deal. So was Clinton. What's gonna be fun is seeing him re-elected anyway.
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Sheep need to follow. After many decades of bad management, you still believe in the system and your own clutches. This world is lost and deserves it.
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Dec 17, 2018, 12:36 pm
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(Dec 16, 2018, 22:40 pm)neanderthal Wrote: He'll be impeached. Big deal. So was Clinton. What's gonna be fun is seeing him re-elected anyway.
It's a very big deal, because Clinton's impeachment was a total sham. The only thing the Republicans could try him on was lying under oath about one thing : getting blown in the Oval Office by Monica Lewinksy. Ken Starr investigated every other accusation against the Clintons : Whitewhite, Vince Foster's suicide, Travelgate, etc. and he had nothing in the way of evidence he could use. As with Andrew Johnson 120 years earlier, Bill Clinton was saved from losing his office by 1 vote in the Senate. That was a joke and some of the GOP members still in Congress would rather forget how ridiculous they looked at the time. It's not how George Bush, Jr. got elected though, but that's another story entirely....
There are so many things that Trump did to break the law, both intentionally and unintentionally and many of those allegations have already been proven from a variety of sources including his former campaign manager, former NSA head, former personal attorney, and others. Manefort is in prison along with Cohen. Your president is going down!
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(Dec 17, 2018, 12:36 pm)Executive Wrote: (Dec 16, 2018, 22:40 pm)neanderthal Wrote: He'll be impeached. Big deal. So was Clinton. What's gonna be fun is seeing him re-elected anyway.
It's a very big deal, because Clinton's impeachment was a total sham. The only thing the Republicans could try him on was lying under oath about one thing : getting blown in the Oval Office by Monica Lewinksy. Ken Starr investigated every other accusation against the Clintons : Whitewhite, Vince Foster's suicide, Travelgate, etc. and he had nothing in the way of evidence he could use. As with Andrew Johnson 120 years earlier, Bill Clinton was saved from losing his office by 1 vote in the Senate. That was a joke and some of the GOP members still in Congress would rather forget how ridiculous they looked at the time. It's not how George Bush, Jr. got elected though, but that's another story entirely....
There are so many things that Trump did to break the law, both intentionally and unintentionally and many of those allegations have already been proven from a variety of sources . . .
Wrong. There are just allegations. Until Trump is tried and convicted or confesses, they are not proven. This is no different than the Whitewater and Cattle futures scandals where there was substantial evidence but not enough to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. I don't think Trump will make the same mistake as Clinton did and lie under oath, but you never know . . .
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Dec 18, 2018, 09:26 am
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(Dec 18, 2018, 05:13 am)neanderthal Wrote: Wrong. There are just allegations. Until Trump is tried and convicted or confesses, they are not proven. This is no different than the Whitewater and Cattle futures scandals where there was substantial evidence but not enough to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. I don't think Trump will make the same mistake as Clinton did and lie under oath, but you never know . . .
You don't think Donald Trump would lie under oath ?? The man is a compulsive, serial liar! Why do you think his lawyers -- past and present wouldn't allow him to talk to Robert Mueller ?
There's a ton of proof already -- not just allegations. Look at Trump's history : He took money laundered through Deustchbanke, know for Russian money laundering ( that bank was recently raided by German authorities).
He took money from the NRA to get elected and from billionaires the Mercer family and fellow casino owner Sheldon Adelson.
He took money from a Saudi prince , who stayed in his D.C. hotel after getting elected. That in itself is ILLEGAL! A sitting president can't take money from foreign dignitaries -- a clear violation of the Constitution's Emoluments Clause. He shouldn't be allowed to do ANY non-government business while in the Oval Office.
Trump had Michael Cohen pay the National Enquirer, a Playboy model, and porn star to keep quiet about their affair to get elected.
That is FRAUD. Cohen himself recently admitted that.
He took money from unsuspecting real estate students who bought his online Trump University course. A lawsuit settlement resulting in his paying those people a total of $25 million. That ruling came in November 2016. That is also fraud!
Impeachment is a political process, and he may not get kicked out of office, but for the above and other reasons Trump has got to go. FOLLOW THE MONEY!
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Executive, I'm glad you have your eyes open. now please open your mind to the world corruption and cruelty - Welcome to the 3rd World, 4th Roman Empire.
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(Dec 18, 2018, 10:18 am)dueda Wrote: Executive, I'm glad you have your eyes open. now please open your mind to the world corruption and cruelty - Welcome to the 3rd World, 4th Roman Empire.
Well, I wouldn't describe it that way... Donald Trump is no Caesar.  The United States has become an oligarchy, but there are still elements of it being a democracy and it's not too late to save this country. The first major step would be after the Democrats can also win back the White House and Senate in 2020. That's a heavy lift but not impossible -- it happened 10 years ago. Whether it does again or not, the best solution would be for a majority of the states to pass a Constitutional amendment to get corporate money out of politics. Then the U.S. Congress would be forced to vote on that.
Many of the Republicans in the U.S. Senate were paid off by the NRA, whom we now know were taking money from the Russians.
That's why those Senators are covering for Donald Trump. The Orange One will be impeached by the upcoming Democratic House and even if he can't be removed from office in the Senate, I believe he will resign from the pressure the way Nixon did.
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Like I said, if he is charged with a crime, he may go against his lawyers' advice and end up lying under oath like Clinton did, but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for him to resign, whatever happens.
To me, it's all entertainment. I hope he is impeached (reason yet to be decided by the Dems) because I want to see a first: a president getting re-elected after being impeached. Clinton didn't have that opportunity but Trump does. It will be historical.
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It would be better for the world if it happens as Executive hopes, but fighting the corporations is a uphill battle. And if there's still any decency in USA, Trump won't be reelected, impeachment or not, ever again.
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