Request Information: Rodisc Disc ID

[RobertX]

I would like disc identification on Rodisc DVD+R DLs.

This is why: I bought a pack of dual layer discs, branded by Rodisc, in a Factory Direct store. I must have tried five of those discs and all were bad burns. Took them back and requested another brand: Databyte. Same thing happened. Returned them and got a refund.

This problem was pretty unique, if you will, as both my old colmputer's Benq DW1620 and the Matsushita drive on my mother's laptop rejected discs from both brands.

I know Databyte has a stinky reputation as it is made from Ume. But what of Rodisc (and no, it's not Prodisc; the P is missing)? What is the disc ID?

Thank you for your help in advance.

[RodneyYouPlonker]

Robert, in future buy Verbatim.

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Also make sure that you're on the latest Firmware for your drive...

[RobertX]

I would, but Benq does not support its optical drives anymore.

EDIT: Rodney, it appears that I do have a question for you: how were your experiences with Verbatims when compared with other no-named brands?

Remember, I am not burning XBOX 360 backups; more like archival backups.

[RodneyYouPlonker]

Rodney, it appears that I do have a question for you: how were your experiences with Verbatims when compared with other no-named brands?

Hi again Robert, yeah sorry I only just read your post.  I have been very busy recently.  I regards to Verbatim, I would say that they are the best brand period.  I used to do tonnes of burning years ago, used to burn so many DVDs before the days of Blu Ray and I found that Verbatim were absolutely top.  I never had any bad burns with them.  I used to buy the DVD-R DL and also the DVD+R DL.  I tended to use more the DVD-R ones for burning movies so I could watch them on my DVD player.  From what I understand this would work much better as the DVD+R discs were not quite as good but good for burning data.  I have used DVD+R many times the Dual Layer ones are great but I always used Nero to burn with.  I have used for many years now Pioneer drives myself and I find these to be top.  They are not good now for all this 4K business due to problems with the Firmware.  They tend to make it now so that trying to rip 4K discs with a Pioneer drive is a big no no but other brands like Asus and LG are fine according to what I understand.

The Verbatim DVD-R Dual Layer discs have always been more expensive than the DVD+R Dual Layer discs I think there's just that little bit more room on them, +R is a little bit smaller in capacity.  For burning games I would use the +R and for movies the -R.  Never had any bad burns at all.  As long as you're careful and make sure that each time you burn a DVD always create whatever you're putting onto the disc first by making an image and then burning the whole image directly onto the disc so that way you don't run into problems.

I have always burned using images.  I've always found like for doing so Nero is a great program which from what I understand is German software and very good.  I've never bothered with other programs and I've found that creating images in Nero is very good also you just burn using the image creator.  I've always done loads of discs but now I don't tend to bother anymore I started to buy all my movies one day and gave up with DVD.  DVD might still be good for me to burn the odd Music or Concert DVD or something along those lines there's a few on rutracker.org worth getting.  Stuff that has never gone to Blu Ray and stuff that never will.

If you want to burn XBox then Verbatim discs are perfect.  I did at one point burn a few Playstation games years ago.  When I chipped mine it was good to burn them and much cheaper than buying them but I since gave up with all that.  I don't think though that Verbatim discs now are as easy to get hold of anymore.  I know a good place in my own country where you mostly pay for the delivery charges and the discs are very cheap indeed and even better prices than Amazon usually.  I'm sorry I can't go into too much details did buy some CD-R discs that were Verbatim some weeks ago so I could download some albums from rutracker and burn them when I feel like it.  Good to archive all this music sometimes instead of having it all on hard drives.  Having too much stuff on hard drives gets a bit much sometimes so good to use a Recordable Media and burn to that instead so you can put them in a cupboard or drawer and get out and make use of at a later date.  Also good when times like hard drives failing etc.. and having no backups of the data involved.

Have also used in the past CD-R discs that were TDK and they seemed very good also have avoided most other brands myself.  Never bought any BD-Rs at all in my whole life, found them to be very expensive and the Dual Layer discs are just rediculous in price, have avoided those for a long time and just tend to buy the movies instead cos it's not worth it for me.

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Sorry mate I just had to check I got that the wrong way around it is the DVD+R DL that have the largest capacity, DVD-R DL are slightly smaller.  I'd forgotten it's been a while since I bought any to be honest.  I can remember reading about it a while ago it's just that I'd forgotten which one was the largest.

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If I go back again to your very first original question you said how did I manage to get on compared to other brands.  I think the answer to that was that when I originally started out I remember I bought a spindle once of some cheapo CD-R discs and about every other 4 or 5 times I would burn one there would be one that would fail.  I was getting annoyed with that problem because I thought it was my fault and that I was doing something wrong but it wasn't me it was just the cheap discs that were the problem.  I think I binned them eventually they were a waste of money.  Every few discs they would fail and I would get the fail error in Nero.  Found that switching to a very good brand like Verbatim sorted out the problem and then I went on to burn literally hundreds of albums and into the thousands of DVD movies and they were absolutely fine.  Every time it would just work perfect.  If you want my opinion cheapo brand discs are just a con and should be avoided well and truly...

[RobertX]

I'll take that as experience; it's a fair-enough response.

OK, Verbatims it is.

A little tidbit: for those still burning PS2 backups, maybe you don't need Verbatims for those. I'm talking about burning DVD+R/-R, so it's a different ball game, but I find that using Ridata does a bang-up job with those.

As for Verbatims, I'll follow your advice, Rod. It's just that I can't seem to figure out why, in this world, that Verbatims are the only brand that you can rely on. It's not a very big world after all.

EDIT: You said that Verbatims are hard to get around. What about this: https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_..._id=041213

They may be expensive, but they're not "hard to get around," at least not where I live.

EDIT: Since I am going to use the RGH method for pirating XBOX 360 games, I'm not looking to burn XBOX 360 backups. I am using for software-archiving only.

[RodneyYouPlonker]

What I mean by that comment Robert is that a while ago there used to be more Verbatims around places like local supermarkets where you could pick them up easy.  But only the other day was in the local supermarket and all that was sold in recordable DVD was cheap brands.  Maybe these are the only ones that seem to sell of these companies but just don't like stocking stuff as it tends to just sit there for ages on the shelves.  Trouble is these days so many people now download and use digital media so all these days of discs and things don't seem as popular as they was but for me somebody who likes to try and make a CD just like an original will always want the discs but not everybody is like me.  There's a great many people out there who aren't into all this anymore and don't care.  Even more recently I see that places where I live are being shut down now and it's such a shame.  Places going out of business they simply aren't making the money anymore because of sites like Netflix and Spotify which I've never used myself and I don't plan on using in the future either I don't like to be spoon fed like all the people that use those sites.

I don't know really why I say Verbatim but see if you can find an alternative that is just as good.  Even if I was going to buy BD-R then I would invest my money in good quality discs and I wouldn't want to venture into buying budget discs because I know they don't work properly and have lots of problems.  I'd have to do more research into where exactly Verbatims are made and why they are so good but I can tell you that they've always been my favourite brand and just paying that bit more money each time to buy some you're certainly putting your money into quality and not just spending money on quantity instead where you find that loads are naff.  There's so many brands that do these sort of discs but after my earlier experiences was simply put off quite badly and felt that if I'm going to go out of my way to burn to some kind of media then I want it to go right and I want that data in whatever shape or form, format to be on the disc how it should be and not find that going back at a later date to see that the information on that said disc was actually incorrect or corrupt and to find that I'd just wasted my time and money.  At the end of the day I don't care how much they cost it's not about the cost with me it's about getting the job spot on and making sure there's no errors.  I want no error messages coming up or redundancy checks as it tries to read the disc in my computer.

Another way to look at it buying and cheap skating on discs you'll only find you have go out and buy the more expensive product that works anyway and having to spend even more money to put the thing right which is how these budget companies make their money like buying ink cartridges for example.  Buying the cheap ones you'll find that one day it leaks or something and breaks your printer and then it's a whole new printer job, again typical waste of money scenario.

[RobertX]

OK thanks, RodneyYouPlonker. I'll take your word and buy the Verbatim discs that I linked to this thread.

[RobertX]

Fuck it, I'm not using dual layers.

For two years, I've been burning with sub-dual layers and I'm saving money to buy a 2TB hard drive.

Mine as well concentrate on that.

Thanks anyways, Rod.

[RodneyYouPlonker]

Thanks anyways, Rod.

I hope you're gonna figure out what you can do Robert, I hope my advice was helpful, even if you don't need to buy any discs.  I have found that recently especially this month, been having to deal with lots of silly problems.  Trying to sort it all out really it's a lot of sorting out.  Trying to get there anyway but I just hope you can sort whatever you're having problems with yourself.

[RobertX]

OK, but thanks, Rod. I did learn quite a bit from you.

I'll try again if the price for a 20-pack DVD+R DL Verbatim comes down.