Project Veritas goes after the vaccine
#11
maybe the issue arises with the social media being able to dump info and making it easier for info to be convoluded? Meaning, the polio shot was just taken, no one made a fuss. Now with conspiracy theories and most easily accessed news info, it's easy to say people win "the darwin award" either if you do or don;t take it.

I took my shots (Pfizer) but if you don't take it then you shouldn't be branded a fool, or I shouldn't be branded a sheep for following the crowd.

the truth is in the middle, not on either side of any subject. Don;t be scared, OP, be informed Smile
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#12
My ex wife was forced as a health care worker to get it. She had open heart surgery among other things. Shes had no effects except the flu like symptoms from the 2nd shot... that lasted a day.
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#13
(Sep 22, 2021, 18:15 pm)ill88eagle Wrote: Ok so, to stay on topic and adress the now greenlit darwin awards, I don't think being dubious about a brand new big pharma vaccine grants you a darwin award anymore than jumping on board the corporate vax train. That's right mr Butler. I am calling you (and myself) retard(s) who's death will be worth commemorating online as stupid and funny.

Facts are: the covid shots have not gone through the numerous (and time consuming) medical trials that are otherwise demanded for a vaccine to be greenlit. In my own country we have banned two of them for not living up to standards / documentable serious side effects in too many test subjects (human cattle) - and being such a benevolent country we sold the shots we didn't want to the poor suffering 3rd world for profit.

I took the pfizer shot cause society here says so, and I have to comply if I want to participate. I got sick after the second shot. 3 days of bad flu. Got a lingering cough since. Might just be scandinavian late summer/early fall climate. Or I might just be deserving of a darwin award in the time to come. I have no way of knowing.

My brother inlaw had a bad stroke after getting the vaccine and he's still sick.  He was super healthy and really super physically fit.   I mean he lifted weights for years and ran 10 or more miles every day and did triathlon competitions and taught karate. He's still not good.

So I just kind of want to wait and see what happens.   I'm more scared of mobs making everyone do what they do because if they're wrong then they're only making things worse.
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#14
Vaxxed are at much higher risk of atherosclerotic involved diseases due to ACE2 cell destruction.
Symptoms can take years.
Prrobably should take 80mg aspirin daily for clotting effects.


Local doctor prescribes ivermectin prophylacticly for the vaxxed.
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#15
That is a nice steamy pile.
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#16
(Sep 23, 2021, 02:15 am)waregim Wrote: Vaxxed are at much higher risk of atherosclerotic involved diseases due to ACE2 cell destruction.
Symptoms can take years.
Prrobably should take 80mg aspirin daily for clotting effects.


Local doctor prescribes ivermectin prophylacticly for the vaxxed.

sounds like your local doctor kinda sucks.

as for the rest of your post, please cite your source.
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#17
Meanwhile, this shit is happening:  https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/v...d_nn_fb_ma

I didn't say, nor did I mean to suggest, that this shit is funny.  It's NOT.  Ironic, moronic, or one of the other onics perhaps, but NOT FUNNY.
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#18
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8354225/
Just one of hundreds of research articles on S-protein toxicity.
It goes back at least a decade, to SARS1.

Personally I never look at data not derived from NIH or other cardiovascular type journals.
I regard Dr. Mercola and his 'naturopaths' as quacks.

Dont search with Google. Use DDG.

The problem is that the 'Vaxx' is not a vaccine in any real sense of the word. Its the first time implementation of a GMO *like* procedure (uses cytoplasmic RNA instead of nuclear DNA) with potentially long term risks, and laboratory demonstrated short term toxicity, particularly clotting, rouleaux, and syncytia. One reference to the latter is:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33051876/

NB All the toxic effects described in wuflu research ascribed to the S or Spike protein apply particularly to the vaccines. It is the S-protein that causes nearly, if not all the toxic reactions from the virus. I have seen no research implicating other regions of the virus.
It is clearly a bad idea for a vaccines to be using the body's own cells as toxin (poison) factories.

This does not mean that the vaxxed are doomed. It does mean that those affected should be extra careful about inflammatory, and atheroscletotic diseases, particularly if they have a family history of them. T-Cell counts should be addressed or at least a few years, as lower counts due to MHC inhibition could predispose to cancer or infection.

The use of antihelminths in mRNA virology is rather new, because the study itself is rather new, mainly going back to MERS in the 70's when most vaccines became limited to veterinary applications, as the potential for long term toxicity was very high (Mareks, FIPS, Dengue in humans). The greatest problem with them was that mRNA is inherently unstable and vaccines against them could cause wildly varying reactions against the variants, from leakage (prevents illness but spreading the virus), to more lethal variants (vaccines produce mutations, not the unvaccinated), to the ADE reaction which actually makes a subsequent much more lethal. Google FIPS in cats.

The antihelminth treatments work by a relatively unknown mechanism. Its known that Ivermectin is quite similar in structure and function to Remdesivir, but that Remdesivir is a renal toxin. HCQ is a bit better understood as a Zinc ion channel promoter, which appears to dehydrate mRNA virions, as well as possibly block access to the ACE2 receptors.

All 'major' studies done with these substances either use clearly inappropriate dosages, or else leave out a key additional ingredient: Zinc.

The pharmaceutical industry is clearly guilty of suppressing key information about the vaccines, such as adverse effects (VAERS is normally not used by them, and its been reported that hospitals are discouraging its use), as well as keeping secret its potentially toxic adjuvants (needed to make sure the immune system does not target the vaccine on its way to infect cells).

The burden of proof is on the Korporations, but is actively suppressed by them.

Roughly a third of the medical profession is opposed to the vaxx.

(Sep 25, 2021, 15:56 pm)CaptButler Wrote: Meanwhile, this shit is happening:  https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/v...d_nn_fb_ma

I didn't say, nor did I mean to suggest, that this shit is funny.  It's NOT.  Ironic, moronic, or one of the other onics perhaps, but NOT FUNNY.

Whats not funny are the lies promulgated by NBC and other MSM.

Ivermectin is one of the safest medicines known. Massive overdoses have been known to cause only diahrrhea. 
Remdesivir, its close cousin is noted as a kidney toxin even at nominal dosages.

In India a prominent politician is being criminally charged for NOT allowing his state to use Ivermectin, as it was clearly shown to save hundreds of thousands of lives in that country. 

Data coming from countries like England (especially Gibralter), Israel, and others not controlled by the Washington Consensus media are showing massive amounts of infections among the vaccinated. Dr. Robert Malone, who invented the mRNA vaccine states that it is clearly ADE (google it) manifesting at this time. 

A complicating factor is that one can be fully vaccinated, but must wait at least two weeks after the last shot to be considered vaccinated. 

Show up at a hospital with respiratory problems from the vaccine 5 days after vaccination, get tested positive with the totally discredited PCR test - which cannot tell a spike protein from a virus if using the spike protein (instead of the nucleocapsid) as an antigen: and you are 'unvaccinated'. 

The problem with PCR is that if set high enough they will give false positives. On anything. They are supposed to be set to around 23 for a reasonable accuracy, but cannot tell a live from a dead virus, or if looking at S proteins - a vaccine from a virus. They can be set as low as 10-13 on fecal samples and give reasonable results, as is done in China, where surprisingly - vaccines are not mandated. The one they use is a traditional vaccine, but they realize that as with all RNA vaccines,  they are of limited use and efficacy. 

there has been massive fraud as hospitals have dialed into the 40's to get positive results and therefor more federal funds. There is in effect a reward for positive tests. 

There have already been clearly debunked stories pushed by the MSM over fake stories, like ivermectin poisonings, overwhelmed ICUs and patientsstacked like sardines - in hospitals proven by observation to be nearly empty. At the height of the crisis last year, many nursing staff were laid off. 

My point is that while the virus is defintely real, and probably more dangerous than the MSM portrays (ignoring Long Covid), is that the 'Vaccine' is not only fake, but dangerous, in that it presents the WRONG antigen to the immune system. It is the N (nucleocapsid) protein which should have been used. Especially as PCR testing is actually more accurate with it. 

The good new for the unvaccinated is that the delta variant actuially appears to be *less* virulent -as anticipated by virologists. But in Israel it appears to be more dangerous *to the vaccinated*. An effect typical of ADE. 



The vaxx itself does not claim to be a vaccine. Only a 'treatment' used to mitigate symptoms, and not even to prevent infection or its spread.

Another example of more typical research:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8354225/

More:
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/never...-treatment
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#19
Time will tell what the truth is.
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#20
(Sep 26, 2021, 09:24 am)LadyAnn Wrote: Time will tell what the truth is.

It always does. And has.

Also, the prodigious use of copypasta aligned with certain wackadoodle fringe beliefs does not a medical expert make.


EDIT:  Also also, taking medical advice concerning a deadly and very contagious pulmonary disorder from "a batshit insane Austrian school finance blog run by two pseudonymous founders who post articles under the name "Tyler Durden," after the character from Fight Club"* is playing Russian roulette.  Hard pass.
*  Not my own description, but I'm rolling with it.
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