Peter Sunde: The ‘Pirate Movement’ is Dead
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Well, I for one don’t give a flying fuck. I don’t care if the “pirate movement” lives, exists or whatever. I only care about the causes. Too much focus is put on the form, liveliness and influence of groups, organizations and nostalgic icons.

What’s the point on spending energy and resources (not to talk about lost publicity) to discuss the meta-debate about the form of the causes? It’s just pointless.

You’ve all heard it. The “pirate movement” is dead, diminishing and what not. But ignore that. What are the causes that we talk about here? Freedom of information, freedom of speech, surveillance, state corruption, corporate overlords, control of our infrastructure, the right to access education and culture, plenty. Are these discussions dead? No. But are we moving anywhere with them? I’m afraid not.

As I’ve said numerous times over and over again, we lost those battles. Now some people are refusing to give them up, in true Monty Python spirit, claiming that their beloved “pirate movement” is not dead. Mixing apples and pears.

Give up the idea of pirates being cool. They’re not. My biggest regret in my part in all of this was to use the word pirate. Not even Johnny Depp can make pirates look cool – and he manages to make cocaine-dealers look awesome. Pirates are awful. And today’s pirates – the ones in Somalia – also lost their battles. Good! So let’s get rid of this stupid culture of having a stupid culture.

In the essence of what a pirate means today – I’m talking the political pirate – I’m all in. But I’m also so much more and I hope you guys are as well. I hope you care about the bigger picture. The “pirate movement” does not have space for that though. So why would you limit yourself to that? Why would you spend your energy and time on something that has no working big picture? It’s a subset of politics that the “movement” has been dealing with. And that’s fine, but not in the form of a party.

A party needs to be able to have that ideological big picture view. Who can say what the “pirate movement’s” view on immigration is? Or the war against drugs and so on? It would be different in each country. There’s no alignment here.

So fuck the “pirate movement”. Rename it, re-brand it, do whatever you want. Just fucking don’t be a pirate. Be something more awesome. Be a world citizen that cares about the same topics. Join other parties and make them understand the topics at hand. Infiltrate them. Cooperate and have people join all the parties in your nation, make sure they all agree. Be a fucking undercover ninja for all I care. Just don’t sing songs about pirate booty, looting and shit.

Anyhow, i’m pretty sure we lost the big fight. But I don’t mind you guys trying to fix it. I’m involved no matter if I want to be or not anymore – but I’m spending my time on new approaches. I’m doing art and I’m traveling to tell you all that you’re stupid. It’s fun to do that. And fun is what’s missing in your beloved “pirate movement”.

You’re stuck in 2005. 10 years of history on the ‘nets is an insane amount of time for being stuck. For most it’s half of your life. And you’re refusing to evolve. If that’s the message of a “pirate movement” I don’t get why anyone wants to be involved.

The “pirate movement” is dead – yeeey! Long live everything else. This is the only essence of what used to be a “movement” that should be there. Ignite, re-ignite, burn and ignite again. Pyromania is creative.


About The Author

Peter Sunde is the former spokesperson of The Pirate Bay. He’s currently working for the micro-payment service Flattr, the encrypted chat client Heml.is and several other technology startups.  
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Originally Published: Sat, 04 Apr 2015 20:00:58 +0000
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#2
Hey Ernie, why did Peter send you here to air his anger fest? Big Grin
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#3
it's not really an anger fest. Peter just wants to rebrand things... it all goes back to the "let's call ourselves something other than pirates because the term 'pirates' present a negative mental image" thing.
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#4
bear in mind this is just an opinion of one guy, so even if "pirate movement" is
dead, its just a phrase, there are still people behind it and they are not
dead

Quote:And today’s pirates – the ones in Somalia – also lost their battles
maybe because they were doing wrong things
and "pirate movement" doing things that other people appreciate ?


and by the way if it is:
Quote:present a negative mental image" thing
maybe you should spell it as "peer-ates" ?
like "mates" in p2p networks ?
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#5
(Apr 05, 2015, 10:37 am)pirateware Wrote: maybe you should spell it as "peer-ates" ?
like "mates" in p2p networks ?

how about digital wish fairys?

dunno... i don't want to play the name game... that's why i'm not a politician.
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#6
It's not just about "negative mental images". It's about using a meaningful terminology. We don't use the term 'steal' when we copy either, even though certain lobby groups would like to confuse those terms.

Ole Stallman, who's not even a "pirate", sums it up better than Peter Sunde: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-...tml#Piracy
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#7
(Apr 05, 2015, 11:39 am)stormium Wrote: how about digital wish fairys?

What about just "normal people" who have the gift of giving?

I never approved of the term "piracy," but I just use it because it's a commonplace term. We can call ourselves pirates, devils, or saints, but it's all the same at the end of the day.
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#8
A political party needs a general view about everything: economics, migrants, religion, education, taxes, etc.
A pirate party is a joke. Sunde is right. You just can't vote to a party that's not defined in capital issues, it's just ridiculous.
Any ideology must be part of something bigger, i.e. a real political party, this is the "infiltrate" idea that Sunde uses in the article, and he's completely right about this.
Of course this party must be a left party, a true left one a mean. In a lot of countries the right wing parties are raising, so voting to a pirate party is not only useless, but counterproductive.
The term pirate is ancient. The more old it gets, the more inertia it gets. It's just boring, overwhelming, it kills debate, it's just stupid.
Back in the day it was supposed to be funny, witty. Now it's just an embarrasing joke that no one seems capable to get over.
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#9
You're a moderator and you think that too?

I have nothing against you, it's just a little confusing.

Anyway, in my opinion, it has always been the same fight, whether or not we are called 'pirates' or 'file-sharers' or anything.
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(Apr 05, 2015, 14:51 pm)RobertX Wrote: You're a moderator and you think that too?

I have nothing against you, it's just a little confusing.

Anyway, in my opinion, it has always been the same fight, whether or not we are called 'pirates' or 'file-sharers' or anything.

It's not a fight, it's sharing.
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