Of all the things to be called a racist for...

[soulcity]

I'm sorry but what are you even on about? Since when did I rationalize away the death of 5 children? I think you have a major misconception about what logic really is.

Do you even read my posts before responding to them? I thought I was quite clear in saying I belong to neither end of the political spectrum. So, save your anti-leftist agenda, as I'm not interested, it doesn't apply to me, and you're shadow boxing with yourself. I think the political system and parties is all BS meant to sow division within society. You are a perfect example that the strategy is working. You're not even hearing what others say but are fighting some invisible battle of idea(l)s within yourself.

In reality, the aristocrats never went away.

I won't entertain someone's verbal diarrhea so therefore I must somehow be stupid. (ie: Major misconception about what logic really is.) That's a really arrogant opinion that you have.

You claim to be on neither side of the political spectrum but then you tout the same anti-aristocrat trash that every Marxist does. I've seen the buildings burned down, the people pulled out of their cars and beaten, been called racist and bigot and I've heard all their hateful comments about America. All the people marching, protesting, killing and destroying sound similar and remarkably you come across as a sympathizer.

The fact is that BLM doesn't give a damn about African Americans because they haven't said a word about the 5 murdered children or any other black person murdered. They're more concerned about rewriting history and destroying the system than doing something positive like creating better and safer schools for African Americans. These people will do whatever they think they have to do to achieve their goals.

Now if can't get mad about the murder of children and your logic prevents you from seeing what's happening and what this is about... Then you have no right to be surprised when something bad happens to you.

[Fant0men]

I'm sorry but what are you even on about? Since when did I rationalize away the death of 5 children? I think you have a major misconception about what logic really is.

Do you even read my posts before responding to them? I thought I was quite clear in saying I belong to neither end of the political spectrum. So, save your anti-leftist agenda, as I'm not interested, it doesn't apply to me, and you're shadow boxing with yourself. I think the political system and parties is all BS meant to sow division within society. You are a perfect example that the strategy is working. You're not even hearing what others say but are fighting some invisible battle of idea(l)s within yourself.

In reality, the aristocrats never went away.

I won't entertain someone's verbal diarrhea so therefore I must somehow be stupid. (ie: Major misconception about what logic really is.) That's a really arrogant opinion that you have.

You claim to be on neither side of the political spectrum but then you tout the same anti-aristocrat trash that every Marxist does.  I've seen the buildings burned down, the people pulled out of their cars and beaten, been called racist and bigot and I've heard all their hateful comments about America.  All the people marching, protesting, killing and destroying sound similar and remarkably you come across as a sympathizer.

The fact is that BLM doesn't give a damn about African Americans because they haven't said a word about the 5 murdered children or any other black person murdered.  They're more concerned about rewriting history and destroying the system than doing something positive like creating better and safer schools for African Americans.  These people will do whatever they think they have to do to achieve their goals.

Now if can't get mad about the murder of children and your logic prevents you from seeing what's happening and what this is about... Then you have no right to be surprised when something bad happens to you.

>Assuming I don't have empathy because you don't.
>Wishing something bad happens to me because you can't comprehend my words.

Nice one. Did you learn that from Jesus? What about love and forgiveness?

[ill88eagle]

I doubt anybody is trying to justify killing here -except for the part about bringing in the national guard and gunning down the mob of course.

But let's examine the logic behind that argument. There are marxists within BLM and they are vocal about it. Now we have two circles for a neat venn diagram. It should be quite obvious that not all marxists are BLM people. Question is if all BLM are Marxists. I doubt it. I'm sure there's a lot of berniecrats (I'm sure you hate them too). But while Bernie's ideas are in many ways influenced by Marx, he is not a Marxist (Bernie is a social democrat like the ones we had in scandoland back in the 70ties and 80ties). There are probably Berniebros who are actually Marxists, but they dont make up all. Now we have a venn diagram that looks like this:



Now, during the recent riots, apparently 5 kids died. Whether they were killed on purpose by a malicious person or their deaths were accidental is unknown to me. But lets assume the worst. And that in all 5 cases someone from BLM did it. Go ahead and play pin the tail on the donkey with that venn diagram. Then explain to me how you reached the conclusion that all BLM are Marxists and all Marxists are baby killers.

[soulcity]

Did you learn that from Jesus? What about love and forgiveness?

Maybe you need to re-read the bible. I assure you that there are a whole lot of scriptures about standing your ground and not tolerating the wicked. Forgiveness requires repentance and if someone's not prepared to do that then there's nothing to forgive.

As for love... Well, the concept of Agape requires a certain level of loyalty towards God and it does not infer acceptance of someone's behavior/sin.

I'm not a bible thumper but I did grow up in the bible belt and debating the bible was frequently grocery store checkout line conversation.

[LZA]

Then explain to me how you reached the conclusion that all BLM are Marxists and all Marxists are baby killers.

Not being fresh, OP, but don't you think that's the type of thinking that got us into this mess? Black or white with no in-between?

All ldemocrats are Communists, all Republicans are NAZIs, all this's are that's etc. That the problem with mainstream thinking, This us against them is destructive behavior

And its the evil intentions behind these political sides or organizations that mix with good faith ideas that make you say, but communists are for everyone, how can you be against that? Republicans are for capitalism and for keeping what you earn, is that not American... But the communist wanna wreck the system with discourse, and the republicans just wanna strangle the middle class and keep their rich Illuminati klan in power. there HAS TO be a middle somewhere

The main media doesn't know this, they are one way or another. Let's say those 5 kids were adults and die for the cause... They die for a wrong cause (like most wars)... They are dying under the guise of equality for ALL black people in an attempt to make this country a better place.

the BLM got them killed not for black lives mattering, but for their agenda to topple the power structure knowingly omit the fact that it's ot all black lives, but the ones killed by white cops. If everyone was aware, BLM would not be as big

kneejerk emotional reactions is what they want! They want you to yell at people who wear confederate flags, they want you to get mad and wear confederate flags in support of your rights... DIVIDE and CONQUER!!! The media is the gas can ready to dump on all this shit to fan the flames of fury until we finally break apart and those commies win... and by commies, I use that word to describe the evil empire that will take us down.

They also make a point by saying the rich got away with too much too... again, there has to be a happy medium.

[soulcity]

Not being fresh, OP, but don't you think that's the type of thinking that got us into this mess? Black or white with no in-between?

All ldemocrats are Communists, all Republicans are NAZIs, all this's are that's etc.  That the problem with mainstream thinking, This us against them is destructive behavior

And its the evil intentions behind these political sides or organizations that mix with good faith ideas that make you say, but communists are for everyone, how can you be against that? Republicans are for capitalism and for keeping what you earn, is that not American... But the communist wanna wreck the system with discourse, and the republicans just wanna strangle the middle class and keep their rich Illuminati klan in power. there HAS TO be a middle somewhere

The main media doesn't know this, they are one way or another. Let's say those 5 kids were adults and die for the cause... They die for a wrong cause (like most wars)... They are dying under the guise of equality for ALL black people in an attempt to make this country a better place.

the BLM got them killed not for black lives mattering, but for their agenda to topple the power structure knowingly omit the fact that it's ot all black lives, but the ones killed by white cops. If everyone was aware, BLM would not be as big

kneejerk emotional reactions is what they want! They want you to yell at people who wear confederate flags, they want you to get mad and wear confederate flags in support of your rights... DIVIDE and CONQUER!!!  The media is the gas can ready to dump on all this shit to fan the flames of fury until we finally break apart and those commies win... and by commies, I use that word to describe the evil empire that will take us down.

They also make a point by saying the rich got away with too much too... again, there has to be a happy medium.

A.G. Barr was giving a speech the other day detailing the pernicious influence that the Chinese Communist Party is currently having upon Hollywood and our media in general. It could have been mistaken for 50's era McCarthyism, except for the fact that it is now entirely true and verifiable.

We have entered into a cold war with Chinese Communists, it is taking time for that to sink in to the public

Communism will be a persistent threat to western civilization until it's last supporter is wiped from the face of the earth. We allowed this threat to emerge by following the standard policy that overly optimistic liberals endanger us with time and again: when they see problematic behavior, rather than combat it outright they attempt to placate the bad guys. This in turn causes the problems to grow, our enemies to become stronger and more emboldened, and we end up with an even greater fight ahead of us than if we had simply nipped the problem in the bud.

[ill88eagle]

China has not been communist for decades. Mao was the last real Commie in that regime. After his death they adapted to global capitalism with a one party system. There are huge class differences in China. Also if the USA were to engage in a cold war with China they would literally be sawing off the branch they are sitting on.

[RobertX]

That's where I get off, ill88eagle, no disrespect by the way.

The way that the government is run by Xi Jing Ping, Communism is a big thing and is here to stay.

The last time I looked, he just declared himself ruler for life in stead of the same terms by Hu and Jiang.

Here https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-43361276
Mistreatment of Hong Kong, especially the massacre of 7/21/2019: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Yuen_Long_attack
Uighur Muslim Genocide: https://popularresistance.org/uyghur-gen...-in-china/

EDIT: So I for once agree with soulcity. If Xi is by any chance locked-up for life, I would not weep bitter tears of his plight.

Again, no disrespect. I spent twenty five years living in a country that doesn't allow human rights erosion the magnitude of how Mother China does. Sorry, but I have conviction on my side.

[ill88eagle]

That's where I get off, ill88eagle, no disrespect by the way.

The way that the government is run by Xi Jing Ping, Communism is a big thing and is here to stay.

The last time I looked, he just declared himself ruler for life in stead of the same terms by Hu and Jiang.

Here https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-43361276
Mistreatment of Hong Kong, especially the massacre of 7/21/2019: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Yuen_Long_attack
Uighur Muslim Genocide: https://popularresistance.org/uyghur-gen...-in-china/

EDIT: So I for once agree with soulcity. If Xi is by any chance locked-up for life, I would not weep bitter tears of his plight.

Again, no disrespect. I spent twenty five years living in a country that doesn't allow human rights erosion the magnitude of how Mother China does. Sorry, but I have conviction on my side.

I am not defending the Chinese govt here. Just pointing out that the only similarities between modern china and communism is the one party system. Fascist Italy, Spain and Germany had that too. They weren't communis states. Nor was Iraq. Communism at its core is not even about dictatorship- it's about the workers owning the means of production, like say if all employees at wall mart were shareholders in the corporation and had an equal share in the profits and an equal say about how to run it. You can't say that to be true about China. Or anywhere else really...

[RobertX]

OK, sounds reasonable.

An aside: to think, this was about racism. How did this thread become Communist?