Of all the things to be called a racist for...
#51
(Jul 18, 2020, 13:27 pm)ill88eagle Wrote: By definition, executing civilians because of their political leanings is terrorism.

It's them or us and I vote 'us.'

You have to be flipping insane to try and talk reason with fanatics that want to destroy everything and everyone that you love.
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#52
(Jul 18, 2020, 15:49 pm)soulcity Wrote:
(Jul 18, 2020, 13:27 pm)ill88eagle Wrote: By definition, executing civilians because of their political leanings is terrorism.

It's them or us and I vote 'us.'

You have to be flipping insane to try and talk reason with fanatics that want to destroy everything and everyone that you love.
That sounds like an emotional response. Thinking black or white, them or us just adds to the problem. I don't have an answer, but I know taking sides and fighting fire with fire on something you hate isn't it
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#53
(Jul 18, 2020, 15:58 pm)LZA Wrote: That sounds like an emotional response.

Have any of you actually heard (or read in this case) some of the stuff that many of you leftists say?   

We've had several weeks of releasing criminals from prisons, looting, rioting, arson, plans to defund the police and lots of violence.

And you're trying to mount a moral high horse by accusing me of having an 'emotional response?'  Well saddle up buddy because you're damn right I'm emotional.  There were 5 children murdered by those so-called peaceful protestors and I wont shed a tear if they were lined up against a wall and executed. 


FYI these are the names of the murdered children:
Sincere A. Gaston, age 1, Chicago, Illinois
Shaniya Gilmore, age 3, Baltimore, Maryland
Jasean Francis, 17, and Charles Riley, 16, Chicago, Illinois
Brandon Hendricks, 17, The Bronx, New York
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#54
(Jul 18, 2020, 15:49 pm)soulcity Wrote:
(Jul 18, 2020, 13:27 pm)ill88eagle Wrote: By definition, executing civilians because of their political leanings is terrorism.

It's them or us and I vote 'us.' 

You have to be flipping insane to try and talk reason with fanatics that want to destroy everything and everyone that you love.

The assertion that all "marxists" are fanatics who want to destroy everything and everyone that you love is as absurd as claiming that all muslims are terrorists. Which some people do claim. But you know, yelling that the earth is flat (some people claim that too) does not change it's geometry. And it certainly doesn't justify killing people who think differently.
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#55
(Jul 18, 2020, 16:59 pm)ill88eagle Wrote: The assertion that all "marxists" are fanatics who want to destroy everything and everyone that you love is as absurd as claiming that all muslims are terrorists.

LOL nice try

So we should just pretend to not see all that garbage about the proletarian revolution, overthrow of Capitalists and all that violent stuff that's killed +100 million people. I'm guessing those 5 murdered children are just the start of the entire new social order of equality.
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#56
(Jul 18, 2020, 16:49 pm)soulcity Wrote:
(Jul 18, 2020, 15:58 pm)LZA Wrote: That sounds like an emotional response.

Have any of you actually heard (or read in this case) some of the stuff that many of you leftists say?   

We've had several weeks of releasing criminals from prisons, looting, rioting, arson, plans to defund the police and lots of violence.

And you're trying to mount a moral high horse by accusing me of having an 'emotional response?'  Well saddle up buddy because you're damn right I'm emotional.  There were 5 children murdered by those so-called peaceful protestors and I wont shed a tear if they were lined up against a wall and executed. 


FYI these are the names of the murdered children:
Sincere A. Gaston, age 1, Chicago, Illinois
Shaniya Gilmore, age 3, Baltimore, Maryland
Jasean Francis, 17, and Charles Riley, 16, Chicago, Illinois
Brandon Hendricks, 17, The Bronx, New York

Thinking based on emotions prevents you from using logic. Emotional reasoning is based on the ego, whereas logic is just dealing with facts and the cold, hard reality of "what is".

Emotionally driven people will often deny facts because the real world makes them (their ego) feel uncomfortable, but unless you confront reality there's no way to make positive change. First one must admit and confront the truth before being able to change what is.

This is the reason why science has made more progress in a couple of centuries than religion has made in thousands of years. If you doubt that this is true, look around. Everything you need and use on a day-to-day basis is a practical application of things learned from science.

It's the emotionally-based reasoning that's the problem. You'll never get any truth that way.

The problem isn't Democrats or Republicans. The problem is both of them. You can pick your poison, but is that really freedom? Both aisles (red and blue) lead to the slaughter room. The system is inherently bad, and nothing good or sustainable can come out of it. I believe both parties are now just used to create division in society, so people will be busy fighting each other rather than fighting the system. Meanwhile, the top 1% is stealing more and more money and power with every bill that's passed.
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#57
(Jul 18, 2020, 18:43 pm)Fant0men Wrote: Thinking based on emotions prevents you from using logic.

If 'logic' allows someone to rationalize away the death of 5 young children then as far as I'm concerned they can shove their logic up their ass.
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#58
(Jul 08, 2020, 16:49 pm)LZA Wrote: Did you see last's nights What Would You Do?, where the actor went into a store with the confederate battle flag and a black actor publically questioned him? I saw the commercials but not that segment.

I have to say I agree with both of you. She has the right to dispute your right to wear it, but the cancel part (involving your boss and your livelihood ) is 100000% WRONG WRONG WRONG.

Yu have the right to get pisses they called you out, and they have the right to be triggered. We all have to find a way to take care of ourselves and not get angry because changing others minds can be an impossibility.

I think that the flag and statues should stay, because if we don;t remember our history we will have no point of reference to better ourselves. ALSO, are we better people or bigger shitheads by erasing what was done and pretending it never hapened??? I say we need to own our foolishness...

HAving said that, I'll never wear a confederate flag or a swastika for that matter, since IRL (despite what you read), I do know that there are those who are truly offended and or triggered and, it means so little to me I can lie and say I'm a better person for not being selfish (but I really don't wanna hear it)

Same with COVID masks... some say yes and some say no to wearing. I think the media overblew it and masks may not be as necessary, but I wear it because it's the less panicky thing to do. I've gotten into arguments because that's a sell-out move... but in a battle, you can't win? again, I just don't wanna hear it.

In this culture, feel free to wear it, but in this culture, you can't really be shocked people are offended, are you? Another is the BLM movement. I disagree with the organization because they are Marxists, but thinking people wanting others to know BLM I can agree with. They are saying "remember all of us"... If BLM, then ALL lives matter so the thought is decent. Canceling cops and the political BS is stupid.  Kinda like I wonder if they thought you didn't care about lives because you wore that flag???

I can go on and, on, but IRL, I just wanna be left the fuck alone. Even conversing, here I can say what I think but some people IRK don't get it. Context clues show tat no matter how much logic, people will think Ideals are identities, and even with your best of intentions, you'll be deemed a racist since you wear something in an attempt not to favor racism or even the south, but that you are going to wear what you wanna. The media and last place trophy fags will convolute it not to make a point, but to show that ALL that think different are EVIL..

Sorry... World we live in now...I picked a bad time to get sober...
If i may ask, why do you think blm are Marxists? I understand that a blm supporter  is more likely to be sympathetic to leftist parties but I dont see how you can generalize the group as marxist when it isnt really an organization that has a common set of goals besides "muh racism bad"
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(Jul 19, 2020, 02:56 am)hyp Wrote: If i may ask, why do you think blm are Marxists? I understand that a blm supporter  is more likely to be sympathetic to leftist parties but I dont see how you can generalize the group as marxist when it isnt really an organization that has a common set of goals besides "muh racism bad"
Actually, The BLM leaders have confirmed Marxists. They are pushing a political agenda to screw with the cops by saying that they kill blacks.  They kill whites too, but they don't care. And Don Lemon was saying that it was just about cops/black lives.

if Black Lives really mattered, they'd care for the clack on black crime in Chicago of all places.





Terry crews says ALL black lives should matter see 6:18 were Lemon CONFIRMED BLM doesn't mean all black lives.

For that, and that most people don't know, I say Fuck the movement... But I agree with the statement and spirit of the concept.
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#60
(Jul 19, 2020, 00:40 am)soulcity Wrote:
(Jul 18, 2020, 18:43 pm)Fant0men Wrote: Thinking based on emotions prevents you from using logic.

If 'logic' allows someone to rationalize away the death of 5 young children then as far as I'm concerned they can shove their logic up their ass.

I'm sorry but what are you even on about? Since when did I rationalize away the death of 5 children? I think you have a major misconception about what logic really is.

Do you even read my posts before responding to them? I thought I was quite clear in saying I belong to neither end of the political spectrum. So, save your anti-leftist agenda, as I'm not interested, it doesn't apply to me, and you're shadow boxing with yourself. I think the political system and parties is all BS meant to sow division within society. You are a perfect example that the strategy is working. You're not even hearing what others say but are fighting some invisible battle of idea(l)s within yourself.

In reality, the aristocrats never went away. They never abdicated their power, and the ("democratic") system we have now is just a silly circus meant to keep us entertained and busy, not realizing the uppermost (political) elite still consists of the same aristocratic bloodlines that have been in power for thousands of years. Once you really look at the family tree of elites, they're all related somehow.

I'm not a fan of the Black Lives Matter movement either, as that's just yet another example of a movement that claims to stand for peace and unity, but is actually just a symptom of the problem. It's not possible to make peace by fighting a war of identity and ideals. All lives matter, and that should be quite obvious to everyone. Sadly, these labels and groups are like blinders. When you think you belong to a group you're just intensifying the conflict. By saying Black Lives Matter, or vice versa, you've already identified with a race, and hence are in conflict with the rest of the world.

"I belong to this group, and everyone outside of this group better join it or be my enemies"

Since when has that ever worked? It's obvious to me the solution isn't to increase identification with labels and groups, but to realize oneself as but a wave on the surface of the ocean that is the world. The wave isn't separate, but is actually arising as a part of the ocean, and it would not exist if it wasn't for the ocean. That's enough spirituality for today. Come back tomorrow for another nugget of truth...

Or, you know, keep fighting this pointless war of identity. Your choice.
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