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Its got nothing to do with capitalism, socialism, feudalism, etc.
A tactic used by all.
Its about the power base deflectiing attention away from itself and its anti-social policies.
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(Jul 09, 2020, 19:37 pm)ill88eagle Wrote: As far as statues goes, how did you feel when they pulled down the Lenin statue in ex DDR? Or the Saddam statue in Iraq... And hey, don't you think it's a shame there are no Hitler statues around public spaces in Germany, I mean, it's history right?
Save the statures but shoot the mob and all social justice warriors.
I have no problem if someone wants to put a plaque on a statue of Hitler to explain history. In fact I'm all in favor of it!
However, destroying historical monuments is nothing less than the kind of work that the "Ministry of Truth" did. "MiniTrue," was the government manufacturing its own version of reality. I t rewrote history to create propaganda and removed as many words from the English language as possible in order to reduce the public's ability to think. MiniTrue's role is to keep the population misinformed with lies and lack of information in order to maintain total control over every aspect of society.
(Jun 30, 2020, 23:36 pm)soulcity Wrote: Myself and several other homeschooling parents have been singled out for special attention by a newly formed community civil rights group. I got hand delivered a letter today explaining to me that I'm doing my child an injustice and that I'm setting her up to become racist.
(Jul 08, 2020, 17:58 pm)soulcity Wrote: <snip> ...inner city schools and schools with a large percentage of African American children are a pathetic joke.
You would cringe with horror and fear if you ever spent a day in one of those schools. The teachers are trying damn hard to teach those kids but the students are violent, ignorant, stoned, etc.
A huge percent of those kids don't even know who their father is and their mother is not much better. Children as young as 2 have been left alone in the home for days at a time while the mother is out partying, getting laid or doing drugs.
My point is that what keeps Black Americans down is Black Americans.
just bringing these back around for anyone too lazy to read the whole thread:
this is the either the product of delusion or master trollery. racists aren’t always the most rational nor thought provoking bunch, but this. THIS is some kind of batshit bigot logic or a long, long con. if you read some of op’s other threads, you’ll probably get a headache from all the stupid, so be warned... but then... more stupid... and then you get this and it’s like... really? wtf just happened?
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Jul 12, 2020, 13:45 pm
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I missed those, and yes, I've read posts about setting up porn cameras, watching first episodes of dukes of Hazzard, etc... 3 sides to a story. I like to respond to shit at face value, I can't look too much into it so I get no headaches. Probably batshit bigotry coming from a place of extreme naivety or sheltered. I was thinking of the kid becomes a racist, its due to the same sheltering OP must have been through. MAybe not hatred based, but a racist through stupidity.
(Jul 11, 2020, 20:54 pm)soulcity Wrote: (Jul 09, 2020, 19:37 pm)ill88eagle Wrote: As far as statues goes, how did you feel when they pulled down the Lenin statue in ex DDR? Or the Saddam statue in Iraq... And hey, don't you think it's a shame there are no Hitler statues around public spaces in Germany, I mean, it's history right?
Save the statures but shoot the mob and all social justice warriors.
I have no problem if someone wants to put a plaque on a statue of Hitler to explain history. In fact I'm all in favor of it!
However, destroying historical monuments is nothing less than the kind of work that the "Ministry of Truth" did. "MiniTrue," was the government manufacturing its own version of reality. I t rewrote history to create propaganda and removed as many words from the English language as possible in order to reduce the public's ability to think. MiniTrue's role is to keep the population misinformed with lies and lack of information in order to maintain total control over every aspect of society.
that's emotions... I wish the culture would not be where people thinking defacing staues is actually "doing something" I'll reiterate my prior post... These are last place trophy winners who dont know how to inact real change or recognize the situation for what it is, so they do anything and demand props (last place trophy). There is so mush disconnect from the upbringing of children and how the real world works... The BLM MOVEMENT (not the thought), comes in and Okie doke these fools into pushing their agendas which have nothing to do with black Lives... These are useful idiots.
A secondary form of the useful idiot (IMO) is someone on the other side who hates what they stand for but don't know why... OR, the sinister part is they somehow trigger inert racism (or whatever -ism) so the BLM or these SJWs can say "we're right! LOOK at this". which serves to show as an illustration of why the original threat is needed.
Again, I ask why now do the statues mean anything, and yes, history should be preserved. preserved, but not celebrated. Another thing is, do the statues celebrate or just remind us of history? answer: It's individual opinions. my opinion,, I don't care about it. I want history to be preserved but I don't want the majority of people feeling bad about looking at something. These southern war heroes had statues in (i believe) a good faith attempt to honor an American.
But then again, I just watched a video about black boxer Jack Johnson... They did everything they could to discredit him because they couldn't find a honkey to beat him... SO, these statues may be a last F-you to the backs... NOt my place to decide... We should use the democratic process and vote.
Jews hate Hitler, but there are museums on the Holocaust. I would think true blacks DON'T want anyone to forget since that's a pain their people endured. my fear is people feeling REAL feelings about it are being ignored for these loudmouth do-gooders who wanna nuke the past because they are only butt-hurt
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This statue problem has an already tried and tested solution: "The Hungarian Solution" as I call it. Soon after The Great Commieism Implosion in Eastern Europe, the authorities in Budapest collected all the commie statues throughout the city and re-erected them in a single walled city park. That way all of the old-line Stalinists and other commies could still do their obeisances to their tin gods all in one place.*
In the same fashion, all of the statues of Confederates, secessionists, slavers and segregationists can be gathered onto a distinct park for worship by the neo-Confederates, kluxxers, boogieloots and other galoots. Problem solved.
*The Hungarians may end up having to apply their solution again, but for fascist idols next time.
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(Jul 12, 2020, 13:45 pm)LZA Wrote: I missed those, and yes, I've read posts about setting up porn cameras, watching first episodes of dukes of Hazzard, etc... 3 sides to a story. I like to respond to shit at face value, I can't look too much into it so I get no headaches. Probably batshit bigotry coming from a place of extreme naivety or sheltered. I was thinking of the kid becomes a racist, its due to the same sheltering OP must have been through. MAybe not hatred based, but a racist through stupidity.
These are useful idiots.
Useful idiots have always existed but they seem to be growing in number. So I'll add this to the above 'useful idiot' comment...
Very very few people on the Internet actually know me in real life and even less have a clue who I might be.
The overwhelming vast majority of people have no idea of what kind background I come from; the obstacles I've had to overcome; the problems I'm currently dealing with or what's is important to me. But there's a group of moralist hypocrites screaming that we're not supposed to judge someone because of their skin color that judge me because of mine; what old TV shows I enjoy; my outdated MP3 player and that I once considered webcam work in order to pay my bills.
So perhaps they're 'Useful Idiots' for someone. Unfortunately for me, they're only idiots because I can't find anything useful about them.
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(Jul 15, 2020, 11:09 am)soulcity Wrote: Useful idiots have always existed but they seem to be growing in number. So I'll add this to the above 'useful idiot' comment...
Very very few people on the Internet actually know me in real life and even less have a clue who I might be.
The overwhelming vast majority of people have no idea of what kind background I come from; the obstacles I've had to overcome; the problems I'm currently dealing with or what's is important to me. But there's a group of moralist hypocrites screaming that we're not supposed to judge someone because of their skin color that judge me because of mine; what old TV shows I enjoy; my outdated MP3 player and that I once considered webcam work in order to pay my bills.
So perhaps they're 'Useful Idiots' for someone. Unfortunately for me, they're only idiots because I can't find anything useful about them.
Nobody is judging you by anything but your own words here. You wrote a thread complaining that somebody is calling you racist. At the same time you open heartedly and outspokenly share views that are just that: racist. Nobody is telling you to GTFO or anything. We just state the obvious. Like it or not, some people find racist views offensive. But as this is a forum dedicated to free speech, nobody is going to tell a racist to shut up, unless he becomes as annoying as qiiksand. You're miles away from that. I doubt you will ever come close to reaching his absurd level.
As for going through tough shit, you know, we all do, and we all have, and you shouldn't assume stuff about people here either. Other than what they directly express of course. Me for example, I am a more commie than they come, anarchist and antifa to spike it up (that is short for anti fascist in case you are wondering). I am a blatant race traitor, and my only problem with BLM is that they are being appropriated by mainstream capitalist interrests.
If you wanna banter though, I recommend you take it to the void. You can join by opening your user CP and clicking on group memberships to your left, then click on 'join the voiders' or whatever it says...
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(Jul 15, 2020, 12:45 pm)ill88eagle Wrote: Nobody is judging you by anything but your own words here. You wrote a thread complaining that somebody is calling you racist. At the same time you open heartedly and outspokenly share views that are just that: racist.
1. Liking an old show and old cartoons is not being racist
2. Keeping my old MP3 player is not being racist
3. Looking for ways to earn money to pay my bills is not being racist. (it's being responsible)
4. Wearing a Confederate flag is not being racist
5. Citing facts that inner city schools are cesspools of dysfunctionalism is not being racist
6. Calling the destruction of statues stupid is not being racist
7. Being an unapologetic capitalist and believer in Ayan Rand is not being racist
8. Worrying only about my life, my family and my friends is not being racist.
But being a member of the Klu Klux Klan is absolutely racist and the last I checked I'm not a member and I've got no interest in signing up.
So yes... I'm completely being judged by a handful of people on here.
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(Jul 15, 2020, 12:45 pm)ill88eagle Wrote: If you wanna banter though, I recommend you take it to the void. You can join by opening your user CP and clicking on group memberships to your left, then click on 'join the voiders' or whatever it says... Click on join the voiders group. Then at the bottom of the forum lists under this General Discussion forum, you'll see The Void.
And yeah, OP. I KNOW by myself what I went through and what I post, it would be virtually impossible to figure out who I am as a person IRL. Even if I mean something it can come out incorrect because emotion is lost through posting. So I go by all I have; like Eagle says, post history. I even say I'm too dumb to articulate my feelings to words, and my biggest issue is applying my thought process to others.
I'm not doing that to you only to take what you write as is and to know it's not all there is. I mean no offense, but because its hard to have real communication here, my thought is to be as brutally honest as possible so if I'm wrong, you can be brutally honest back and I'll actually learn something. Eagle is better at it than I am, but he's helped me remember that. So If I offended you, I'm sorry for the miscommunication, not necessarily what I say, We're all different (which is why you are having issues with racist comments, or the accusations of such).
NO one worthy of anything here is judging you as a person (how can they when they don't KNOW you as a person). we will, however, judge your statements. A huge problem in the USA is that people take others' ideas and equate them to their identities which is wrong. If you love Trump or Biden or Stalin r whoever... it's not the sole reason one should like hate another, BUT putting posts together kinda indicates a pattern of thinking. You do you, but like the other thread, if you metaphorically say something that parallels wearing your confederate flag, people will call you out. should NEVER be taken personally though...
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(Jul 15, 2020, 13:02 pm)soulcity Wrote: 1. Liking an old show and old cartoons is not being racist
Depends on the show and the reasons why you like it tho. Lotsa racist shit in older disney for example
(Jul 15, 2020, 13:02 pm)soulcity Wrote: 2. Keeping my old MP3 player is not being racist
3. Looking for ways to earn money to pay my bills is not being racist. (it's being responsible)
Nobody said that
(Jul 15, 2020, 13:02 pm)soulcity Wrote: 4. Wearing a Confederate flag is not being racist
5. Citing facts that inner city schools are cesspools of dysfunctionalism is not being racist
6. Calling the destruction of statues stupid is not being racist
You are conveniently avoiding to mention the contexts of those posts and what you actually wrote (that public school sucks because black people for example). You also forgot to mention complaining about BLM every chance you get.
You've been called out on all four counts by me and others cause these all ring the same red bell.
(Jul 15, 2020, 13:02 pm)soulcity Wrote: 7. Being an unapologetic capitalist and believer in Ayan Rand is not being racist
Not necesarily but pretty offensive in my book either way.
(Jul 15, 2020, 13:02 pm)soulcity Wrote: 8. Worrying only about my life, my family and my friends is not being racist.
Nope. I don't seem to recall anybody implying that ever either.
(Jul 15, 2020, 13:02 pm)soulcity Wrote: But being a member of the Klu Klux Klan is absolutely racist and the last I checked I'm not a member and I've got no interest in signing up.
So yes... I'm completely being judged by a handful of people on here.
I don't take you for one of those cuck klux extremists. But you did say "shoot the mob" a few posts back, and that is pretty extreme in my book too.
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