Life is but a dream. The Forbidden Ways.

[dueda]

I can only say "Oh, my"...

[LZA]

I'm sure we'll all be sorry after we die, not because we will go to a make believe hell , but that we'll really know the times when we had a chance to act good, yet acted poorly. It will not be a punishment like you describe, but a fact that there were lessons we could have learned yet didn't.

We are all on a spiritual plane to better ourselves as inner spirits. I happen to believe that reincarnation is possible and we can live another life to correct the errors we are making now. What I know will hurt me as a spirit is how many times I lived this life, making the same mistakes. But make no mistake. It will be the thought of a spiritual failure in this regard that will act like the punishment, not some guy with a pitchfork and horns burning me since I said "god dammit" or "Jesus Christ" in vain, for example.

I can see where you are trying to go but you are misguided. If you have info, you can share it with others and if the message will stick to a certain person it will stick, if not, then nothing ventured nothing gained. It's not like you will unleash a hell giving people info they shouldn't have.

My belief is if we have infinity, we live here on a human level trying to perfect our spirit and we take as many tries as we need to get there. Evil things are necessary as that teaches us that there is an equal an opposite good to try to achieve (scientific way of looking at it..Equal and opposite reaction type stuff). If it was day all the time, it wouldn't be called day, it would be what is... Just like good and evil... We won't appreciate good if there was no evil to balance it out and give us a distinction between the two. But we will not be punished for not learning the first time... Just another chance to correct it.

The punishment concept was invented by humans to force a sense of being good to each other so as not to destroy each other. Just like there are laws, because some people don't know that we shouldn't be robbing, raping, and eating each other... Some people don't have the mental capacity to know that's not the way to learn life lessons. It's the difference between right and wrong on a human, logical sense, but on a spiritual level, it's acting like what we chose to believe is god, and how he would act.

That is just my opinion. I could be wrong. Like a friend of mine says, it can just end when we die. I'll take comfort thinking my way because if we do just die, I'd hate to think my life was a waste making mistakes... The good thing is, if he's right and we do cease to exist I'll be gone and not know that I was actually wrong... I'm believing what I believe to take care of myself when I'm still here, and conscious to actually worry about it.

[Future]

Mr. Masami it's not a tit bozo, anyway you'll be eating your words. LZA you are right about infinity, it exist with reality. There's nothing biblical about the heavens, they exist along with everything else. I can tell you there's nothing truly evil out there throughout infinity, no one is truly born evil, evil is made, the devil is not real but demons are, but like I said they are just the damned. You won't be simply gone unless you're nothing, we do have a soul and consequences to all our actions whether good or bad. So we move on after life depending how we did in our previous life, that's why we have a hell to punish evil people that's all. It's not that I'm pushing a belief, it's not a belief about God or the Heavens and Hell, I'm telling you they are truly there and they exist that's my message. If you don't believe me than never mind, just live and believe in what ever you want. There's no wrong it that. Also I have added something to the original post, I've exposed the truth about our religion.

[Mr.Masami]

@Future, Sorry but I can't read your blocks.

I know what's after death, I was already dead - before being alive. There's NOTHING. And I LOVE IT, because infinite existence would be fucking boring.

[LZA]

Mr. Masami it's not a tit bozo, anyway you'll be eating your words. LZA you are right about infinity, it exist with reality. There's nothing biblical about the heavens, they exist along with everything else. I can tell you there's nothing truly evil out there throughout infinity, no one is truly born evil, evil is made, the devil is not real but demons are, but like I said they are just the damned. You won't be simply gone unless you're nothing, we do have a soul and consequences to all our actions whether good or bad. So we move on after life depending how we did in our previous life, that's why we have a hell to punish evil people that's all. It's not that I'm pushing a belief, it's not a belief about God or the Heavens and Hell, I'm telling you they are truly there and they exist that's my message. If you don't believe me than never mind, just live and believe in what ever you want. There's no wrong it that. Also I have added something to the original post, I've exposed the truth about our religion.

Angels and demons are just a metaphor for good and bad energy. I think the spiritual world is more scientific than religious. Like, a dimension we cannot see. The punishment is just the circumstance you find yourself in after you make a certain set of choices that put you where you are. There is no "punishment" I just can't believe in that. Life is just choices and negotiations, and living with the results. So you can put yourself in hell, but you can dig yourself out . You can live the privileged life, but fall into a hellish type circumstance if you make the wrong choices. Especially if you have no prior bad experiences to draw from to make you realize that the opposite of good can exist.

just a helpful FYI: If you are just trolling and spreading aidz, then never mind, but you should avoid saying definitive things like "you'll eat your words" or, "you'll be sorry". It makes the point you're trying to make more difficult to concentrate on and people will be less open to your opinion since it sounds combative ( I know how to aidz).  Even though I may not agree with everything you say, I can at least hear your opinion and consider it,  since I know I'm not 100 % correct either.  BUt people get turned off when you outright tell them they'll be sorry for not listening.  Just an observation.

@Future, Sorry but I can't read your blocks.

I know what's after death, I was already dead - before being alive. There's NOTHING. And I LOVE IT, because infinite existence would be fucking boring.

That's why I believe that we chose to forget ourselves with each life we take. My point is, this may be the 10000000000000000000th time we are here, but it isn't boring since we chose to forget who we are. Our essence is always there though, which is why we can better ourselves, and that's the goal.

Bear with me on this (I know this sounds like BS to some): Let's say you wanted to start exercising... but something keeps telling you, "tomorrow, tomorrow"... That "tomorrow" you are hearing is the echo of your past lives, and that you never actually did anything. Life repeats. BUT when you finally push past and give into what you want, to have succeeded on getting the record to stop skipping and are now living on a different plane.  That's why you should always just go for things you want.  Sucess is the goal. Failures are not failures if you try, they are lessons.  The only failure is if you don't try

That's why we don't stay in a spiritual state (metaphorical heaven). Knowing all there is and that you can never be hurt, and you'll never want for anything, IS boring. Getting it with the thought it can be taken away, is living. i.e. no danger in heaven, so no excitement either

[Mr.Masami]

Angels and demons are just a metaphor for good and bad energy. I think the spiritual world is more scientific than religious. Like, a dimension we cannot see. The punishment is just the circumstance you find yourself in after you make a certain set of choices that put you where you are. There is no "punishment" I just can't believe in that. Life is just choices and negotiations, and living with the results. So you can put yourself in hell, but you can dig yourself out . You can live the privileged life, but fall into a hellish type circumstance if you make the wrong choices. Especially if you have no prior bad experiences to draw from to make you realize that the opposite of good can exist.

That's what I was always thinking about people who really believe in their religion, if you believe in something - it is real but only for you.
It may make you a better and stronger person, especially if you are afraid of own death / death of a close person or have some psychological problems that you can't cope with.

I have a friend who is also non-believer as me (well, actually I am believer, I believe in my self), that hate people who are religious for just the fact that they are.
They don't interfere with his life but for some reason he hates them, this is very common among non-religious people unfortunately.
Maybe because people who are religious tend to say "you will burn in hell for not praising thy lord", or just because they are "different" and he thinks he is smarter than them.

Well, I like the saying "live and let live" or something like that in English. And our lives are so short, lets make the best out of it, not the worst.

BUt people get turned off when you outright tell them they'll be sorry for not listening.  Just an observation.

You are a good observer my friend.

That's why I believe that we chose to forget ourselves with each life we take. My point is, this may be the 10000000000000000000th time we are here, but it isn't boring since we chose to forget who we are. Our essence is always there though, which is why we can better ourselves, and that's the goal.

Bear with me on this (I know this sounds like BS to some): Let's say you wanted to start exercising... but something keeps telling you, "tomorrow, tomorrow"... That "tomorrow" you are hearing is the echo of your past lives, and that you never actually did anything. Life repeats. BUT when you finally push past and give into what you want, to have succeeded on getting the record to stop skipping and are now living on a different plane.  That's why you should always just go for things you want.  Sucess is the goal. Failures are not failures if you try, they are lessons.  The only failure is if you don't try

That's why we don't stay in a spiritual state (metaphorical heaven). Knowing all there is and that you can never be hurt, and you'll never want for anything, IS boring. Getting it with the thought it can be taken away, is living. i.e. no danger in heaven, so no excitement either

Just imagine the whole universe being in a time loop that can't be detected (so far)... is this impossible ? nothing is impossible. Fascinating and scary at the same time.

As for what is this world we are living it, I don't know for sure (and no one is) but I tell you only this that I've seen things and heard things that would make your hair white, I never told anyone about it because they would think I'm crazy.

Oh shit, now I look like the "Future named Mark Copyright 2018" who has a secret but don't want to tell it.

[Future]

'You'll be sorry' for not realizing the truth that's all, not for listening, you misread it. And you're a bad observer Masami lol. And I meant what I said, you will be sorry after you die.
Well whatever you want to believe it's up to you, but I've done my part and millions of people know this information by now. This is not the only place I've exposed the truth. Ok, have a good one.

[hypno-potamous]

'You'll be sorry' for not realizing the truth that's all, not for listening, you misread it. And you're a bad observer Masami lol. And I meant what I said, you will be sorry after you die.
Well whatever you want to believe it's up to you, but I've done my part and millions of people know this information by now. This is not the only place I've exposed the truth. Ok, have a good one.

Your avatar is the third step and I already knew this stuff so...

[Future]

Just stay tuned, there's more to come.

[dueda]

Just stay tuned, there's more to come.

That won't be necessary. Thank you for your time. The world will end for not being a member of The Sons of Xena and Kirk Followers.

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