Cracking online programs
#1
I was wondering how the future of software-cracking will look like when all software will require logging in online to retrieve information necessary for the software to work.

For example, Active Sky Next is a live weather engine that downloads weather reports every few minutes. It requires the registered user to login with his account, it then checks his login information with his IP address and MAC address, and when all checks out, it sends him the files and the weather reports he requires to use the program.

Because this programs depends almost 100% on the web and updates the weather constantly, it has been said that it's uncrackable.

So, all software developers have to do to prevent cracking their programs is to develop similar software.

Can anyone shed some light on the issue? Are these programs really uncrackable?
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#2
Web depending programs are uncrackable only if the developer knows how to code smart. They can still be cracked however but there must exist a third party proxy server to make the requests. The explanation and the logic is complex, but there are several ways. Wink
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#3
(Nov 12, 2015, 07:00 am)dolly_cat Wrote: Web depending programs are uncrackable only if the developer knows how to code smart. They can still be cracked however but there must exist a third party proxy server to make the requests. The explanation and the logic is complex, but there are several ways. Wink

Does that apply even if the developer is "smart coding" like you said? Is there always a way to crack if your smart enough?
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#4
Mostly, yes. But that depends: if the program works server side or requires login, this usually can't be cracked because the information is stored online, and can't be changed nor forged.
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#5
Yeah, that's what I meant. So eventually, at some point in the future, all programs will require login, I guess, and therefore will be uncrackable.

Thanks dolly_cat
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#6
Well, let's hope this won't happen so soon...
Your welcome Wink
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#7
Firstly, all programs will NOT eventually require login. For the simple reason that there are places that do not have internet access, even places that most likely never will have access eg. deep underground and deep underwater. There are also times during which people do not have net access, either by choice or by virtue of net failures. Finally, there are and will always be people who cannot afford permanent net access.

Secondly, even if every single program did require a permanent connection to the internet and login to a central server, that alone wouldn't mean that they would be uncrackable.  There would still be an executable sitting on a local device, sending and receiving messages, and the code responsible for sending and receiving those messages, and for deciding what to do based on their content, will still be there and still be able to be modified.

Thirdly, even if they were uncrackable that wouldn't mean they were unspoofable.  The only thing "proving" the identity of the person logging in is an electronic signal after all, which in our mobile world can (legitimately) originate from anywhere and from any device.  Even if there was biometric scanning, what would stop me scooping your eyeball out with a teaspoon and presenting that to the scanner? Or hacking the database containing the reference scan of your eyeball (we've all seen over and over and over again how insecure corporate and government databases are), or buying a copy of it from a hacker, or even just downloading it from TPB which is where many hack results end up, and using a 3D printer to print a copy of your eyeball for my own use? Were it to ever to become common, you wouldn't even need to print an eyeball because someone would create a device that would let you "mount" the biometrics to produce virtual copies in the same way that apps like Daemon Tools already let you mount disk images that appear to your device as "real" DVDs.

Besides which, freeware exists today.  Why would it not continue to exist tomorrow?  In fact why, with the ever increasing sophistication of developer tools and the ever increasing spread of education both combining to create an ever increasing supply of potential developers, is it not more likely that there will be even more freeware in future than there is today?

Your doomsday scenario has more holes than a Swiss cheese.
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#8
lol. I've never been more glad to be proven wrong in public.

Thanks Supermod
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#9
Never taught of spoofing... Thanks for info Smile
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