Backup on DropBox
#1
Hello, I'm thinking in putting all my media in DropBox, since I can get an enterprise account for 15€ / month, I like having the data physical with me, but it's expensive and I've a lot of data (movies, music, comics, etc), I've research about DropBox and looks like they have a DRM that goes through all the data, usually they only block when a media is shared, but I don't intend to share, just use for a backup, for personal use, the problem is that I don't like very much putting things in the cloud, you know, privacy. Opinions?
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#2
(Jul 14, 2021, 02:53 am)Luke Skywalker Wrote: Hello, I'm thinking in putting all my media in DropBox, since I can get an enterprise account for 15€ / month, I like having the data physical with me, but it's expensive and I've a lot of data (movies, music, comics, etc), I've research about DropBox and looks like they have a DRM that goes through all the data, usually they only block when a media is shared, but I don't intend to share, just use for a backup, for personal use, the problem is that I don't like very much putting things in the cloud, you know, privacy. Opinions?

Thr Cloud is NOT your friend. Even when it is free.

Advise: Get an external USB Dock, a few extra large hard drives - and use them to store/host your data.
You may have difficulties in Win accessing from remote without using RDP (forbidden here), bt it shouldnt be hard setting up a local server (xampp and a software like wordpress or drupal set up for file access).

For remote access an OpenVPN server should work with temp ISP addresses, but you can always use a service that makes your IP 'permanent (with software to update it).

Data on the Cloud is THEIRS, not yours. Plus its infinitely hackable by scummers, gestapo, and corporates. Who can delete your stuff at will.

The beauty of the USB dock: Its portable, and can be turned off at will.
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#3
(Jul 15, 2021, 13:54 pm)waregim Wrote: Thr Cloud is NOT your friend. Even when it is free.

Advise: Get an external USB Dock, a few extra large hard drives - and use them to store/host your data.
You may have difficulties in Win accessing from remote without using RDP (forbidden here), bt it shouldnt be hard setting up a local server (xampp and a software like wordpress or drupal set up for file access).

For remote access an OpenVPN server should work with temp ISP addresses, but you can always use a service that makes your IP 'permanent (with software to update it).

Data on the Cloud is THEIRS, not yours. Plus its infinitely hackable by scummers, gestapo, and corporates. Who can delete your stuff at will.

The beauty of the USB dock: Its portable, and can be turned off at will.

But I'm thinking in using DropBox only for a backup, all the media will still be in my HDDs.

I was also thinking in encrypting the media before uploading to DropBox.

Even so, you don't recommend?

I totally agree with what you are saying.
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#4
Quote:usually they only block when a media is shared, but I don't intend to share

You don't intend to eat bandwidth. Assuming you'll pay your bills and stay within their disk quota they won't care about your content.

DRM lookup is powered by bots, no one checks the content manually unless they have to. Pack your data with RAR5 and you'll be fine.
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#5
Somthing to consider: Places like Comcast are in the sstages of putting monthly traffic limits, like 1.2T/Mo.
And absurd charges for anything over.

Now PROPER backup procedures are 3 locations.
1. Media (I use optical, and SATA external)
2. Device - I use a sister machine
3. Off site - For important stuff I use my website. Basic zip encryption for more sensitive stuff.

With all the nutso garbage going on these days, I would not rely on the cloud for anything. They did drills for 9/11, and we saw what happened. They did drills for the Wuflu, and a few months later... Well they've just done drills for shutting down the net. The proverbial 'kill switch'.

Real protection: Cut the cord off an old Microwave, and use it to store your external hard drives . Insulate it with old fireproof stuff like foamed asbestos. A basic firebox, and Faraday Cage. Put it in a back barn , and your techically 'off site'.

Upload it it anyhwere, and in a real disaster you would be relying on the kindness of strangers to get your data back.

I think we need an in depth discussion on Threat Assessment beyond hardware failures from dead UPS batteries, and the like. Even if we toss in a few tin foil hats.
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#6
(Jul 17, 2021, 03:47 am)maskaw Wrote: You don't intend to eat bandwidth. Assuming you'll pay your bills and stay within their disk quota they won't care about your content.

DRM lookup is powered by bots, no one checks the content manually unless they have to. Pack your data with RAR5 and you'll be fine.

Thanks for the info

(Jul 18, 2021, 20:32 pm)waregim Wrote: Somthing to consider: Places like Comcast are in the sstages of putting monthly traffic limits, like 1.2T/Mo.
And absurd charges for anything over.

Now PROPER backup procedures are 3 locations.
1. Media (I use optical, and SATA external)
2. Device - I use a sister machine
3. Off site - For important stuff I use my website. Basic zip encryption for more sensitive stuff.

With all the nutso garbage going on these days, I would not rely on the cloud for anything. They did drills for 9/11, and we saw what happened. They did drills for the Wuflu, and a few months later... Well they've just done drills for shutting down the net. The proverbial 'kill switch'.

Real protection: Cut the cord off an old Microwave, and use it to store your external hard drives . Insulate it with old fireproof stuff like foamed asbestos. A basic firebox, and Faraday Cage. Put it in a back barn , and your techically 'off site'.

Upload it it anyhwere, and in a real disaster you would be relying on the kindness of strangers to get your data back.

I think we need an in depth discussion on Threat Assessment beyond hardware failures from dead UPS batteries, and the like. Even if we toss in a few tin foil hats.

But I read somewhere that it was important to connect the HDDs once per year, if I put in that box, that wouldn't be very easy to do, is this correct?
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#7
For long term storage I would recommend optical. I've had 99/100 25 year old CDs come up fine.

Hard drives, and anything electronic *should* be refreshed yearly at least. SSDs wont last more than a couple of months.
Backups, ideally are temporary, and should be periodically refreshed to HD to maintain compatibility with updates, and additions.

An old microwave acts as a very rudimentary firebox, as well as reasonable protection from ESD/EMP from lightning, as well other more nefarious sources.
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