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(Sep 15, 2021, 01:03 am)RobertX Wrote: [ -> ]don't tell me that you've always managed to run all the games you have on Virtual machines, and my games are not pre-XPs.

I have been running vanilla versions (with some patches) of: fallout 1 & 2, baldurs gate 1 & 2, planescape: torment - most of them are pre 2000, made for win95/98 w. DX8-9. Baldurs gate 2 is from about the same time as WC3 (2002-3 ish). XP did not exist back then.

(Sep 15, 2021, 01:03 am)RobertX Wrote: [ -> ]any Warcraft III Reign of Chaos/Frozen Throne installation with version 1.26a will tell you what it told me: "too bad, loser!"

I'll give it a try and report back...

(Sep 15, 2021, 01:03 am)RobertX Wrote: [ -> ]Besides, my laptop is gathering dust and I don't think I can take that out with me for Wi-fi. Mine as well turn it into a makeshift gaming rig.

Not a bad idea at all
(Sep 15, 2021, 11:14 am)ill88eagle Wrote: [ -> ]I have been running vanilla versions (with some patches) of: fallout 1 & 2, baldurs gate 1 & 2, planescape: torment - most of them are pre 2000, made for win95/98 w. DX8-9. Baldurs gate 2 is from about the same time as WC3 (2002-3 ish). XP did not exist back then.

What about the ones made for XP and forward?

EDIT: Actually, XP did exist back then; it was released in 2001. I remembered it vividly; everyone was fucking bitching about the activation DRM that they wanted to go to GNU/Linux or just stay with Windows 98/2000. It was an exciting to own a computer.

Anyhow, the point I'm trying to make was that it did exist.
(Sep 15, 2021, 11:21 am)RobertX Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep 15, 2021, 11:14 am)ill88eagle Wrote: [ -> ]I have been running vanilla versions (with some patches) of: fallout 1 & 2, baldurs gate 1 & 2, planescape: torment - most of them are pre 2000, made for win95/98 w. DX8-9. Baldurs gate 2 is from about the same time as WC3 (2002-3 ish). XP did not exist back then.

What about the ones made for XP and forward?

Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas run just fine as does various TES installments like skyrim et al (I use openMW to play morrowind, no wine nor vm needed)

Admittedly, some of the games take some tinkering to get working...

EDIT:

Got this: https://rargb.to/torrent/warcraft-iii-re...70737.html (TPB is down atm)

Ran the installer (.bat file) in my win7 VM (win7 ultimate sp1). Ran the game. No error messages, no pls insert cd, no choppy graphics, smooth as buttered corn...
Downloading as I speak, thanks!

Curious: how did you find stuff like that? Stab in the dark?
(Sep 15, 2021, 12:45 pm)RobertX Wrote: [ -> ]Downloading as I speak, thanks!

Curious: how did you find stuff like that? Stab in the dark?

I went for the one who looked like the most old school rip while still having seeds. This one said "run INSTALL.BAT" - doesn't get more old school than that...
More problems. I can't even install the web installer.

As I said, the system is not recognising the Cryptography whatever (thinks it's off) and cabinet file (referring to the web installer) is "untrustworthy."

I'm no better than I was last night.

You want my specs, here it is:

Code:
System:    Kernel: 5.4.0-84-generic x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 9.3.0 Desktop: MATE 1.24.0
           wm: marco dm: LightDM Distro: Linux Mint 20.2 Uma base: Ubuntu 20.04 focal
Machine:   Type: Desktop System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP Compaq 6005 Pro SFF PC v: N/A
           serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 4 serial: <filter>
           Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 3047h serial: <filter> BIOS: Hewlett-Packard
           v: 786G6 v01.15 date: 08/02/2011
CPU:       Topology: Triple Core model: AMD Phenom II X3 B75 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: K10 rev: 3
           L2 cache: 1536 KiB
           flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4a svm bogomips: 17954
           Speed: 800 MHz min/max: 800/3000 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 800 2: 3000 3: 1800
Graphics:  Device-1: AMD RS880 [Radeon HD 4200] vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: radeon v: kernel
           bus ID: 01:05.0 chip ID: 1002:9710
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: ati,radeon unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa
           compositor: marco resolution: 1680x1050~60Hz
           OpenGL: renderer: AMD RS880 (DRM 2.50.0 / 5.4.0-84-generic LLVM 12.0.0)
           v: 3.3 Mesa 21.0.3 compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes
Audio:     Device-1: AMD SBx00 Azalia vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
           bus ID: 00:14.2 chip ID: 1002:4383
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.4.0-84-generic
Network:   Device-1: Broadcom and subsidiaries NetXtreme BCM5761 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe
           vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: tg3 v: 3.137 port: 1100 bus ID: 3f:00.0
           chip ID: 14e4:1681
           IF: enp63s0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 232.89 GiB used: 76.45 GiB (32.8%)
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Seagate model: ST250DM000-1BD141 size: 232.89 GiB
           speed: 3.0 Gb/s serial: <filter>
Partition: ID-1: / size: 227.74 GiB used: 76.45 GiB (33.6%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda5
USB:       Hub: 1-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 6 rev: 2.0 chip ID: 1d6b:0002
           Device-1: 1-6:3 info: Philips & Lite-ON Digital Solutions Mass Storage Device
           type: Mass Storage driver: usb-storage rev: 2.0 chip ID: 1c6b:a223
           Hub: 2-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 6 rev: 2.0 chip ID: 1d6b:0002
           Hub: 3-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 3 rev: 1.1 chip ID: 1d6b:0001
           Hub: 4-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 3 rev: 1.1 chip ID: 1d6b:0001
           Device-2: 4-2:2 info: SiGma Micro Keyboard TRACER Gamma Ivory type: Keyboard,HID
           driver: hid-generic,usbhid rev: 1.1 chip ID: 1c4f:0002
           Hub: 5-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 3 rev: 1.1 chip ID: 1d6b:0001
           Hub: 6-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 3 rev: 1.1 chip ID: 1d6b:0001
           Device-3: 6-1:2 info: Xenta 2.4G Wireless Optical Mouse type: Mouse,Keyboard
           driver: hid-generic,usbhid rev: 1.1 chip ID: 1d57:130f
           Hub: 7-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 2 rev: 1.1 chip ID: 1d6b:0001
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 46.0 C mobo: N/A
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/additional-repositories.list
           1: deb https: //dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu/ focal main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/cubic-wizard-release-focal.list
           1: deb http: //ppa.launchpad.net/cubic-wizard/release/ubuntu focal main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/freecad-maintainers-freecad-stable-focal.list
           1: deb http: //ppa.launchpad.net/freecad-maintainers/freecad-stable/ubuntu focal main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/gambas-team-gambas3-focal.list
           1: deb http: //ppa.launchpad.net/gambas-team/gambas3/ubuntu focal main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/libreoffice-ppa-focal.list
           1: deb http: //ppa.launchpad.net/libreoffice/ppa/ubuntu focal main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/official-package-repositories.list
           1: deb https: //muug.ca/mirror/linuxmint/packages uma main upstream import backport
           2: deb http: //archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal main restricted universe multiverse
           3: deb http: //archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-updates main restricted universe multiverse
           4: deb http: //archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-backports main restricted universe multiverse
           5: deb http: //security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ focal-security main restricted universe multiverse
           6: deb http: //archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ focal partner
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ubuntuhandbook1-gimp-focal.list
           1: deb http: //ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntuhandbook1/gimp/ubuntu focal main
Info:      Processes: 194 Uptime: 36m Memory: 3.35 GiB used: 1.83 GiB (54.7%) Init: systemd v: 245
           runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 9.3.0 alt: 8/9 Client: Unknown python3.8 client
           inxi: 3.0.38
The fabulous INSTALL.BAT in the torrent seems to install the DX files the game needs so try not to worry yourself about that.
A few questions I want to pose:

1. Do you use the Guest Additions ISO to install drivers?
2. Can VirtualBox detect real drivers (like not the ones installed by the Guest Additions ISO)? As you can see in the specs I gave you, I have a Radeon HD 4200 on the computer. I would for VirtualBox to dismiss that.

EDIT: Oops, I left out that I am planning to install a latest driver of OpenGL.

Well, the results coming out of your help is that Warcraft gets stuck at the splash screen.

I'll keep testing though.
I use guest additions without giving a fuck what goes on on the driver level. It just werks™
As for OpenGL I am on OpenGL v. 4.6 / Mesa 21.0.3
Well, I believe I hit a stumbling block; I'm all out of ideas. What about you?

I guess I'll have to settle with the slowing down of Warcraft III and live with it.

Maybe a few months down the line, I might be able to find something that can work.

Thanks to all who offered... in other words, thanks to ill88eagle.

Not giving up, just taking a break.

Anyone who wants to help are welcome, I'm presently declare this problem to be in abeyance.

EDIT: I do have one question, do I have the ability to update OpenGL drivers onto virtual machines?
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