privacy when torrenting?
#11
I forgot to ask, but why is PeerBlock no a good idea to use?
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#12
(Feb 01, 2014, 11:37 am)jigsaw52 Wrote: I forgot to ask, but why is PeerBlock no a good idea to use?
http://lifehacker.com/466094254#comments see comments. I do not know if what they say re peerblock is true or not

Different opinions http://filesharingtalk.com/archive/index...76978.html

Would the free cyberghost work?
http://cyberghostvpn.com/en/product/purchase.html

I tried cyberghost free and it changes the ip for the torrent. I can see my ip is changed with an add on from firefox .The same changed ip is visible in the torrent client and it is given as browser ip in checkmytorrentip.com,

@ NIK If you have any comment or info it would be appreciated
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#13
BTGUARD offers 2 services:
1) BitTorrent Proxy @ $6.95 US/month
2) VPN @ $9.95 US/month

If one is only concerned with keeping his torrenting private, is the less expensive service acceptable?

Thanks
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#14
(Feb 01, 2014, 07:35 am)jigsaw52 Wrote: At the end of 2011, (or I think it was the beginning of 2012) I received a message from Roadrunner (I think that was the name of it) about copyright infringement. It said if it were to be done again, they have the right to sue or something like that. I never got the message again. I'm not sure why I got it.

Because your IP was spotted downloading content somebody claimed was theirs. They send a letter to your ISP. Your ISP contacted you.


(Feb 01, 2014, 07:35 am)jigsaw52 Wrote: By the way, I use uTorrent version 3.2.2. I hear it should be safe enough.

It doesn't matter what client you use. No one offers any more security than another.


(Feb 01, 2014, 10:09 am)Empirical Wrote: Are there any free vans? Or seed boxes?

There are free VPNs, but I wouldn't trust them. There are no free seedbeds.


(Feb 01, 2014, 10:09 am)Empirical Wrote: Can you explain how to configure the firewall to hide the ip if the vpn fails in an analogy?

That depends on the firewall you are using.

The Vuze client has a nice feature that can bind the client to the VPN interface removing the need to configure firewall rules.


(Feb 01, 2014, 10:09 am)Empirical Wrote: Why would you be disconnected from the VPN, ?

Why does your phone mysteriously disconnect your calls?


(Feb 01, 2014, 10:09 am)Empirical Wrote: What effect does forcing encryption on qbt have?

It is a legacy feature introduced as a way to prevent ISP throttling. It is largely ineffective today. It is generally not a good idea to force encryption as all it will do is prevent you from connecting to peers that don't support it.


(Feb 01, 2014, 10:09 am)Empirical Wrote: Would TOR browser keep ip hidden?

Don't use TOR for bittorrent. That's not what it is for.



(Feb 01, 2014, 11:37 am)jigsaw52 Wrote: I forgot to ask, but why is PeerBlock no a good idea to use?

Because all it does is prevent you from connecting to other peers. So you'll be likely to spend more time in the swarm thereby increasing your chances of exposure.
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#15
Are there any free vpns?Or seedboxes?

Yes, but none that I would recommend and none that I believe anyone would be happy with. Bandwidth costs and giving it away is unsustainable. There is always a catch. Ads, appallingly slow speeds, excessive and increasing "random" disconnections all leading to...premium options (which you obviously have to pay for). You're better off picking a reputable provider.

Why would you be disconnected from the VPN, ?

VPN's and websites are merely applications running on a computer somewhere on the Internet. Sometimes the computers crash (or are turned off) and somethimes the network connections between them are broken (maybe a drainlayer cuts through a cable somewhere). Have you even been temporarily unable to connect to a given website? Same thing with a VPN.

Can you explain how to configure the firewall to hide the ip if the vpn fails in an analogy?

I can't think of an analogy right now but I can direct you to this http://torrentfreak.com/how-to-make-vpns...re-120419/ and this https://www.bestvpn.com/blog/5142/5-ways...ion-fails/ which will help you set it up.

If you change your IP in routerbbefore each torrent then each time a book is collected the guy will have a different licence plate. Is it more likeley they will not bother with a once off and look for repeat offenders?

They don't look for repeat offenders. They're in the business of rapid turnaround extortion. Send out threatening letters and pocket any money people are gullible enough to cough up. The companies sending out the letters don't want to go to court any more than you do. Because a) it costs a lot of time, money and manpower and b) they might lose, which would establish a bad (from their point of view) precedent. Google around--the majority of file sharing lawsuits end very badly for the trolls. That's why the "settlement" amounts or "fines" they ask you to pay are in the hundreds/low thousands--they don't want you to think they're worth while trying to defend. They just want a cheque in the post and a horror story circulating around your friends and relatives.

What effect does forcing encryption on qbt have?

It will slow your downloads. It's an obsolete feature. About 6-7 years ago, ISP's started to deliberately slow down torrent traffic. "protocol encryption" was invented to disguise the torrent traffic so that it looked like other traffic and so could not be throtted. "deep packet inspection" was then invented to see through the encryption so that it could be throttled again. Then ISP's abandoned throttling and switched to charging people excess charges for "excessive downloading". Forcing it means that your client will only connect to other clients which are also enabling/forcing it. Since most people don't bother, because it's no longer necessary and no longer works anyway, that will simply cut you off from the majority of peers.

Would TOR browser keep ip hidden?

Yes. But, like a proxy, it will keep your IP hidden from TPB (who don't give a fuck). It won't hide your filesharing from anyone.

I forgot to ask, but why is PeerBlock no a good idea to use?

It's based on the assumption that the people who run PeerBlock know the IP addresses being used by all the copyright trolls in the world at all times. They don't. There are many addresses they don't know which aren't in the blocklists, and many of the entries in the blocklists are either outdated or just plain wrong. Consequently, not only do they not protect you they block you from legitimate uploaders. That not only slows you down but also extends the amount of time you're downloading for ie. the amount of time you're vulnerable to detection. And all the time it's inconveniencing you and increasing your risk it is providigin a false sense of security--encouraging you to forgo measures which might really help and to indulge in riskier behaviour.
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#16
(Feb 02, 2014, 02:26 am)NIK Wrote: Are there any free vpns?Or seedboxes?

Yes, but none that I would recommend and none that I believe anyone would be happy with. Bandwidth costs and giving it away is unsustainable. There is always a catch. Ads, appallingly slow speeds, excessive and increasing "random" disconnections all leading to...premium options (which you obviously have to pay for). You're better off picking a reputable provider.

Why would you be disconnected from the VPN, ?

VPN's and websites are merely applications running on a computer somewhere on the Internet. Sometimes the computers crash (or are turned off) and somethimes the network connections between them are broken (maybe a drainlayer cuts through a cable somewhere). Have you even been temporarily unable to connect to a given website? Same thing with a VPN.

Can you explain how to configure the firewall to hide the ip if the vpn fails in an analogy?

I can't think of an analogy right now but I can direct you to this http://torrentfreak.com/how-to-make-vpns...re-120419/ and this https://www.bestvpn.com/blog/5142/5-ways...ion-fails/ which will help you set it up.

If you change your IP in routerbbefore each torrent then each time a book is collected the guy will have a different licence plate. Is it more likeley they will not bother with a once off and look for repeat offenders?

They don't look for repeat offenders. They're in the business of rapid turnaround extortion. Send out threatening letters and pocket any money people are gullible enough to cough up. The companies sending out the letters don't want to go to court any more than you do. Because a) it costs a lot of time, money and manpower and b) they might lose, which would establish a bad (from their point of view) precedent. Google around--the majority of file sharing lawsuits end very badly for the trolls. That's why the "settlement" amounts or "fines" they ask you to pay are in the hundreds/low thousands--they don't want you to think they're worth while trying to defend. They just want a cheque in the post and a horror story circulating around your friends and relatives.

What effect does forcing encryption on qbt have?

It will slow your downloads. It's an obsolete feature. About 6-7 years ago, ISP's started to deliberately slow down torrent traffic. "protocol encryption" was invented to disguise the torrent traffic so that it looked like other traffic and so could not be throtted. "deep packet inspection" was then invented to see through the encryption so that it could be throttled again. Then ISP's abandoned throttling and switched to charging people excess charges for "excessive downloading". Forcing it means that your client will only connect to other clients which are also enabling/forcing it. Since most people don't bother, because it's no longer necessary and no longer works anyway, that will simply cut you off from the majority of peers.

Would TOR browser keep ip hidden?

Yes. But, like a proxy, it will keep your IP hidden from TPB (who don't give a fuck). It won't hide your filesharing from anyone.

I forgot to ask, but why is PeerBlock no a good idea to use?

It's based on the assumption that the people who run PeerBlock know the IP addresses being used by all the copyright trolls in the world at all times. They don't. There are many addresses they don't know which aren't in the blocklists, and many of the entries in the blocklists are either outdated or just plain wrong. Consequently, not only do they not protect you they block you from legitimate uploaders. That not only slows you down but also extends the amount of time you're downloading for ie. the amount of time you're vulnerable to detection. And all the time it's inconveniencing you and increasing your risk it is providigin a false sense of security--encouraging you to forgo measures which might really help and to indulge in riskier behaviour.
NIK, Is this good enough
I tried cyberghost free and it changes the ip for the torrent. I can see my ip is changed with an add on from firefox .The same changed ip is visible in the torrent client and it is given as browser ip in checkmytorrentip.com,

(Feb 02, 2014, 08:02 am)Empirical Wrote:
(Feb 02, 2014, 02:26 am)NIK Wrote: Are there any free vpns?Or seedboxes?

Yes, but none that I would recommend and none that I believe anyone would be happy with. Bandwidth costs and giving it away is unsustainable. There is always a catch. Ads, appallingly slow speeds, excessive and increasing "random" disconnections all leading to...premium options (which you obviously have to pay for). You're better off picking a reputable provider.

Why would you be disconnected from the VPN, ?

VPN's and websites are merely applications running on a computer somewhere on the Internet. Sometimes the computers crash (or are turned off) and somethimes the network connections between them are broken (maybe a drainlayer cuts through a cable somewhere). Have you even been temporarily unable to connect to a given website? Same thing with a VPN.

Can you explain how to configure the firewall to hide the ip if the vpn fails in an analogy?

I can't think of an analogy right now but I can direct you to this http://torrentfreak.com/how-to-make-vpns...re-120419/ and this https://www.bestvpn.com/blog/5142/5-ways...ion-fails/ which will help you set it up.

If you change your IP in routerbbefore each torrent then each time a book is collected the guy will have a different licence plate. Is it more likeley they will not bother with a once off and look for repeat offenders?

They don't look for repeat offenders. They're in the business of rapid turnaround extortion. Send out threatening letters and pocket any money people are gullible enough to cough up. The companies sending out the letters don't want to go to court any more than you do. Because a) it costs a lot of time, money and manpower and b) they might lose, which would establish a bad (from their point of view) precedent. Google around--the majority of file sharing lawsuits end very badly for the trolls. That's why the "settlement" amounts or "fines" they ask you to pay are in the hundreds/low thousands--they don't want you to think they're worth while trying to defend. They just want a cheque in the post and a horror story circulating around your friends and relatives.

What effect does forcing encryption on qbt have?

It will slow your downloads. It's an obsolete feature. About 6-7 years ago, ISP's started to deliberately slow down torrent traffic. "protocol encryption" was invented to disguise the torrent traffic so that it looked like other traffic and so could not be throtted. "deep packet inspection" was then invented to see through the encryption so that it could be throttled again. Then ISP's abandoned throttling and switched to charging people excess charges for "excessive downloading". Forcing it means that your client will only connect to other clients which are also enabling/forcing it. Since most people don't bother, because it's no longer necessary and no longer works anyway, that will simply cut you off from the majority of peers.

Would TOR browser keep ip hidden?

Yes. But, like a proxy, it will keep your IP hidden from TPB (who don't give a fuck). It won't hide your filesharing from anyone.

I forgot to ask, but why is PeerBlock no a good idea to use?

It's based on the assumption that the people who run PeerBlock know the IP addresses being used by all the copyright trolls in the world at all times. They don't. There are many addresses they don't know which aren't in the blocklists, and many of the entries in the blocklists are either outdated or just plain wrong. Consequently, not only do they not protect you they block you from legitimate uploaders. That not only slows you down but also extends the amount of time you're downloading for ie. the amount of time you're vulnerable to detection. And all the time it's inconveniencing you and increasing your risk it is providigin a false sense of security--encouraging you to forgo measures which might really help and to indulge in riskier behaviour.
NIK, Is this good enough
I tried cyberghost free and it changes the ip for the torrent. I can see my ip is changed with an add on from firefox .The same changed ip is visible in the torrent client and it is given as browser ip in checkmytorrentip.com,
what about
http://www.thegreenbow.com/vpn/vpn.html
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#17
So, what does "protocol encryption" mean on uTorrent? I had seen on a topic on yahoo that it hides your IP address when it's downloading. If it's enabled, it will do it.
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#18
(Feb 02, 2014, 08:02 am)Empirical Wrote: NIK, Is this good enough

"Good enough" is a subjective judgement which only you can make for yourself. There are three things you should consider:
1. Your level of risk tolerance. Personally, I don't use a VPN at all, the risks of being caught are so low that I don't lose sleep over downloading naked (the one concession I make is not using trackers or Peer Exchange--I rely solely on DHT to find peers)
2. The reputation of the provider--are they going to give you up. Cyberghost don't have a bad rep.
3. The performance you get and whether that's acceptable to you. According to https://www.bestvpn.com/blog/3517/cyberghost-review/ you will get a maximum of 1 Mb/s (ie. 128 kB/s) and you will be disconnected after 6 hours (so overnight downloading will be cut short). Personally, I would find that constricting.

(Feb 02, 2014, 22:52 pm)jigsaw52 Wrote: So, what does "protocol encryption" mean on uTorrent? I had seen on a topic on yahoo that it hides your IP address when it's downloading. If it's enabled, it will do it.

See my reply above on "forcing encryption on qbt" - it's the same thing. tl;dr = enable but don't force encryption and don't require incoming connections to be encrypted.
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#19
(Feb 03, 2014, 01:11 am)NIK Wrote:
(Feb 02, 2014, 08:02 am)Empirical Wrote: NIK, Is this good enough

"Good enough" is a subjective judgement which only you can make for yourself. There are three things you should consider:
1. Your level of risk tolerance. Personally, I don't use a VPN at all, the risks of being caught are so low that I don't lose sleep over downloading naked (the one concession I make is not using trackers or Peer Exchange--I rely solely on DHT to find peers)
2. The reputation of the provider--are they going to give you up. Cyberghost don't have a bad rep.
3. The performance you get and whether that's acceptable to you. According to https://www.bestvpn.com/blog/3517/cyberghost-review/ you will get a maximum of 1 Mb/s (ie. 128 kB/s) and you will be disconnected after 6 hours (so overnight downloading will be cut short). Personally, I would find that constricting.

(Feb 02, 2014, 22:52 pm)jigsaw52 Wrote: So, what does "protocol encryption" mean on uTorrent? I had seen on a topic on yahoo that it hides your IP address when it's downloading. If it's enabled, it will do it.

See my reply above on "forcing encryption on qbt" - it's the same thing. tl;dr = enable but don't force encryption and don't require incoming connections to be encrypted.

Ah sorry I didn't see your previous post. When I first started downloading torrents, I didn't protect myself at the time. I was new to it and it was my mistake which I know better now. A few friends of mine are downloading torrents without using VPNs as well, but I would want to be on the safe side.
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#20
Hey, new to the forum but been using the piratebay for around 5-6 years. Ive found that since all the local isp's have blocked the site that Tor Browser is definitely the most secure way of getting online. Its amazing, i was so releaved to find out about it when i did Angel theres a video i seen on youtube of how to do it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BobJapSVDdU
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