Torrents databases are a centralized thingy

[connor17]

There was a short debate some time ago about how thepiratebay (due to its success) was blocking the development of a "new torrent tech", and how the best thing to happen was piratebay to cease existing, so that new tech could emerge.

The debate was short because no one showed any clue about how that new tech should work, other than some vague notions about being "impossible to shut down".

The problem was focused in the centralized nature of torrent sites. If the site is shutted down, like kickasstorrents was, everything is lost. People need to go to another site and start all over again, and what if there're no sites left? Scary.

So what about a decentralized system? That would be awesome, if a node stops working, it doesn't matter, 'cos it's multinodal, brilliant.

But the problem is that torrent systems are necessarily centralized, because their center consists on the hierarchical structure of people that make it work: admins and mods. These people are the ones who do the job: they delete the bad torrents. Without mods deleting malware and fakes, a torrent site is worthless.
In a decentralized system there would not be mods, only peers, and peers can not moderate themselves, because people uploading malware are peers too, it's that simple. "Peers flagging bad torrents" is just an idiotic idea. It would be abused to the point of making the system useless in no time.

So that "new tech" is just an entelechy.

And blockchain doesn't solve the problem, it has nothing to do with it. The problem is what torrent are added to the database, not the nature of the database itself. And only mods can do that selection.

[xHOBBiTx]

I would suggest something like certified clones, or copiers, such as a family sites works as a tree which replicates the DB and if one of these sites down, we have a guide (sites list) which inform users about the online sites.


so if you are a member of TPB1 you can also login with the same account on TPB2 and keep uploading and so on

[Sr_Soil]

I’m a bit left of center at the moment but TPB was good, then KAT took over, KAT taken down by itunes account, then ET took over, ET shut down somewhat voluntarily and then every half-wit returned to TPB. TPB now run by who knows who with an interest in monetisation could really give a shit about “sharing”. Hence the current environment. At this point, if this shit shuts down I really could not predict what would happen. It would likely get worse.

[contrail]

I would suggest clones that integrate with each other, maybe like the TheOpenBay that was created awhile back. Still with TPB dumps we are a little further away from losing everything.

[Sid]

BitTorrent, in it's current state, can never be improved upon and it can never be bettered.

Bram Cohen is the most brilliant inventor there has ever been or will ever be.

Nothing new will ever be invented; nothing new can ever be invented.

We have reached the end of history.

Because...troll says so.

* Sid yawns

[dueda]

Seeing those seven pages of "such a time ago discussion", I agree with Sunde's position as Sid expanded on the subject; they're much like mine.

Let's not dream TPB will be here the next 50 years. We can't say what's gonna happen tomorrow, but we can anticipate and make it happen.

If I find any system that is good for me, ok. My bet is on open crowd systems, so the suits will have to close the entire Internet to stop it if they want.
But while centralized ones work for me, the better. Buy time for the innovations to mature.

[connor17]

BitTorrent, in it's current state, can never be improved upon and it can never be bettered.

Bram Cohen is the most brilliant inventor there has ever been or will ever be.

Nothing new will ever be invented; nothing new can ever be invented.

We have reached the end of history.

Because...troll says so.

* Sid yawns

Other than insulting, and implying that I said things I didn't say, your post is just trolling. But this is your site, so go for it.