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Dec 12, 2018, 13:31 pm
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Dictator Trump's former personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, was just sentenced to three years in prison. The crimes he pleaded guilty to include lying to congress about the Trump Tower Moscow deal and campaign finance violations for the Stormy Daniels payment.
Every time something like this happens I think about what Sean Hannity would say if it was Obama whose personal lawyer was guilty of eight+ felonies. My guess is he would be saying the opposite of what he's saying right now because it's his guy who is the criminal.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/12/trumps-e...years.html
Quote:Michael Cohen, the former personal lawyer and fixer for President Donald Trump, was ordered imprisoned Wednesday for three years for a range of crimes, including ones which helped cover up Trump's "dirty deeds" and put the president in legal peril.
"I take full responsibility for each act that I pled guilty to — the personal ones to me and those involving the president of the United States of America," Cohen said in federal court in Manhattan before he was sentenced.
"Blind loyalty" to Trump "led me to take a path of darkness instead of light," Cohen told the judge.
And that loyalty, Cohen said, led to his effort to cover up president's 'dirty deeds."
Cohen is due to surrender to prison on March 6. In addition to his time in prison, at a location to be determined, Cohen must pay a $50,000 fine for lying to Congress about a proposed real estate deal in Russia by the Trump Organization.
Judge William Pauley, before imposing sentence, said, "Mr. Cohen pled guilt to a veritable smorgasbord of fraudulent conduct."
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Lying to Congress is worth $500,000 minimum, and in his position $5,000,000, but in the matters of presidential election etc I'd hammer him $50 million.
Then we'd see how Trump backs his "blind" loyalty.
PS: Oh no, here comes the Trump Stalker again, back from under the hammer.
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Cohen will probably get out of jail in 18 months on good behavior.
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(Dec 12, 2018, 22:12 pm)Executive Wrote: Cohen will probably get out of jail in 18 months on good behavior.
Yes and he will serve it at some country club minimum security prison. But he's not the point.
He's a means to an end. The real fish is Trump. This is how you build cases in the real world, piece by piece.
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Nobody did cheetos about Reagan, Bush, and others; even Nixxon just retired. In the end, the people pay the bill and the sockers bail.
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Dec 13, 2018, 22:42 pm
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(Dec 12, 2018, 22:17 pm)politux Wrote: (Dec 12, 2018, 22:12 pm)Executive Wrote: Cohen will probably get out of jail in 18 months on good behavior.
Yes and he will serve it at some country club minimum security prison. But he's not the point.
He's a means to an end. The real fish is Trump. This is how you build cases in the real world, piece by piece.
I'm well aware of that! Cohen's testimony about Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal being paid hush money won't bring down Trump though.
It's his Russian connections, money laundering, and obstruction of justice that will, and Michael Cohen was at the very least advising his client on Russia for 12 years.
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Cohen's a fool. He should have kept his mouth shut and Trump would have pardoned him.
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(Dec 13, 2018, 22:53 pm)neanderthal Wrote: Cohen's a fool. He should have kept his mouth shut and Trump would have pardoned him.
If Cohen did that and pleaded The Fifth, he would have gotten far more jail time than he did! The Southern District of New York had everything they needed even without his testimony, so I believe he couldn't have gotten a better deal under the circumstances.
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Umm . . . you have made a mistake in your calculation:
Formula: 1 pardon = 0 jail
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Dec 14, 2018, 06:14 am
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(Dec 14, 2018, 02:28 am)neanderthal Wrote: Umm . . . you have made a mistake in your calculation:
Formula: 1 pardon = 0 jail
Umm the president has power to pardon federal crimes, not state crimes. Since Michael Cohen broke the law in New York City, the state prosecutors could put him in jail for 10+ years easy and Trump wouldn't be able to do shit about it. Better to cooperate and do 1.5 years in a country club jail than roll the dice and end up with 10 to 15 years.
Even better would be not to work for a criminal like Trump in the first place and not break the law. 
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