The Spirit Realm - The Physical Realm

[waregim]

Jeez, kid, I hate to break this to ya. And I know its going to be awful depressing.... but....

If you are not a space alien, then we definitely share the same planet together.

If by chance you are, then ET, it would be highly advisable for you to phone home. ASAP.
The chump, and las migras, are coming for you.

Now, its OK to feel *alienated* in todays world. That is fully intended by the Masters of the Universe (see Chomsky).
Divide et impera -Divide and Conquer 2.0 - when they can seperate you from your world.

If you are going to disagree, then make a solid point for chrissakes.

Ad hominems dont cut the mustard here. Or anywhere.

And being vague and evasive kinda contradicts the entire point of posting: To communicate.

[Fant0men]

If one is truly spiritually enlightened, it shows in one's behavior. Look at the Dalai Lama or Jiddu Krishnamurti. Those are two of the very few spiritual "gurus" I trust, since most others are frauds. You can see that they're both very kind and patient with their audience / students. They don't suffer from narcissism or talk down to others, but they truly care and want everyone to awaken. This is because they realize we're all in this together, and the choices we make, and the consequences that result, all have to be experienced and suffered through by the universal consciousness / singularity that envelops and permeates everything in existence. Therefore, the goal from a higher spiritual level is to lift up everyone's consciousness to the highest level, so that everyone can be happy and no suffering has to be experienced by any conscious / sentient being. Truly enlightened individuals are nothing like QiikSand. I think it's quite obvious that QiikSand is full of fear and hate, because of him being utterly and completely identified with his ego.

Like waregim said, many people feel alienated in this world and like they don't belong. Perhaps no one really belongs here, and this world really was created through an experiment by some spirit beings living in the universal consciousness, as is implied by Gnosticism. I believe that we as individuals all possess the spark of consciousness, which is our reminder of where we come from (universal consciousness). Though, that spark lays dormant in most people. Most people live on autopilot, and their every action is actually just a reaction based on the past (experience).

If you live in that way, then you're not living in real-time (in the "now"). You're living in the past and won't be able to use your free will, as free will only exists if one is conscious and fully aware in the moment (no matter how it looks). Ego-based (re)actions will always be based on the past. The past and the future is the domain of the ego, as time itself is an illusion from a higher perspective. Hence, by operating exclusively through that material lens, one is as good as spiritually "dead", and fully identified with the physical self / ego.

If you choose to spend your life, viewing everything through the lens of worldly concepts that you have gotten from other people, then you won't awaken but you will stay stuck in the cycle. To awaken means to drop everything you think you know, and I really mean everything, not to install some additional useless program / concept / belief. The more layers you add to yourself, the harder it will be to eventually break through all that crap, and perceive true reality.

QiikSand's choice of words shows that he's deeply religious (and deluded), along with all the prejudices, biases and bigotry that entails. This is the kind of thinking we need to move beyond, as a species, for there to be any kind of global spiritual awakening in the future. As things look right now, concerning the level of consciousness of the masses, the situation is quite bleak and we're nowhere near an awakening. The masses simply aren't doing the inner work that's necessary for such an awakening. They're not meditating, they're constantly engaged in selfish behavior, and they're actively avoiding to peer within.

The fall, as described in the Bible, is probably the fall from a very high vibration (true reality / oneness), down to a very low vibration (physical matter), where there seems to be separation. The "rebellion against god" was to see what would happen if we were to try separating ourselves from "it", and create "our own world". Of course, we were always free to do whatever we wanted, as our free will is inherent in the universal consciousness that spawned us in the first place.

Matter is the result of spirit, coming from universal consciousness, traveling outside of the known (spiritual) existence out into the void (that exists outside the singularity), where there was nothing at all. Matter is the chemical reaction between spirit and the void. That spiritual light has been hijacked, converted and perverted into this material existence we find ourselves in, and the only way to keep everyone trapped in the cycle is by tricking them into identifying more and more deeply with the ego.

I believe the void is also the home of archons / demons / djinn. Most of them seem to be jealous of humans, as we have the spark of consciousness (and they don't), and hence we have a way of returning home one day (to universal consciousness), but they don't. This is why we have things like demonic possession, poltergeist activity etc. Demons exist in a vibrational plane just below us humans, and they're trying to hijack our evolution and possess our bodies in order to escape from whatever hell realm they currently exist in.

If you watch a lot of horror movies, then you'll know possession always begins when the victim is spiritually weak, sad, worried or angry in some way. Because that's the vibration of the demons, and they use the human ego to generate these feelings and attitudes in order to make us more compatible with them, and through that influence our thoughts and in turn our actions. They feed on our negative emotions, and that's how they extract the spiritual energy that's actually meant for us, coming from universal consciousness through the spark within (and finally to our physical body and self). Demonic beings have found a way to turn humanity into a power grid that allows the demons to extract that energy, as they have no energy of their own. Staying positive and in a state of love, no matter the physical circumstances, is the only defense against demonic influences. Demons want us to remain in a state of fear, as that's the only way to keep this circus going. If everyone chose to be in a state of love, it would instantly dissolve the illusory material existence and we would wake up from this nightmarish dream of a world that never truly existed at all. We would return "home", leaving the demons to their ultimate fate.

Responding to trolls like QiikSand on his level only serves to lower our own vibration. As Morpheus says in the Matrix, the people who aren't yet unplugged are a part of the system and hence our enemies. That's not a call for discrimination, animosity or violence against them, but a warning that they are quite hopeless, and there's no way to make them snap out of whatever lens of insanity they're currently viewing life through. Maybe having to suffer through a thousand more turns of the "wheel of reincarnation" will teach those souls to get pragmatic about their spiritual evolution, but until then it's best to just stay away and let them be.

Trying to talk sense into QiikSand is quite pointless, as his goal is not to reach understanding but to generate conflict, because he's conflicted within himself due to all the demonic influence that's working through his ego.

I believe the uppermost world elite are possessed by demons, and do various secret rituals and channelings to get in contact with them and get useful knowledge that will help them keep and expand their power over the rest of humanity. They probably believe they're communing with Satan / Lucifer or some alien / other-worldly / other-dimensional consciousness. They all want us plebs to believe that there's no such thing as the spiritual world, or demons, as that's how they can operate in the dark, by subliminally influencing us to let ourselves be run by the ego, and turn on each other. That's how division is created in our society, keeping everyone busy fighting each other, instead of fighting the actual evil that is our present world order / political / cultural / religious system.

Perhaps the experiment was to see what would happen if we were to try separating ourselves from our source (universal consciousness). That's why the demonically possessed clowns who are running the show exist. Their job is to be evil, as to awaken us to good, and perhaps our job is lashing back at the elite, shaming them in the process and teaching them that their behavior is detrimental to everyone's spiritual evolution (incl. their own). There are those beings who have used their free will to abandon their true self and live as energy vampires and leeches on the lifeforce of unsuspecting others (who still have the spark burning within).

Their behavior is identical to that of narcissists, sociopaths and psychopaths. This is why I believe this to be a sign of demonic possession. Those diagnoses imply a complete lack of empathy, manipulative behavior, and a willingness to step on others to get ahead in life. Anyone who has dealt with a narcissist in real life, and then done the research on narcissism, knows that they all follow the same playbook. The manipulation tactics are the same in all narcissistic individuals. If you've understood this, it's very easy to recognize them, and you'll be wise enough to not let them into your life. Just go the other way.

This world, and the universal narcissist that is the ego, is what happens when we try separating ourselves from our source. Of course, any actual separation from source is impossible, as all is one. All we can do is to believe and pretend ourselves into physical existence, but it's a choice we made from a higher spiritual plane and then forgot as our memory is wiped in-between lives. As time went on, many got stuck in the cycle of reincarnation and had their memory wiped so many times, that they completely identify with their physical self, along with all the worldly beliefs and concepts that have been created by the human ego throughout the eons. You can never find true insight through thoughts, as they all come from the ego, and they're very easily influenced by demons. Only by awakening intuition, which is emotion-based intelligence (coming from the highest spiritual plane / the spark within), and letting that intuition / awareness rule the ego, is there any hope at all of becoming truly spiritually enlightened.

The goal isn't to remove the ego, as that can't be done without dying, but the goal is to master the ego through the burning spark within, using intuition and awareness.

We are supposed to use the neocortex (the newest and most advanced part of the brain) to dominate the lower parts of our brain. But, in QiikSand's case, he has let the lower (and older) reptilian part of his brain (the brain stem) hijack all the higher functions, thereby operating at a low intelligence that's not susceptible to rationality. The ego has no creativity, intelligence or awareness. People who are utterly ruled by it can't see, hear or understand anything.

It's useless explaining anything to QiikSand, as he simply will not hear any of it. I wrote this post for everyone else. I hope it was helpful.

[QiikSand]

Jeez, kid, I hate to break this to ya. And I know its going to be awful depressing.... but....

If you are not a space alien, then we definitely share the same planet together.

If by chance you are, then ET, it would be highly advisable for you to phone home. ASAP.
The chump, and las migras, are coming for you.

Now, its OK to feel *alienated* in todays world. That is fully intended by the Masters of the Universe (see Chomsky).
Divide et impera -Divide and Conquer 2.0 - when they can seperate you from your world.

If you are going to disagree, then make a solid point for chrissakes.

Ad hominems dont cut the mustard here. Or anywhere.

And being vague and evasive kinda contradicts the entire point of posting: To communicate.

Wisdom cannot communicate with stupidity.

---

If one is truly spiritually enlightened, it shows in one's behavior. Look at the Dalai Lama or Jiddu Krishnamurti. Those are two of the very few spiritual "gurus" I trust, since most others are frauds. You can see that they're both very kind and patient with their audience / students. They don't suffer from narcissism or talk down to others, but they truly care and want everyone to awaken. This is because they realize we're all in this together, and the choices we make, and the consequences that result, all have to be experienced and suffered through by the universal consciousness / singularity that envelops and permeates everything in existence. Therefore, the goal from a higher spiritual level is to lift up everyone's consciousness to the highest level, so that everyone can be happy and no suffering has to be experienced by any conscious / sentient being. Truly enlightened individuals are nothing like QiikSand. I think it's quite obvious that QiikSand is full of fear and hate, because of him being utterly and completely identified with his ego.

Like waregim said, many people feel alienated in this world and like they don't belong. Perhaps no one really belongs here, and this world really was created through an experiment by some spirit beings living in the universal consciousness, as is implied by Gnosticism. I believe that we as individuals all possess the spark of consciousness, which is our reminder of where we come from (universal consciousness). Though, that spark lays dormant in most people. Most people live on autopilot, and their every action is actually just a reaction based on the past (experience).

If you live in that way, then you're not living in real-time (in the "now"). You're living in the past and won't be able to use your free will, as free will only exists if one is conscious and fully aware in the moment (no matter how it looks). Ego-based (re)actions will always be based on the past. The past and the future is the domain of the ego, as time itself is an illusion from a higher perspective. Hence, by operating exclusively through that material lens, one is as good as spiritually "dead", and fully identified with the physical self / ego.

If you choose to spend your life, viewing everything through the lens of worldly concepts that you have gotten from other people, then you won't awaken but you will stay stuck in the cycle. To awaken means to drop everything you think you know, and I really mean everything, not to install some additional useless program / concept / belief. The more layers you add to yourself, the harder it will be to eventually break through all that crap, and perceive true reality.

QiikSand's choice of words shows that he's deeply religious (and deluded), along with all the prejudices, biases and bigotry that entails. This is the kind of thinking we need to move beyond, as a species, for there to be any kind of global spiritual awakening in the future. As things look right now, concerning the level of consciousness of the masses, the situation is quite bleak and we're nowhere near an awakening. The masses simply aren't doing the inner work that's necessary for such an awakening. They're not meditating, they're constantly engaged in selfish behavior, and they're actively avoiding to peer within.

The fall, as described in the Bible, is probably the fall from a very high vibration (true reality / oneness), down to a very low vibration (physical matter), where there seems to be separation. The "rebellion against god" was to see what would happen if we were to try separating ourselves from "it", and create "our own world". Of course, we were always free to do whatever we wanted, as our free will is inherent in the universal consciousness that spawned us in the first place.

Matter is the result of spirit, coming from universal consciousness, traveling outside of the known (spiritual) existence out into the void (that exists outside the singularity), where there was nothing at all. Matter is the chemical reaction between spirit and the void. That spiritual light has been hijacked, converted and perverted into this material existence we find ourselves in, and the only way to keep everyone trapped in the cycle is by tricking them into identifying more and more deeply with the ego.

I believe the void is also the home of archons / demons / djinn. Most of them seem to be jealous of humans, as we have the spark of consciousness (and they don't), and hence we have a way of returning home one day (to universal consciousness), but they don't. This is why we have things like demonic possession, poltergeist activity etc. Demons exist in a vibrational plane just below us humans, and they're trying to hijack our evolution and possess our bodies in order to escape from whatever hell realm they currently exist in.

If you watch a lot of horror movies, then you'll know possession always begins when the victim is spiritually weak, sad, worried or angry in some way. Because that's the vibration of the demons, and they use the human ego to generate these feelings and attitudes in order to make us more compatible with them, and through that influence our thoughts and in turn our actions. They feed on our negative emotions, and that's how they extract the spiritual energy that's actually meant for us, coming from universal consciousness through the spark within (and finally to our physical body and self). Demonic beings have found a way to turn humanity into a power grid that allows the demons to extract that energy, as they have no energy of their own. Staying positive and in a state of love, no matter the physical circumstances, is the only defense against demonic influences. Demons want us to remain in a state of fear, as that's the only way to keep this circus going. If everyone chose to be in a state of love, it would instantly dissolve the illusory material existence and we would wake up from this nightmarish dream of a world that never truly existed at all. We would return "home", leaving the demons to their ultimate fate.

Responding to trolls like QiikSand on his level only serves to lower our own vibration. As Morpheus says in the Matrix, the people who aren't yet unplugged are a part of the system and hence our enemies. That's not a call for discrimination, animosity or violence against them, but a warning that they are quite hopeless, and there's no way to make them snap out of whatever lens of insanity they're currently viewing life through. Maybe having to suffer through a thousand more turns of the "wheel of reincarnation" will teach those souls to get pragmatic about their spiritual evolution, but until then it's best to just stay away and let them be.

Trying to talk sense into QiikSand is quite pointless, as his goal is not to reach understanding but to generate conflict, because he's conflicted within himself due to all the demonic influence that's working through his ego.

I believe the uppermost world elite are possessed by demons, and do various secret rituals and channelings to get in contact with them and get useful knowledge that will help them keep and expand their power over the rest of humanity. They probably believe they're communing with Satan / Lucifer or some alien / other-worldly / other-dimensional consciousness. They all want us plebs to believe that there's no such thing as the spiritual world, or demons, as that's how they can operate in the dark, by subliminally influencing us to let ourselves be run by the ego, and turn on each other. That's how division is created in our society, keeping everyone busy fighting each other, instead of fighting the actual evil that is our present world order / political / cultural / religious system.

Perhaps the experiment was to see what would happen if we were to try separating ourselves from our source (universal consciousness). That's why the demonically possessed clowns who are running the show exist. Their job is to be evil, as to awaken us to good, and perhaps our job is lashing back at the elite, shaming them in the process and teaching them that their behavior is detrimental to everyone's spiritual evolution (incl. their own). There are those beings who have used their free will to abandon their true self and live as energy vampires and leeches on the lifeforce of unsuspecting others (who still have the spark burning within).

Their behavior is identical to that of narcissists, sociopaths and psychopaths. This is why I believe this to be a sign of demonic possession. Those diagnoses imply a complete lack of empathy, manipulative behavior, and a willingness to step on others to get ahead in life. Anyone who has dealt with a narcissist in real life, and then done the research on narcissism, knows that they all follow the same playbook. The manipulation tactics are the same in all narcissistic individuals. If you've understood this, it's very easy to recognize them, and you'll be wise enough to not let them into your life. Just go the other way.

This world, and the universal narcissist that is the ego, is what happens when we try separating ourselves from our source. Of course, any actual separation from source is impossible, as all is one. All we can do is to believe and pretend ourselves into physical existence, but it's a choice we made from a higher spiritual plane and then forgot as our memory is wiped in-between lives. As time went on, many got stuck in the cycle of reincarnation and had their memory wiped so many times, that they completely identify with their physical self, along with all the worldly beliefs and concepts that have been created by the human ego throughout the eons. You can never find true insight through thoughts, as they all come from the ego, and they're very easily influenced by demons. Only by awakening intuition, which is emotion-based intelligence (coming from the highest spiritual plane / the spark within), and letting that intuition / awareness rule the ego, is there any hope at all of becoming truly spiritually enlightened.

The goal isn't to remove the ego, as that can't be done without dying, but the goal is to master the ego through the burning spark within, using intuition and awareness.

We are supposed to use the neocortex (the newest and most advanced part of the brain) to dominate the lower parts of our brain. But, in QiikSand's case, he has let the lower (and older) reptilian part of his brain (the brain stem) hijack all the higher functions, thereby operating at a low intelligence that's not susceptible to rationality. The ego has no creativity, intelligence or awareness. People who are utterly ruled by it can't see, hear or understand anything.

It's useless explaining anything to QiikSand, as he simply will not hear any of it. I wrote this post for everyone else. I hope it was helpful.

So tell us all...how did your world get so FUCKED up?  

[Fant0men]

So tell us all...how did your world get so FUCKED up?  

I already did tell you. The fundamental problem is the human ego, both the collective ego and each individual ego. Though, both are related, as we form our own individual ego based on the collective ego. Also, demons.

That's what's causing all the problems in the world, and has for many thousands of years. Maybe even longer than that.

[QiikSand]

So tell us all...how did your world get so FUCKED up?  

I already did tell you. The fundamental problem is the human ego, both the collective ego and each individual ego. Though, both are related, as we form our own individual ego based on the collective ego. Also, demons.

That's what's causing all the problems in the world, and has for many thousands of years. Maybe even longer than that.

If your hypothesis is the true then prove it by naming just 1 thing 
that YOU can say, think or do that is not determined by something else.

By YOU not being able to do it...is my proof that your hypothesis is false.

[Fant0men]

If your hypothesis is the true then prove it by naming just 1 thing 
that YOU can say, think or do that is not determined by something else.

By YOU not being able to do it...is my proof that your hypothesis is false.

Acting without seeing the situation, or listening to your intuition, is sure to lead to all kinds of bad results. To make good decisions, that lead to good results, one must have awareness of the present moment. There's no such awareness from the viewpoint of the human ego, which is time-bound (past / future). You need to drop who you think you are before you can see clearly what's actually going on right now, and only then can you make good decisions.

One must see reality before being able to change it for the better.

When egoic people make decisions that have good results, it's always by accident and not through their own conscious doing. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

I don't have to explain to you how a non-existent awareness leads to bad decisions and bad results. It's self-explanatory, like stumbling around with a blindfold and trying to live your life properly.

[QiikSand]

If your hypothesis is the true then prove it by naming just 1 thing 
that YOU can say, think or do that is not determined by something else.

By YOU not being able to do it...is my proof that your hypothesis is false.

Acting without seeing the situation, or listening to your intuition, is sure to lead to all kinds of bad results. To make good decisions, that lead to good results, one must have awareness of the present moment. There's no such awareness from the viewpoint of the human ego, which is time-bound (past / future). You need to drop who you think you are before you can see clearly what's actually going on right now, and only then can you make good decisions.

One must see reality before being able to change it for the better.

When egoic people make decisions that have good results, it's always by accident and not through their own conscious doing. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

I don't have to explain to you how a non-existent awareness leads to bad decisions and bad results. It's self-explanatory, like stumbling around with a blindfold and trying to live your life properly.

You don't have to explain anything for me to prove your hypothesis is false.

Even with out you doing anything...my proof is undeniable that your hypothesis is false.

Even with or with out any explanation from you.



If your hypothesis is the true then prove it by naming just 1 thing 
that YOU or ANYONE ELSE can say, think or do that is not determined by something else.

By YOU  or ANYONE ELSE will not being able to do it...is my proof that your hypothesis is false.

[LZA]

Despite OPs best efforts, Fant0men and Wargeim turned this into an interesting thread.

Through my experiences, which may have been obtained by cheating/massive drugs and not self-realization I can't help but to mirror the same conclusions. Before, I'd read all the stuff and try to apply it (including very limited organized religion) That again, everything and nothing applies.

Drop the ego, and what you thought you knew (Socrates did the same), and even some of what qiik said seems a different interpretation of what is... A lot is a twisted view of truth mixed with the ego (his weak ego) to create a situation that is perfect for him. What he doesn't realize it's already perfect, and instead of reaching for it, you just have to be open and accept it coming into you. A lot of what he hays are metaphors of what hes twisting. Even organized religion I have to dmid I used to think was wrong, now I see is just incomplete and also twisted by men, but if you hear wants to take the good from it, religion for someone can be a literal lifesaver.

Fant0men:I read everything you read and I couldn't agree more. I've experienced what you said and what was in books I have not read... The ends justified the means, since now with a clear head, I can properly apply what I improperly obtained... A look into the spiritual world.

The only thing I have to admit, I troll him and fight on his level, as you say may be playing with fire, BUT knowing what I know anout demon levels, I can never be possesed. I know their purpose and how/why they work. Actually, Looks up the demon Belial (demon of hopelessness), I thought he wasn;t only inside me, but he WAS part of me. Half him, ad half God. That's why the angry Superman is a symbol of how the most pure people can get taken. I know I'm sounding like qiik, but I'm only living up t my warped level of articulation.

I figure if he's trying to make us all miserable, to turn it on him, and since I knew this, I'd stay safe... I don't mind taking the hit on my appearance, since people who really know me know me. Plus, sometimes I don't care (maybe my depression from this physical realm) wins and I just DGAF...

Like wargeim said... He's one of us, and I kinda believe what he's saying in a psychotic way is true. NONE of us are from this world. We originate from the spirit level *which is complete), to a fragmented physical level (here now). In the physical, we forget who we are as spirits, so we can then experience who we are, and the main energy (God) can live it with us, through us. You can apply an ego or any physical tool, to explain any spiritual thing (and vice versa) I don't think OP can make that distinction.

I remember someone telling me we are humans on a spiritual journey, and I argued the opposite is true). You don't need to try to be good, just try to remember you already are. And the demons or I called it the negative energy (remember the all and nothing is part of God). Negative energy is a tool to use to see that when we realize we are different from it, we must be the opposite... If it was day all the time, we wouldn't know it was the day. but since we have a night, we have a comparison. Everyting good or bad that happens to us we need. It's not what happens, but how we react to it that counts.

I also believe in reincarnation and the fact time only exists here... I think as spirits we can choose to live where and when we want, to try to increase our energy in the source, to be like the source (GOd), since God lives through us, are gains are his gains, so like the universe in the physical, God expands as well. HE grows when we do. Infinity is not long enough, as the growth is never-ending. exciting to know that there is another life where I fixed all mistakes in this one... But then, there are other mistakes I make in its place, and other lives lived to fix those.... The saga continues

[Fant0men]

Despite OPs best efforts, Fant0men and Wargeim turned this into an interesting thread.

Through my experiences, which may have been obtained by cheating/massive drugs and not self-realization I can't help but to mirror the same conclusions. Before, I'd read all the stuff and try to apply it (including very limited organized religion) That again, everything and nothing applies.

Drop the ego, and what you thought you knew (Socrates did the same), and even some of what qiik said seems a different interpretation of what is... A lot is a twisted view of truth mixed with the ego (his weak ego) to create a situation that is perfect for him. What he doesn't realize it's already perfect, and instead of reaching for it, you just have to be open and accept it coming into you. A lot of what he hays are metaphors of what hes twisting. Even organized religion I have to dmid I used to think was wrong, now I see is just incomplete and also twisted by men, but if you hear wants to take the good from it, religion for someone can be a literal lifesaver.

Fant0men:I read everything you read and I couldn't agree more. I've experienced what you said and what was in books I have not read... The ends justified the means, since now with a clear head, I can properly apply what I improperly obtained... A look into the spiritual world.

The only thing I have to admit, I troll him and fight on his level, as you say may be playing with fire, BUT knowing what I know anout demon levels, I can never be possesed. I know their purpose and how/why they work. Actually, Looks up the demon Belial (demon of hopelessness), I thought he wasn;t only inside me, but he WAS part of me. Half him, ad half God. That's why the angry Superman is a symbol of how the most pure people can get taken. I know I'm sounding like qiik, but I'm only living up t my warped level of articulation.

I figure if he's trying to make us all miserable, to turn it on him, and since I knew this, I'd stay safe... I don't mind taking the hit on my appearance, since people who really know me know me. Plus, sometimes I don't care (maybe my depression from this physical realm) wins and I just DGAF...

Like wargeim said... He's one of us, and I kinda believe what he's saying in a psychotic way is true. NONE of us are from this world. We originate from the spirit level *which is complete), to a fragmented physical level (here now). In the physical, we forget who we are as spirits, so we can then experience who we are, and the main energy (God) can live it with us, through us. You can apply an ego or any physical tool, to explain any spiritual thing (and vice versa) I don't think OP can make that distinction.

I remember someone telling me we are humans on a spiritual journey, and I argued the opposite is true). You don't need to try to be good, just try to remember you already are.  And the demons or I called it the negative energy (remember the all and nothing is part of God). Negative energy is a tool to use to see that when we realize we are different from it, we must be the opposite... If it was day all the time, we wouldn't know it was the day. but since we have a night, we have a comparison. Everyting good or bad that happens to us we need. It's not what happens, but how we react to it that counts.

I also believe in reincarnation and the fact time only exists here... I think as spirits we can choose to live where and when we want, to try to increase our energy in the source, to be like the source (GOd), since God lives through us, are gains are his gains, so like the universe in the physical, God expands as well. HE grows when we do. Infinity is not long enough, as the growth is never-ending. exciting to know that there is another life where I fixed all mistakes in this one... But then, there are other mistakes I make in its place, and other lives lived to fix those.... The saga continues

I agree that even the dark void is a part of god, or universal consciousness as I call it. I think it was a part of god that was left unexplored until we went here and looked. Seems like we got more than we could handle, hence the present situation with all the suffering and all.

I think the void is god's asshole, where he shits out all the things that are unpleasant, so here we are looking at it all in order for god to grow. We are doing god's work. Most are doing it while being completely unaware that this is what they're doing. Just by being ourselves and living our lives, we make universal consciousness expand with new experiences and new perspectives. However, once one knows this, one can take conscious control of one's spiritual evolution in order for it to go faster.

I used to not believe in demons for a long time, but having seen what I've seen when it comes to highly narcissistic individuals, I can see that they're all part of some kind of evil hive-mind. Many of them are openly into Satanism and black magick. They get told things (by voices) that they can't possibly know, and they always get help in life no matter how badly they fuck up. It's like there's a hidden hand controlling them on a collective level, and also protecting them from the consequences of their stupid / selfish actions. They're too dumb to be able to pull off what they do, so I'm convinced they get help from demons.

They never get a scratch, but it's everyone around them that gets burnt. There is such a thing as karma, cause and effect, so I think narcissists are getting help in delaying the karma package that's coming their way, by constantly deflecting and diverting the negative effects to everyone else around them. Of course, this probably just means them digging a deeper grave for themselves once that karma package finally arrives. It's the same thing with demons. They know they're doomed, so they're just trying to party it up and make as much damage as they can before they go.

I've gone back and forth when it comes to religion. A lot of golden nuggets can be found in those old dusty books, if one has the discernment to interpret the allegories, and read from a higher level that understands symbolism. I especially enjoy reading the gospels and other Gnostic texts. As you say, religious texts have all been tampered with. They weren't written by one person at one time and place, and even when they were, they have been copied so many times that there's bound to be changes and errors in them.

We simply don't have the original versions of any of the books, and that's too bad, because there are probably some important changes that made the religions stray from the original path set by the authors of the texts and the founders of those religions. We know fuck-all about the first couple of centuries of Christianity. I think the Catholic Church has probably done a lot of book burning, persecution, execution and revision of history. Though they still probably have a lot of that stuff stored away in their private library that no one is allowed to see.

Most of all, these texts need to be read through the cultural lens of what life was like at the time, and what people were like and their worldview.

I'm far from perfect, and far from enlightened. Even if I somehow one day become enlightened, I would never want to call myself that, as it's narcissistic and doesn't help anyone.

Everything is perfect. Even when it's shitty. I agree.

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I'm far from perfect, and far from enlightened. Even if I somehow one day become enlightened, I would never want to call myself that, as it's narcissistic and doesn't help anyone.

Everything is perfect. Even when it's shitty. I agree.

I agree, but I look at it like, knowing that I know nothing about enlightenment but catching glimpses here and there makes me enlightened as compared to my past self. And maybe that's the key, keep trying to gain and learn. I KNOW I'll never have all the info t say I'm truly anything... That's why I never say either , or in any argument. I like how scientists put things in "Likely" or "not likely" terms.

But you strive for enlightenment, picking up things on the way, you are on the path. The only one you can compare knowledge too is your past self... You can't look at someone lie Gandhi or Socrates and their levels... Only if you are a better self than before... That's the God journey

Narcissists like OP ate locked in a narrow-minded, arrogant/ignorant HELL because there is no room for learning. They believe there is nothing more to learn since they know... But like enlightenment, with knowledge, it's only when you get a little of either you realize how much you really DON'T know.

OP is in a war with himself, the war is being fought with himself. He's hoping it comes to us and is trying to go make that happen... An attempt at evil demon possession so to speak. There is hope for everyone, but as long as he considers himself superior, and puts himself in a different category, he'll be impossible to reach

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Also, the evil can be gods asshole, or it could be anything that we don't like about ourselves that we negatively focus on.. Or nose, weight, penis size... Etc. I believe we are made in God's image, so any part of yourself you don't like can fir that bill. It's accepting what you don't like as yourself when you can alleviate your pain...metaphorically speaking of course