The Shining: Redrum (1980) Fan Edit
#1
Hello Again Everyone 

I have a very different Fan Edit this time REALLY DIFFERENT then the other things I have posted and because of that i have once again given great detail on what you are watching 

Let me know what you think 

ENJOY !
Shibby


https://archive.org/details/REDRUM_201811


DETAILS ON THIS FAN EDIT :

The Shining: Redrum (1980) Fan Edit

Faneditor Name:
ranger613
Tagline:
The Shining: Forwards and Backwards...
Original Movie Title:
The Shining
Genre:
DramaHorrorMysteryThriller
Fanedit Type:
Special Projects
Original Release Date:
1980
Original Running Time:
119
Fanedit Release Date:
July 2014
Fanedit Running Time:
119
Time Cut:
1
Time Added:
1

Brief Synopsis:

The Shining has always been a mysterious film, with multiple conspiracy theories circulating about hidden messages within. One bizarre practice among the most zealous fans of Stanley Kubrick's horror masterpiece is to attempt to 'uncover' the deepest subconscious meaning of an already subversive film by playing it both forward and backward simultaneously, with the belief that Kubrick had designed the film itself in perfect symmetry, as he did with many of the shots.

The result is best described as unsettling, hallucinatory and disturbing. While by no means was this film officially meant to be watched this way, the visual and thematic parallels of the beginning and end of the film are eerily resonant. The first scene for example has Jack telling his employers that "there's no way he's going to go insane" while we watch the shadowy reverse footage of him stalking his son through a maze, showing how structurally deep and complex the film really is. I did not invent this method of watching The Shining, but have put my own spin on it to make it a more satisfying experience.

Intention:
There's really nothing I can say to promote this experiment, it is a bizarre, unsettling, unforgettable and enlightening visual experience of an extraordinarily deep film, best suited for fans of The Shining and Kubrick to experience, at least once.. if just once... It is a film which haunts itself.

The Forward-Backward experiment involves playing the film both forward and in reverse at the same time, however only the forward audio is played to maintain spatial orientation. However I did make several creative changes to both improve the image quality (by adjusting the opacity of scenes that were too bright to keep both streams visible) and the narrative. The narrative changes were only made AFTER the midpoint (or convergence point) where both forward and backward streams meet. This was done to increase the disturbing nature of the experience and further mirror Jack's descent into madness. Of note, I used the European Cut of the Shining for this edit as it simply worked better in forward-backward form.
Additional Notes:
The Shining (European Cut) used for the edit.
Other Sources:
The Shining (U.S. Theatrical Cut)


Editing Details:

Adobe Premiere CC
Cuts and Additions:
1. Title cards added before first shot to indicate this is the "Redrum" edition
2. Film played forwards and backwards simultaneously. Opacity adjusted depending on shots to keep both streams in clear focus.
3. In the forward stream, a brief scene of Halloran calling the ranger station is cut (although this scene can be seen in the reverse stream)- approximately 1 min cut
4. During the airplane scene with Halloran, the forward and reverse stream switch positions for the remainder of the scene
5. "Danny's not here Mrs Torrance" scene from US Cut added back in - approximately 1 min restored
6. In the final maze chase, the reverse stream is largely abandoned in favor of a sole forward stream. The reason is because visually, the early scenes were too bright and blew out the visuals the night chase. Narratively, the impact of the chase is lessened by showing the interview scene in reverse stream again (this is a juxtaposition we already experienced at the start of the edit), so it was dropped. Overall, only around 3 minutes of these final scenes have no reverse stream.
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#2
dude is there any way you could put all your stuff into one thread? i'm not trying to dissuade you from uploading and i know u mean well but do u realize that ONE-THIRD of the first page of this RIFFTRAX forum is now your NON-RIFFTRAX uploads?
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#3
not rifftrax but do you have access the the complete Fractured Flickers series from the 1960s?
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#4
(Nov 08, 2018, 08:54 am)enyalep Wrote: dude is there any way you could put all your stuff into one thread? i'm not trying to dissuade you from uploading and i know u mean well but do u realize that ONE-THIRD of the first page of this RIFFTRAX forum is now your NON-RIFFTRAX uploads?

Hello There 

Sure, in fact I'm done sharing  ......... I'm stopping, and not to be rude back , ut these are reasons I dont share  ........ and FYI I have Rifftrax stuff intermixed with everydaay stuff to mix it up a bit , look at my HULK post  ......... 

But seeing how I post as i upload , i thought it would be better that way , guess i was wrong 

Some of this stuff you have to go into great detail or most would not understand what there watching 

My BAD for F'ing things up  ............ 

Shibby

(Nov 08, 2018, 09:53 am)TheDarkPrince2018 Wrote: not rifftrax but do you have access the the complete Fractured Flickers series from the 1960s?

Hello There 

YES!  I have that , along with a SHITLOAD of things you would think was lost in time r just Lost at the moment  ...... LOL 

but as you can see from others, I guess my efforts are in vain ...... so i guess contact me outside of here and maybe we can chat 

and i want to say this to all to all who will be reading this, you all have shared so much and in my little way i was trying to give back ... end of story 

Thanks 
Shibby
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#5
Could you upload the Fractured Flickers to archive.org? Please and thank you in advance.
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#6
(Nov 08, 2018, 13:48 pm)TheDarkPrince2018 Wrote: Could you upload the Fractured Flickers to archive.org? Please and thank you in advance.

Hello There 

First i have to go into the Vault dig them up on DVD convert then upload , so  ...... give a few and i will do it 

Let me ask you thought on item I have offered  ? 

Shibby

(Nov 08, 2018, 13:48 pm)TheDarkPrince2018 Wrote: Could you upload the Fractured Flickers to archive.org? Please and thank you in advance.

Hello again 

OK so heres the deal i went thru my Vault and sometimes i think i need a orical to tell me what I have sometimes  ..... lol

I was going to up the eps i had however YOUTUBE beat me to it  and the eps / bits that i had 90% is already up there 

So Sorry to let you down there , 

NEXT REQUEST ? 

Shibby
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#7
Crappy movie...forwards or backwards.  The only thing disturbing about it is that people think Kubrick was such a genius ~ the man that wanted Robin Williams to play Jack.
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#8
I agree that one thread would be ideal. I like what you have to offer, but this IS a RiffTrax thread. Like BadFilms does with the DripTrax updates. By all means, keep sharing; people just don't want the thread clogged with so much non-RT material.
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#9
(Nov 08, 2018, 15:23 pm)airenman Wrote: Crappy movie...forwards or backwards.  The only thing disturbing about it is that people think Kubrick was such a genius ~ the man that wanted Robin Williams to play Jack.

Hello 

My mother says the samething about the man  

I like see the different Versions Fan Editors can come up with not all good not all bad 

As for Robbin William as Jack , shocking but at the time frame i can see it ever see the Robin William movie Siezed the day  ?  some dark shit , in fact the movie starts with him bitching up a storm and goes down hill for there 

Thoughts ?
Shibby

(Nov 08, 2018, 15:30 pm)Meat Trademark Wrote: I agree that one thread would be ideal. I like what you have to offer, but this IS a RiffTrax thread. Like BadFilms does with the DripTrax updates. By all means, keep sharing; people just don't want the thread clogged with so much non-RT material.

Hello 

Understandable ,

But to be fair , then the Joe Bob stuff and the likes of it should be put to the side aswell with it not being RIFFTRAX  ..... 

because I told a few prople i would i upload like 5 more things  ......... i would tell more but well you know  so  I'll just leave it at that  

but heres a thought someone make a thread for everything not rifftrax  ...... and then people like me can have a place to share if there inclinded to 

A side note, have to admit so far pretty good collection of things shared  

Shibby
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#10
(Nov 08, 2018, 16:23 pm)shibby Wrote: But to be fair , then the Joe Bob stuff and the likes of it should be put to the side aswell with it not being RIFFTRAX  ..... 

but heres a thought someone make a thread for everything not rifftrax  ...... and then people like me can have a place to share if there inclinded to 


you do have a place to share! it's called your own thread! make a "shibby's thread" thread and put all your stuff there! i said "put your stuff in your own thread" not "stop sharing"! i recently directed a friend to this forum because it's THE place for rifftrax, he's gonna get back to me like "why did you send me to a misnamed Star Wars fan edit page?" no, the joe bob stuff doesn't need to be "put to the side", because it's one thread! just don't clog the forum, i don't understand why this even needs to be explained to you, this is common etiquette
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