Superman Vs Batman

[LZA]

First, let me get the legistics outtha way:

IMDB link



Trailer^^^^

OK, formerly calling myself Batman, now progressed to Superman, you would think I loved this movie. and I did, out of respect for the characters.
Was it built up more than what I thought?     Sadly, I have to say yes.

Now I'm one guy with one opinion, but this could have been as big as the LOTR triliogy if they did it correctly... They didn't.

What they did was try to mash multiple stories and barf it out in a few hour movie. TOO many interesting plots lay wasted for the compromise of an abbreviated Justice League story.

The Batman, Superman fight was cool, their make up. but to bring in Wonder woman as an (oh, by the way) didn't do her story justice... I guess if there was a sequel, it would build on her, but it just touched the tip of the ice berg. The depth between batman and sup could have been better. it's almost like they tried, but realized "oh shit, we don't want this to be a 4 hour movie)... Again, Wonderwoman was screwed out of an in depth story line.

Doomsday kills Superman, but they watered it down in the movie..

If they did it right, this movie could have been broken into at least 3 sequels to properly tell the story .

if another squeal comes out, though, you bet your ass I'm there!!!!

[connor17]

The movie is a mess.
The batman dreams, about a future apocalypse world, what is that about?
And the "I'm too soon" dude? "You were right!" waaaat
And the girl? "I thought she was with you". Is that supossed  to be a joke?
And the mutant monster, what's the purpose of that?
Luthor is overacted, creepy, absurd.
In a nutshell, another superhero garbage nonsense.

[RobertX]

You spoiled the plot for us, connor17.

[connor17]

Martha ... Martha ...

[LZA]

Ya, l couldn't get into lex Luther either..wrong actor.

[connor17]

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/ja...6-nominees

My guess:

Worst movie
Worst supporting actor
Worst screenplay
Worst combo
Worst rip-off

[LZA]

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/ja...6-nominees

My guess:

Worst movie
Worst supporting actor
Worst screenplay
Worst combo
Worst rip-off



It pains me to have to agree since I love Superman, BUT, Superman didn't have a big part in it.. No so many lines, and I HATE how they turned Zod into Doomsday... There is a Justice League coming out, I hope it's better.  Just to reiterate: I hated Lex Luther (almost said Lex Luger)

[Hawk]

The only way this movie could have been cool was if they came up with an intelligent plot that actually made the beef and a fight between them believable. And thats hard to do. the movie was hardly Superman vs Batman... they just happened to be in it. and adding Wonder woman was retarded. All these movies with multiple super heroes are stupid.

They should have had some sort of plot where superman goes mad and becomes the bad guy and Batman saves the day.

[LZA]

First off, I LOVE that pic. a Drunken irate Superman in Superman III taunting Clark Kent into a fight. The internal battle between good an evil.

The more I watch it, the more I like it. I also like the Justice League, but Zack Snyder's version was cut to peices and made "lighter" than Batman V Superman. I like Ben Affleck's portrayal more in B.V.S... Too many attempts for comedy in the new one.

I brink up Justice League here to illustrate that before seeing it, BVS was good, but now I appreciate it more seeing Justice League. I can start a whole other thread about the pros and cons (mostly cons), with Justice League.

I thought the battle, and reason for it was good for what it was. Batman realizing that an alien with the power of a god and can do what he wanted needed to be stopped in case Sups wanted to go nuts... Until he realized how human Superman was (Like Connor says.. "Martha, Martha" ) he thought of him as a threat. In a way it is kinda like you said: Batman thought Superman was bad and tried to stop him.

The Kryptonite darts were needed or Batman would have his ass handed to him, but it was believable that Superman got his ass kicked since he really doesn't need to know how to fight like Batman does . When you're that strong, why bother. If strength level was equal, Superman would be Batman's bitch.

As far as adding Wonder Woman, I think DC was playing catch up with more heroes since Marvel Has the Avengers.

[Hawk]

I actually havent seen Justice League. Honestly no super hero movie interest me nowadays I like Batman because Nolan made it realistic and 'possible' so it worked.

With BvS, I too thought the idea of a 'false god' was kinda cool. Before the plot came out I was wondering how they were going to make one of them the 'bad guy' and that idea seemed alright. It worked in the trailer, but just wasnt executed in the movie. I assume everybody's seen it, if not **spoilers**.. in the movie Batman jumps the gun and just goes after Superman while Superman wasnt even fighting back nor had he gone bad. So it was just a huge let down. The movie wasnt even BvS really...

I had no problem with the fight, it was just one sided and pretty pointless.

I remember asking a friend who is a huge Batman fan/nerd how Batman could actually beat SUPERman. He asked if I wanted the fun answer or the nerd answer. and he gave me the nerd answer which was pretty much Batman's a genius and in the end would figure out a way to use SM's powers against him. Basically he'd out smart him. And that actully made sense and seemed believable. I wish Nolan had done it because like the Batman trilogy, I think it would have been written way better and believable.

In the end, again... I think they needed to come up with a really cool story, well written that somehow turned superman bad. Maybe play off the false god thing, but it needed to actually come out in superman to where he needed to be stopped.. then a super cool realistic ending of batman out smarting him like he did the Joker. The Joker was way smarter than Bats and was always one step ahead, but Batman pretty much gets lucky and outsmarts him in the end. lol