Porn Copyright Trolls Terrify 60-Year-Old But Age Shouldn’t Matter
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[Image: trollsign.jpg]Of all the anti-piracy tactics deployed over the years, the one that has proven most controversial is so-called copyright-trolling.

The idea is that rather than take content down, copyright holders make use of its online availability to watch people who are sharing that material while gathering their IP addresses.

From there it’s possible to file a lawsuit to obtain that person’s identity but these days they’re more likely to short-cut the system, by asking ISPs to forward notices with cash settlement demands attached.

When subscribers receive these demands, many feel compelled to pay. However, copyright trolls are cunning beasts, and while they initially ask for payment for a single download, they very often have several other claims up their sleeves. Once people have paid one, others come out of the woodwork.

That’s what appears to have happened to a 60-year-old Canadian woman called ‘Debra’. In an email sent via her ISP, she was contacted by local anti-piracy outfit Canipre, who accused her of downloading and sharing porn. With threats that she could be ‘fined’ up to CAD$20,000 for her alleged actions, she paid the company $257.40, despite claiming her innocence.

Of course, at this point the company knew her name and address and this week the company contacted her again, accusing her of another five illegal porn downloads alongside demands for more cash.

“I’m not sleeping,” Debra told CBC. “I have depression already and this is sending me over the edge.”

If the public weren’t so fatigued by this kind of story, people in Debra’s position might get more attention and more help, but they don’t. To be absolutely brutal, the only reason why this story is getting press is due to a few factors.

Firstly, we’re talking here about a woman accused of downloading porn. While far from impossible, it’s at least statistically less likely than if it was a man. Two, Debra is 60-years-old. That doesn’t preclude her from being Internet savvy but it does tip the odds in her favor somewhat. Thirdly, Debra suffers from depression and claims she didn’t carry out those downloads.

On the balance of probabilities, on which these cases live or die, she sounds believable. Had she been a 20-year-old man, however, few people would believe ‘him’ and this is exactly the environment companies like Canipre, Rightscorp, and similar companies bank on.

Debra says she won’t pay the additional fines but Canipre is adamant that someone in her house pirated the porn, despite her husband not being savvy enough to download. The important part here is that Debra says she did not commit an offense and with all the technology in the world, Canpire cannot prove that she did.

“How long is this going to terrorize me?” Debra says. “I’m a good Canadian citizen.”

But Debra isn’t on her own and she’s positively spritely compared to Christine McMillan, who last year at the age of 86-years-old was accused of illegally downloading zombie game Metro 2033. Again, those accusations came from Canipre and while the case eventually went quiet, you can safely bet the company backed off.

So who is to blame for situations like Debra’s and Christine’s? It’s a difficult question.

Clearly, copyright holders feel they’re within their rights to try and claw back compensation for their perceived losses but they already have a legal system available to them, if they want to use it. Instead, however, in Canada they’re abusing the so-called notice-and-notice system, which requires ISPs to forward infringement notices from copyright holders to subscribers.

The government knows there is a problem. Law professor Michael Geist previously obtained a government report, which expresses concern over the practice. Its summary is shown below.


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While the notice-and-notice regime requires ISPs to forward educational copyright infringement notices, most ISPs complain that companies like Canipre add on cash settlement demands.

“Internet intermediaries complain…that the current legislative framework does not expressly prohibit this practice and that they feel compelled to forward on such notices to their subscribers when they receive them from copyright holders,” recent advice to the Minister of Innovation, Science and Economic Development reads.

That being said, there’s nothing stopping ISPs from passing on the educational notices as required by law but insisting that all demands for cash payments are removed. It’s a position that could even get support from the government, if enough pressure was applied.

“The sending of such notices could lead to abuses, given that consumers may be pressured into making payments even in situations where they have not engaged in any acts that violate copyright laws,” government advice notes.

Given the growing problem, it appears that ISPs have the power here so maybe it’s time they protected their customers. In the meantime, consumers have responsibilities too, not only by refraining from infringing copyright, but by becoming informed of their rights.

“[T]here is no legal obligation to pay any settlement offered by a copyright owner, and the regime does not impose any obligations on a subscriber who receives a notice, including no obligation to contact the copyright owner or the Internet intermediary,” government advice notes.

Hopefully, in future, people won’t have to be old or ill to receive sympathy for being wrongly accused and threatened in their own homes. But until then, people should pressure their ISPs to do more while staying informed.

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Originally Published: Tue, 03 Oct 2017 19:00:28 +0000
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While I may disagree with them, I can at least (almost always) understand why the various players in the copyright trolling game do the things they do.

(Oct 03, 2017, 17:16 pm)Ernesto Wrote: That being said, there’s nothing stopping ISPs from passing on the educational notices as required by law but insisting that all demands for cash payments are removed.

But ISP's forwarding demands to their customers for cash payments to third parties, when they are under no legal or even moral obligation to do so I truly cannot understand.
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(Oct 03, 2017, 17:21 pm)Sid Wrote: But ISP's forwarding demands to their customers for cash payments to third parties, when they are under no legal or even moral obligation to do so I truly cannot understand.

They do it to prevent some lawsuits and say they are complying within the law. Here our ISP just forwards the notice that copyright infringement took place and you should cease to continue. The ISP also gets a tiny percent of the money for complying with the letter and bringing in the revenue.
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That is not a plausible explanation. The law specifically requires the forwarding of educational notices. It does not require the forwarding of speculative invoices/demands/threats.

The ISP's are voluntarily intimidating their own customers on behalf of random third parties. Actively damaging their own businesses on a continuing basis. A lawsuit would most likely free them from that but in the worst case it would merely compel them to do what they are already doing (while making it clear to their customers that they are fighting for their interests and only forwarding the threats because they are legally compelled to do so).
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(Oct 03, 2017, 18:27 pm)Sid Wrote: That is not a plausible explanation. The law specifically requires the forwarding of educational notices. It does not require the forwarding of speculative invoices/demands/threats.

The ISP's are voluntarily intimidating their own customers on behalf of random third parties. Actively damaging their own businesses on a continuing basis. A lawsuit would most likely free them from that but in the worst case it would merely compel them to do what they are already doing (while making it clear to their customers that they are fighting for their interests and only forwarding the threats because they are legally compelled to do so).

Thanks for the clarification, looks like I have gotten it wrong the whole time.

So if they can target anybody because of their so called monitoring system, do they just want the cash? Example: If a guy has internet at his house, but has no computer. They would still target him because his IP came up?

I am really confused know by this intriguing question.
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Yes, all they need to be able to trigger a demand is an IP address, a date/time stamp and a torrent hash.

Mostly (and originally) the copyright "owners" don't care about the cash, they were/are seeking to maintain their monopoly on distribution.

Sensing the potential, others, the copyright trolls, have entered the market purely for the cash.

That's easy to understand.

It's the (relatively few) ISP's who forward demands they apparently don't need to that confuse me. Some ISP's don't forward anything. Some forward messages but strip the demands out first. Some ISPs are subsidiaries of media companies so they comply because of their overarching interests. But some ISP's do the seemingly inexplicable.
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They really want to keep their monopoly intact.

Sid edited Oct 04, 2017 01:30 am this post because:

The only one I see posting off topic in here is you.

We clean up after spammers--the tool we use to ban them automatically deletes all of their posts.

Which leaves anyone dumb enough to quote their posts holding the can. Don't make me clean up after you.

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