I run a torrent search site, need help blocking child porn.

[urbanguac]

I run Torrent Paradise. Yesterday, I launched v2.0 and looked at running queries in the database to get an idea of what people are looking for. I was shocked to discover that people use my site to search for child porn. At first, I made the search silently return nothing if the query contains some terms like "preteen", "14yo", etc. This won't work long term though, because after I can't seem to find all the terms they use ("mafiasex" is apparently a term that returns mostly what seems like child porn).

I tried entering some of these terms into The Pirate Bay and it seems that there is no such issue. I understand that this is probably because of the human moderation The Pirate Bay uses. However, I was thinking that when they block/not let into their index, they might build up a blocklist so people don't keep trying to resubmit the same torrent multiple times. Is this something the mods would be kind enough to provide me? I believe that blocking child porn (or helping others to do so) is in the interest of everybody and a net good for the world.

P.S. the torrents were initially sourced from TPB dumps, then I added RSS feeds, but then TPB stopped providing dumps, so I started crawling the DHT myself. The DHT is apparently unsurprisingly where all this pedo content comes from.

[ill88eagle]

Kudos for the site!

First of all I'd put up a disclaimer waivering all responsibility for indexed torrents (nothing is uploaded or hosted, indexing is automated, yada yada). Then I'd add a 'report CP' button. As for the silent return nothing policy maybe a scare page like they had (or still have?) on imgfap saying "your IP has been reported to the FBI" or something like that whenever someone searches for pedo stuff - also have the actual search results dumped to a file for review in order to manually weed out shit you don't want in your db. I don't think there's a way of automating it. You'll need active moderation like TPB.

[dueda]

Can we talk intelligence & intervention?

Instead of find nothing, you can work on diversity, giving many bogus results (all dead or broken or fake torrents), error, etc. And instead of calling out you're telling the FBI, just flag and track the users for as long the trail is hot, you'll find a lot more that way. Artificial Intelligence and Big Data are nasty, but useful. Cross check all you can: Hack into IPs, telcos, banks, FB, etc.

The moral question: You'll become the (little) Big Brother, the nemesis of what TPB advocates. Hentai, CG, or just live action role playing (kid-looking actors) allow people to explore their darkest fantasies, should you censor that too?
After CP comes zoo, necro, racism, religion, privacy (like Paris Hilton's sex tape), etc. To what point people can deny what they did or what they truly are? Of course, abusing children or incapacitated beings is wrong.

[analogkid6103]

Regular porn is bad enough about it with the constant use of keywords like teenage,school girls, barley legal, ect. It almost sounds like they would rather post CP but dont.... not because its wrong but only cause its illegal. Makes me wonder how much CP would be around if it was not illegal. Scary shit.

[RobertX]

I suppose you can try to teach the error of the ways to the searcher just like how games have a "pirate" trap and tell them the "errors" of pirating software.

Just a thought.

EDIT: Like ill88eagle said, you can put a disclaimer, a report button, or a scare page, but ultimately, you can't do much about what people use your web page for. As an example, Microsoft of all parties can use pirated software to run their business despite that they seem to teach the immorality of piracy.

To add another example, Canonical, a software organisation that is based on "software freedom," would go in bed with Chinese companies despite the fact that Nelson Mandela would want nothing to do with China and its companies. Such a wicked twist of irony, don't you think?

[nosnavis]

I think the way to go is human moderation. I once found an automatized torrent page that scrapped automatically torrents from DHT that had like literally 10-15 times more torrents than TPB. You could find rare and fringe shit there. But there was cp shit there, not loads, but enough to notice while browsing (maybe more, a good part of the torrents were in japanese/chinese/russian, so they could have had whatever).

I got spooked of using it, because I thought the police would be actively catching IP's from that site, because they weren't even trying to cover it up, straight spelled out in the name of the torrent, age, country, etc. Now, seeing what they have done to Prince Andrew and all the Epstein shit, I think maybe that site was safer than pirating normal stuff, the police cares more about protecting Disney bucks than for poor kids begin human-trafficked.

There's like a million sub-reddits that have moderation. There is people who have the time and the motivation to do work like this.

[RobertX]

I tend to agree with nosnavis.

TPB has been moderated actively by humans, and helped by humans who report the files, and the situation works quite well.

I guess it all comes down to, do you have enough resources to keep the human interaction, be them moderators or volunteers, as well as the bills to shut out the child porn that you want to get rid of?

I'll say this to nosnavis: you don't need to worry about being caught by merely doing a search, you'll have to be careful if you're planning to download them however. If you're not, you're fine. I can type "nigger" on a Google search engine, but would I necessarily be labelled a racist and be arrested for hate speech? What if I just want to find the etymology of the word? Or in urbanguac's case, what if I'm trying to test the resilience of the search engine for blocking out unwanted search results?

If you're dealing with large matters like these, you'll need to learn a lot of tricks and, not to mention, a lot of caveats.

[Q91]

privacy (like Paris Hilton's sex tape)

You do know her porn movie was leaked on purpose right? Hulk Hogan's (wife's) sex tape was not, which got Gawker media a huge fine several years ago when they published it.

[nosnavis]

Or in urbanguac's case, what if I'm trying to test the resilience of the search engine for blocking out unwanted search results?

The sad part is that I send links to the police in my country, nothing happened, at least to my knwledge. I wasn't doing nothing wrong, other than pirating stuff, so I didn't have nothing to fear (here pirating has negligible consequences if you don't sell the files) I thought they would send the info to the interpol or the fbi, or whatever. I never got a response, the site was online years after, and the police is so third world they tell the press when they work with agencies from wealthy countries, and there haven't been raids for child porn in years (it used to be kinda common for a while, It stopped about 5 years ago. They were close to powerful people, the local conspiracy theories says.

[RobertX]

How old is Hogan's wife, and who would want to watch Hogan do anyone?