Hi there what do you think of Linux Oses and the kernel itself

[RobertX]

dueda, how does macOS sound?

[Fant0men]

dueda, how does macOS sound?

I second this. macOS is a great system if you're willing to live within the Apple ecosystem, and have the money to spare on their high-end hardware. Maybe a specced-out Mac Mini would be the most cost-effective option. The best option is obviously a Mac Pro, but most people don't have enough money for that.

I was on Mac for a few years before switching full-time to Linux, and I was pretty happy there.

On macOS you get the benefit of it being UNIX, but with the added ease of use. You have the option to explore things like the Terminal at your leisure, but it's not required to ever touch the Terminal in macOS. Everything can be done graphically.

[dueda]

dueda, how does macOS sound?

By 2012 I had a "snow white" Macbook that reminded me lots of the old Apple //c (imo a gem of design).

MacOS had two problems: 

1. It lacked international support, Apple's keyboard besides plain English was total BS, like giving us a tissue and saying "here's your parachute, you can jump now". And they don't even care to reply emails about it.

2. It lacked games (and fancy RGB) - For "creators" and "high-end users" Apple may be the only choice - For me, it was no choice. Modern Apple M2/M3 can do graphics, but by 2012 it was Intel iGPU only, and they couldn't care less for game developers, another BS business strategy.

As others said, it's a great system; I liked the speed, stability, ease, etc - if you're on English and don't play games.

[Fant0men]

dueda, how does macOS sound?

By 2012 I had a "snow white" Macbook that reminded me lots of the old Apple //c (imo a gem of design).

MacOS had two problems: 

1. It lacked international support, Apple's keyboard besides plain English was total BS, like giving us a tissue and saying "here's your parachute, you can jump now". And they don't even care to reply emails about it.

2. It lacked games (and fancy RGB) - For "creators" and "high-end users" Apple may be the only choice - For me, it was no choice. Modern Apple M2/M3 can do graphics, but by 2012 it was Intel iGPU only, and they couldn't care less for game developers, another BS business strategy.

As others said, it's a great system; I liked the speed, stability, ease, etc - if you're on English and don't play games.

That might be true regarding internationalization. I remember when I was switching to the Dvorak keyboard layout (Swedish version), I had to hunt down a file for that online. It was not available in the base OS, back then. Maybe it's included now, I would not know. In Linux, the situation is completely different. Dvorak support is included by default.

When it comes to games on Macs, I think the situation has improved a lot since they went the ARM route, cause it unified their whole ecosystem with every device having the same chipsets and the same basic OS (iOS is based on macOS). Macs having ARM processors means you can now access the iOS App Store on a Mac, and play all the games released there. Also, due to how performant Apple's chips are, even their mobile devices can now run AAA games, and it seems like they're reaching out more to game studios to make them port their games to macOS / iOS. There's also the Apple Arcade service now, which is sort of like an App Store for games.

Ironically, if you're a gamer, the best system for that besides Windows is Linux. This is thanks to Valve's work and contributions with the Steamdeck, SteamOS, Proton and WINE. I don't really use Steam, but the word is that you can play nearly every Windows game out there with no problems on Linux. This is thanks to Proton, and the WINE compatibility layer, that translates Windows / DirectX API calls to Linux / Vulkan equivalents on the fly.

[RobertX]

I've found GhostBSD and tried to run it on a virtual machine. It wasn't that great.

However, if I can find a discount laptop, maybe I'll run GhostBSD on that.

I am very curious about it.

EDIT: By the way, anyone have the latest version of the OS that North Koreans use?

EDIT: And another note, I heard that Angelina Jolie uses FreeBSD.

[dueda]

dueda, how does macOS sound?

...I liked the speed, stability, ease, etc - if you're on English and don't play games.

...Maybe it's included now, I would not know.
>> Me neither, and considering prices and closed system-ness, I'll stay away from Apple.

When it comes to games on Macs, I think the situation has improved a lot...
>> For what I hear it's not close enough to my "torrent toaster" Win-PC.

...best system for that besides Windows is Linux... Steam...
>> Didn't try recently, and would really like to, but Steam's DRM and on-line-ness are a real boo/shoo factor here.

You see, I should give it a try. What worries me:

- Steam's defensive stance - DRM, authentication, even the ability to shut down digital stuff you purchased, who knows?
- Linux's limited hardware support and un-ease of use (for the Joe Dummy like me), plus the compatibility layer to run Windows apps.

Steam is elegant and very simple yet it works, Valve could make the next "volksystem" and way better than Google's, but avoids conflict with the big players. 
Dog don't east dog, but they all share shit. Could they partner with some TV and phone makers, maybe a cheap yet reasonably good as TCL...

Also, a lot of Steam's catalogue is available on "liberated", DRM-neutered and easily downloadable for free, without the need to use SteamOS itself.

[RobertX]

I won't touch Steam with a a long stick like a dead squirrel.

Even for games, I just use games where Steam is dissected and weeded out.

I think GOG is a good platform for computer games. I trust them more than I trust Steam even having never bought from them.

EDIT: Now, I am for open source development, but this is worrying:




Make sure your GNU/Linux distro has xz-utils before 5.61.

Don't type the xz -V command, check using your package manager for your distribution.

And that guy kind of looks like Arnold Schwarzenegger.

[dueda]

I won't touch Steam with a long stick...
I think GOG is a good platform for computer games...

this is worrying: (Linux backdoor)

I like Steam concept, but never had anything to do with them - except trying some games for free. But as I said, DRM, closed ecosystem, telemetry... not comfy with that.

Don't like the almost bare-bones GOG site but the service is very good. It's as simple as it gets, no hassle no fuss thing; actually easier than dealing with torrents. Only problem is they deal mostly on games long after release, because the big dogs get the cherry of the cake, exclusive contracts with big profits, first. They tried to change that and for some time were doing good, got some games from smaller but still relevant studios, but seems like it didn't catch on. A few years since my last visit to them.

So you opened your mind and put on the tinfoil hat, RX? The back doors are around since ever, be it in Linux kernel or the apps (like SQL databases, network utilities, you name it).
There's always a catch, a crack in everything. That's how the light comes in. Or the dark, depending on who's chanting the spell.

[RobertX]

What happened was that a maintainer was burnt out of being overworked and gave up the project to another maintainer who gained a lot of trust and this maintainer fucked up the system.

[ill88eagle]

Nice teeth on that guy. I hope he gets plenty likes for reading what other people posted. The main point here is what the xkcd image illustrates:


Now this whole story boils down to someone using sockpuppetry for well planned out malicious purposes of taking over that one weak point whereby all systems depending on that compression algortihm will be compromised. If you are less ressourceful you might be inclined to post tar balls on a pirate forum naming them linux.tar.bz or whatever

The lesson here is that believing in the want of good for everybody to be stronger than the want for own profit .... its a lie. Enjoy your cake