Get Brexit Done.

[Executive]

Nobody has fooled the British people, the British people know what they want this Brexit thing has been going on for ages now.  The British people just vote for what they want to vote for and that's that really.  Boris is quite a popular guy and there's no denying that so it's not a surprise he won or his party won so to speak.  It was no surprise to me at all that the Conservatives won the election 2019.

There is a lot of remainers around but at the end of the day it was a democracy and that's all that's important really.  The most popular party won, if Brexit is what people wanted back in 2016 then it's what they deserve.  If they don't get Brexit and get something else then it's a whole different story.

The Labour party lost lots and lots of seats, even in places you would have never even imagined.  I don't personally think that anybody was fooled here.  There's people all over youtube and places like that who know exactly what's been going on with this country and they have been voicing their opinions now for a very long time.

They were fooled into thinking that Jeremy Corbyn is an anti-semite ! Just because the opposing party can twist something you say to fit their own narrative, doesn't make it true.

Johnson probably won not because of his policies , but his personality. That didn't hurt Donald Trump here, because you have to admit as terrible a businessman, person, and president that he is, at least he has charisma in abundance. The man was a TV personality and reality show host for many years. He was -- and is -- completely unqualified to get elected. Now he's been impeached for only a fraction of his crimes and Constitutional violations. A lot of us want to see the House continue on with further impeachments, as justice must be served!

[RodneyYouPlonker]

The real reason why Corbyn didn't win the vote was because he didn't honour the people's vote.  If he had gone with what the people said he could have stood a better chance.  That's all it was about really, everything else was irrelevant.

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Surely though the reason why Trump has been in office like he has is because the people of the United States all backed him.  He was voted in by the people.  I know I don't know much about American politics and I've only spent in total time there in my whole life about 2 weeks, so I don't really know all that much about it and how things are run.  I'm not from America and I've never really spent any time there much in my life.  I understand though that the country is a Democracy just like the UK and if the people want to back somebody then surely the majority are the ones who get to decide.

I know this thread really is supposed to be about Brexit but Brexit is quite a big subject and it certainly has a lot to do with Trading with countries like the USA.  It's obvious that things haven't gone very well in regards to the EU and Britain, it's looking like this Brexit decision will happen now there's no question about it and Boris seems to be the man.  I'm not sure what's going to happen either with the USA, what will happen to Trump.  Maybe the reason why the people wanted him in was because they wanted change and they were fed up with how things were.  Maybe there has been a lot of problems that have bothered people now for years that they wanted something to be done about these problems.  Maybe they believed that Trump was the man to make those changes.  If that's what the public wanted then I can understand that but it just seems how everybody just want to drive Trump out so they can re-elect another Democratic government again and have their country run that way.  Really it is up to the people and if people still want a republican government in then that's what they will choose.  If that's not right then please tell me why because that's how I understand it considering I've never really spent any time in the USA and probably never will much?

[Executive]

Surely though the reason why Trump has been in office like he has is because the people of the United States all backed him.  He was voted in by the people.  I know I don't know much about American politics I understand though that the country is a Democracy just like the UK and if the people want to back somebody then surely the majority are the ones who get to decide.

I don't know about how elections are determined in the UK, but here in the U.S., I can tell you that in the 2016 election Donald Trump got about 63 million votes. His opponent Hillary Clinton 66 million. So the people wanted her over him. I live in California, one of the "blue" states that Clinton won overwhelmingly. Since I didn't like her policies either, I didn't vote for either of them. I went third-party that year, something I had never done before.....and probably won't do again.

Trump won via our sham known as the Electoral College, in which politicians representing each state get to pick the President. With 270 electoral votes, Trump got 304 to Clinton's 236. In terms of popular votes in the 3 mid-western states that gave Trump a win that way equated to a 70,000 vote edge over Hillary.

So the American people chose Hillary Clinton, and if the Electoral College would be abolished ( something that Donald Trump himself advocated for in 2012, when Obama was re-elected ) , only then would the voting process be legitimate....

[RodneyYouPlonker]

Well to be honest, when it came to the last Election in the UK, I only voted for Conservative because I wanted them to deliver Brexit, I voted for Brexit and I would have normally voted for Labour I would have thought.  I just didn't want to see Brexit fall through especially how so many people all voted for it.  I wouldn't normally vote Conservative but in this situation I did.  I have voted before for Labour and I was happy doing that but this time just gone I thought about all the people who believed we should leave the EU, it seemed like the right thing to do.  I'm not sure what I'd vote for in the future, I might vote the other way who knows.  Things in the UK have got really bad I would say, it's been a bit of a bumpy ride for a while now.  Maybe if Corbyn had got the people more on his side he would have stood a better chance but it was people in his party who didn't want to have Brexit so he had no choice he had to go with what his party members all wanted so really it was never meant to be.