Does VIP mean you can get away with anything?
#21
(Feb 16, 2018, 11:52 am)dueda Wrote: So it is a "out of possible control due torrent system nature" situation ?

Everything I've uploaded TPB I uploaded because I wanted to share it with as many people as possible. If someone reuploads my torrent to another site, great. More people will have it.  I'm not here to post scammy image host links to make money. Apparently OP is.
#22
Why not just nuke the torrents with spam links VIP or not?
#23
(Feb 16, 2018, 13:26 pm)ill88eagle Wrote: Why not just nuke the torrents with spam links VIP or not?

My guess is that it's a judgement call. Some image hosts are legit and some aren't. If there are an infinite number of them how are staff supposed to tell good actors from bad? If they get out of hand the domain is banned from torrent descriptions. At least that's my understanding. The OP is bitching and moaning about someone uploading his torrents to TPB when he only wanted them on 1337x or whatever and he wants the image host money for himself.
#24
(Feb 16, 2018, 12:55 pm)politux Wrote: Everything I've uploaded TPB I uploaded because I wanted to share it with as many people as possible. If someone reuploads my torrent to another site, great. More people will have it.  I'm not here to post scammy image host links to make money. Apparently OP is.

Ok, thanks for your good points. I see it clearly now.
That's why I never profit from my small time piracy and try to be original. Sounds like you too, so we're in the same page about it.

Just I don't have any problem with people making some money if scams and hacks are not involved.
I understand we're talking about piracy, not just copyright revolution, free copy Oz world. Real life is never simple.

(Feb 16, 2018, 13:26 pm)ill88eagle Wrote: Why not just nuke the torrents with spam links VIP or not?

First define criteria - What is harmful and TPB should deny? Then comes the technical and operational matters. And what will other services do? Each case is a case.
I agree spam is irritating and some uploaders include harmful links, but users report them and TPB already seek and removes.

Anyway, those uploaders will swap index services and it is out of TPB's hands. And TPB won't aggregate reviews, image host, IM, etc just to avoid external links.

Track the sources and rate uploaders based on their seeding capacity? Technically difficult, if possible; seed rate was alike, and abandoned. Can be dicey.
Best left to the crew to decide, even if for they control TPB. Some reuploads are better than the originals or even necessary.

In the end, we may be discussing for nothing, "fugazzi".
#25
Wow you people are stupid.

People steal movies, songs, etc. and put them on TPB or wherever as torrents.

If someone else steals their uploads, who gives a shit?

Think about it for one minute.

Idoits.
#26
(Feb 17, 2018, 10:12 am)joew771 Wrote: Wow you people are stupid.

People steal movies, songs, etc. and put them on TPB or wherever as torrents.

If someone else steals their uploads, who gives a shit?

Think about it for one minute.

Idoits.

Maybe someone else is the idoit.

People who steal uploads are just hurting the ones that create torrents trying to make money. Why go through the effort of stealing a movie if my torrent is going to get stolen. Why keep paying for a server if I'm not making any profit.

I must say it would definitely be hard to enforce something like that
#27
When I see torrents by makintos13 and its something I am looking for, I usually download his. If he is making money off me, then he is doing it the hard way. Perhaps someday he will ask me for a donation, I guess.

His torrents have always been clean, seeded, and properly named.
#28
(Feb 17, 2018, 10:12 am)joew771 Wrote: Wow you people are stupid.
People steal movies, songs, etc. and put them on TPB or wherever as torrents.
If someone else steals their uploads, who gives a shit?
Think about it for one minute.
Idoits.

I understand your logic but there is another: Some people steal to give (share) while others just for personal benefit. Even if that will make sharing even harder.
Freedom is one thing. But even under total anarchy there still room for moral and justice, or expectation and hope.

Being more pragmatic, the ones offended can just add a notice (like in the installer if appz or a shortie if video):
Download this from XXX only or you'll be helping bad people who just hurt the sharing system and push you scammy ads!

(Feb 17, 2018, 13:26 pm)hypno-potamous Wrote: When I see torrents by makintos13 and its something I am looking for, I usually download his.  If he is making money off me, then he is doing it the hard way.  Perhaps someday he will ask me for a donation, I guess.

His torrents have always been clean, seeded, and properly named.

Mostly. I've seen many trusted uploaders I follow for years having some low tides or just eventual slips. Some nasty stuff here and there.
Being careful lately, the mining botnet thing was a fever last year.
#29
I guess what they are saying is that regardless of any personal beliefs, people can technically do what they want.

I can't agree with charging for something pirated and that I got for free, but that doesn't mean others disagree with me.

Hey , the world is a bitch and for some they need to make as much money as they can to support themselves. If they feel they need to get paid, whatever.

What I vehemently disagree with is assholes uploading virus loaded shit without warning just for vicious reasons... I've yet to encounter that myself, though.
#30
(Feb 17, 2018, 14:06 pm)LZA Wrote: I guess what they are saying is that regardless of any personal beliefs, people can technically do what they want.

I can't agree with charging for something pirated and that I got for free, but that doesn't mean others disagree with me.

Hey , the world is a bitch and for some they need to make as much money as they can to support themselves.  If they feel they need to get paid, whatever.

What I vehemently disagree with is assholes uploading virus loaded shit without warning just for vicious reasons... I've yet to encounter that myself, though.

The world is a hitch and lemme slap ma beach...
No infections? Lucky you. Don't download many games or has been very careful with sources.
Keep it up!


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